[1.3.1 - 1.12.x] Outer Planets Mod [v2.2.11] [31st Aug 2024]

[Quoniam Kerman]

Turns out I don't know why my 1.9.1 install was an 1.9.0 one an I don't know how since I copied the 1.9.1 just before it went to 1.10...  Nevermind, I'll just make a 1.10.1 copy with Bleeding Edge and be done with it.

[Me.hasOwnProperty isHappy]

Couple of questions:

* Is it feasible to make surface animations for the gas giants (just like Jool) and use surface shader? Or Squad used something that cannot be reproduced? No pushing or rushing, just curious if it could be done one day.

* One can change parameters of the bodies by making changes to the Body_name.cfg file. Unfortunately, only OPM bodies (and Eeloo) can be affected this way and in addition the amount of parameters there makes me panic.

To learn how to get round this limitation and change, for example, Jool's radius and orbit, I've created a jool.cfg by making intuitive surgery to the Eeloo's copy.

So the question itself, what is the minimum structure of the such file to be sure that it will make desired changed and won't break the game?

 

This is what I ended up with. Game works, Jool swallowed some of the moons and got knocked out to the outer edge of the system. But I am still not sure if I need debug, cache, removePQS, and many others basically because don't know what they do. I am aware about Sigma, but you have to do the same thing and moreover it doesn't work right now, throwing four thousand errors.

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@Kopernicus:FOR[OPM]
{
	%Body[Jool]
	{
		Debug
		{
			exportMesh = true
			update = true
		}
		cacheFile = OPM/Cache/Jool.bin
		%Template
		{
		%name = Jool
		removePQSMods = VertexHeightNoiseVertHeight, LandControl
		}
		%Properties
		{
		description = #LOC_OPM_Planets_Jool_description
		radius = 70000000        
			
		}
		%Orbit
		{
		%referenceBody = Sun
		semiMajorAxis = 780000000000
		inclination = 2.3
		eccentricity = 0.0034
		longitudeOfAscendingNode = 55
		}
	}
}

 

 

Edited November 17, 2020 by Me.hasOwnProperty isHappy

[Minmus Taster]

  On 11/17/2020 at 8:57 PM, Me.hasOwnProperty isHappy said:

* Is it feasible to make surface animations for the gas giants (just like Jool) and use surface shader? Or Squad used something that cannot be reproduced? No pushing or rushing, just curious if it could be done one day.

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@Kopernicus:FOR[OPM]
{
	%Body[Jool]
	{
		Debug
		{
			exportMesh = true
			update = true
		}
		cacheFile = OPM/Cache/Jool.bin
		%Template
		{
		%name = Jool
		removePQSMods = VertexHeightNoiseVertHeight, LandControl
		}
		%Properties
		{
		description = #LOC_OPM_Planets_Jool_description
		radius = 70000000        
			
		}
		%Orbit
		{
		%referenceBody = Sun
		semiMajorAxis = 780000000000
		inclination = 2.3
		eccentricity = 0.0034
		longitudeOfAscendingNode = 55
		}
	}
}

 

 

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OMG YES!!!

What a good idea!

[Poodmund]

The Vanilla Gas Giant shader cannot be utilised by Kopernicus at this time.

[Fundati]

  On 11/11/2020 at 5:51 PM, Poodmund said:

Sure. I can leverage Gamelinx's implementation for the stock planets and use those textures to apply to the OPM bodies where appropriate so that performance/RAM usage shouldn't take too much of a hit.

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I'm not much of a coder, much less a modder (this is my first journey into developing a KSP mod) but I've been playing around with Parallax configs and the included displacement maps and have come up with this:
Images of Slate using Laythe's textures

 

It's a pretty simple system, the core Parallax mod does most of the work. Let me know if you want me to stop, I was just experimenting to see what works.

In terms of GPU/RAM usage, didn't see any difference from the rest of the planets in Parallax.

 

 

[Poodmund]

  On 11/25/2020 at 9:44 PM, Fundati said:

I'm not much of a coder, much less a modder (this is my first journey into developing a KSP mod) but I've been playing around with Parallax configs and the included displacement maps and have come up with this:
Images of Slate using Laythe's textures

 

It's a pretty simple system, the core Parallax mod does most of the work. Let me know if you want me to stop, I was just experimenting to see what works.

In terms of GPU/RAM usage, didn't see any difference from the rest of the planets in Parallax.

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Looking good! Experiment away!

[Drupegod02]

Is there a way i can remove the planets past sarnus? I tried adding this to beyond home and the light doesnt go past sarnus.

[OhioBob]

  On 11/29/2020 at 9:42 PM, Drupegod02 said:

Is there a way i can remove the planets past sarnus? I tried adding this to beyond home and the light doesnt go past sarnus.

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You can add a patch to delete them.  This ought to do it...

@Kopernicus:AFTER[OPM]
{
	!Body[Urlum] {}
	!Body[Polta] {}
	!Body[Priax] {}
	!Body[Wal] {}
	!Body[Tal] {}
	!Body[Neidon] {}
	!Body[Thatmo] {}
	!Body[Nissee] {}
	!Body[Plock] {}
	!Body[Karen] {}
}

It's also possible to change the light so that it reaches farther.

[Drupegod02]

  On 11/29/2020 at 10:55 PM, OhioBob said:

@Kopernicus:AFTER[OPM] { !Body[Urlum] {} !Body[Polta] {} !Body[Priax] {} !Body[Wal] {} !Body[Tal] {} !Body[Neidon] {} !Body[Thatmo] {} !Body[Nissee] {} !Body[Plock] {} !Body[Karen] {} }

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Where do i put that?

[hemeac]

  On 11/30/2020 at 11:07 PM, Drupegod02 said:

Where do i put that?

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@Drupegod02, You add it to a text file with a .cfg extension and can place it any folder within the GameData folder such as a personal patches.

[Souptime]

I think it would be cool if urlum was on its side like uranus, and maybe sarnus has hexagonal aurora if you have EVE/poods visual overhaul

[Poodmund]

  On 12/19/2020 at 4:38 PM, Souptime said:

I think it would be cool if urlum was on its side like uranus

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The problem with this is that the moons would also have to be inclined to match Urlum's axial tilt somewhat... but they would rotate relative to the Sun's ecliptic plane, it would be VERY odd.

  On 12/19/2020 at 4:38 PM, Souptime said:

... and maybe sarnus has hexagonal aurora if you have EVE/poods visual overhaul

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OPM-VO is very old now but it has a hexagonal storm at Sarnus' North Pole already.

[TomfooleryYT]

Does this mod give Tylo an atmosphere?

Tylo in my install has an atmosphere for some reason. I think this is the only mod I have that edits the planets/moons available in KSP. Therefore, I'm asking here first. Thnaks!

[Poodmund]

No, the only Vanilla body it affects is Eeloo, which is moves from outside Jool's orbit to become a moon of Sarnus.

[TomfooleryYT]

  On 12/19/2020 at 9:52 PM, Poodmund said:

No, the only Vanilla body it affects is Eeloo, which is moves from outside Jool's orbit to become a moon of Sarnus.

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that's what I thought. but why the hell does tylo have an atmosphere? is there any way to find out?

[Carni35]

  On 12/19/2020 at 9:13 PM, TomfooleryYT said:

Does this mod give Tylo an atmosphere?

Tylo in my install has an atmosphere for some reason. I think this is the only mod I have that edits the planets/moons available in KSP. Therefore, I'm asking here first. Thnaks!

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For what I know, the only mod that add atmosphere to Tylo is "realistic atmospheres".

[TomfooleryYT]

  On 12/19/2020 at 10:10 PM, Carni35 said:

For what I know, the only mod that add atmosphere to Tylo is "realistic atmospheres".

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AH So It is. Thank you!

[theJesuit]

  On 12/19/2020 at 10:10 PM, Carni35 said:

For what I know, the only mod that add atmosphere to Tylo is "realistic atmospheres".

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  On 12/19/2020 at 10:04 PM, TomfooleryYT said:

that's what I thought. but why the hell does tylo have an atmosphere? is there any way to find out?

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Also,  JNSQ gives Tylo an atmosphere.

[Poodmund]

  On 12/19/2020 at 10:35 PM, theJesuit said:

Also,  JNSQ gives Tylo an atmosphere.

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Yeah but that's completely unrelated to an install that would be running OPM.

[Murdabenne]

Do the 1.11 shader and texture changes for Bop, Vall and Tylo affect OPM (running KopBE of course)?

[coyotesfrontier]

@Poodmund have you ever thought about adding a steep texture to the bodies' surface? It would be very easy to do and look so much better.

[Starhelperdude]

1.11 seems to work, haven't encountered any problems

also what are the best visual mods to use in conjunction with opm?

[OhioBob]

  On 12/19/2020 at 10:21 PM, TomfooleryYT said:

AH So It is. Thank you!

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Realistic Atmospheres includes an optional config that deletes Tylo's atmosphere if you don't want it.

[TomfooleryYT]

  On 12/20/2020 at 11:58 PM, OhioBob said:

Realistic Atmospheres includes an optional config that deletes Tylo's atmosphere if you don't want it.

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ooh. any specific instructions on how to do that? is it jsut a check mark in the difficulty settings or is it a CFG file I need from somewhere?

[OhioBob]

  On 12/21/2020 at 12:38 AM, TomfooleryYT said:

ooh. any specific instructions on how to do that? is it jsut a check mark in the difficulty settings or is it a CFG file I need from somewhere?

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If you installed Realistic Atmospheres via CKAN, I don't know how it works.  So I recommend downloading the .zip file if you haven't already done so.  Inside the download you'll find a folder named "Optional", inside of which you'll find a file named DeleteTyloAtmo.cfg.  Just copy that file into the GameData/RealisticAtmospheres folder of your KSP installation.