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I meant which Titant III upper tank, regular or stretched (M) lol Which Titan III? Lol, regular or stretched? (Aka Titan 3M)

Which upper tank? There's two different ones.

N1 Fairing? UR-200?

Delta Double Barrel delivering Orbital Surveyor to the Mun polar orbit. Also, there's apparently two DB-Deltas. One with a "Stretched" upper storable stage (They say stretched, but it's also widened. It basically looks like a Delta K to me, just bigger, so I used Vega in place of a "Stretched" Delta K.) and a cryo version. Basically tanking the Delta III DCSS and putting it on top. I went with the storable version. Full album: Imgur: The magic of the Internet

Thanks!

I can't download the mod; the link is dead. And it says it is a part of Knes, but I don't see it, unless I'm just blind.

She flew fine. I think the titan tanks are supposed to be smaller than the titan I tanks, that's why she lasted until after SRB sep, if you are right. But thinking about it, if it was before, I can see them possibly hitting the SRBs amd causing damage. Enough to threaten the mission. Also, wow, that's almost a 1 to 1 shot lol. I can't believe how close they look. I mean, it's not exact and they're facing different directions, but still, wow.

Nope, still STS. Just has the Enterprise paint scheme, which has no "eye shadow" around the windows which her young sisters do. Buran also has the "Eye shadow". Not from this launch, but the Saturn Shuttle launch, but I used the same shuttle for both launches, just changed the lifting stages.

Oh? Okay. So I just copy the screen space reflections section of your config?

@JonnyOThan Any plans to add screen space reflections?

Can't do that, the two mods would conflict. TUFX even says don't run them at the same time. Dang. Thanks anyway.

Just a regular shuttle launch. Nothing to see here. Liftoff! What you mean there's something strange? Between the SRBs on the butt of the external tank? Oh that? That's just the Titan Booster. SRB sep and roll to upright to prepare for Titan Sep. Upright, ready for Titan Booster sep when it comes. Titan Booster sep. And for those wonder, yes, it does actually provide a good amount of TWR. At least 0.1 at launch and slowly increases as altitude increases. Also, that's with the shuttle empty. Craft based off this image:

Hmmm, I didn't consider Tweakscale being the culprit, though I guess it would be the first suspect lol. I have TweakScaleRescaled btw. And you're welcome!

@Rodger Same Node bug that happened to the LR91 engine happens to the tank. Titan II tank starts with Titan III's (Or IV's) node. And the Titan Interstage starts with no node at the top, even though it's defaulted to Titan II and not the Short. But the LR91 node bug is fixed. Btw, thanks for all your hard work. I don't think you get thanked enough. You hold BDB together IMO. I mean, if Cobalt and Zorg had to deal with all these bugs, the updates would be longer than they already are lol. Edit: And I don't know if this is a known bug or not, I'm assuming you know about it from the commits. But the Titan IV lower tank becomes unclickable when you switch to it. Seems like the collision box is missing. Edit 2: Also also, Idk if this is a typo or not, but the 1206F decoupler was called 1206E. Was that a typo or a joke? Because F comes after E? If it is a Typo, might I suggest NOT fixing it? For the memes

No, you're good! And thanks! I'm just voicing my opinion. This is true, you would get the same TWR with the RS-25s running, but they'd still have that torque issue. Only way around that is to put like a Shuttle C pod on the other side of the external tank that jettisons with the S-IC. The orbiter and pod can both have 2 RS-25 engines. There's also another problem with ground starting the RS-25s on Saturn Shuttle that I just thought of. How do you ROFI them? I mean, obviously you can have arms with the ROFIs that swing out of the way, but that would put the shuttle and crew safety in peril if one of them should get stuck. The S-IC's enlarged fins would strike it on lift off if the ROFI arm got stuck. I guess you could just stick them on the shuttle, have them on jettisonable pods. Yeah. I've seen 2 designs for Saturn Shuttle. One where the S-IC just has larger fins to help with the aerodynamic load the Shuttle would cause, and one where the S-IC was a flyback booster. With the latter, the tail/vertical stabilizer would be in the direct line of fire of the RS-25s. The fins on the former would get heating once the plumes expanded outward. On top of that, when the RS-25s gimballed to correct for the torque effect of the shuttle, the plume would eventually expand to impinge on the S-IC wall. Without some thermal protection system like the F-4 Phantom has on its tail, I see the exhaust melting the wall of the Saturn V and causing a LOVC event in the worst-case scenario. If they did add a thermal protection system to the S-IC, it would have to cover the entire side of the S-IC that the shuttle is on, or at minimum, the area that would experience aluminum melting temperatures. That would add weight, a LOT of weight. Which would reduce payload capability and TWR to boot. I honestly see no way to launch Saturn V except with RS-25s modified to be Air-started at T-10. A heat shield might still be required, but it would only have to last those 10 seconds, so it wouldn't have to be big or even cover most of the rocket, only the places that would experience the most heating.

The Rs-25s go pretty much straight when gimbaling to max range, so angling them straight isn't a solution. Also, they have to angle into the tank for the cot to go through the com. Otherwise it would torque towards the tank. Idk if 4 F-1s could do it. 5, yes. 4? Idk if it would have the thrust. Think the best solution is to air start the RS-25s right before stage sep. No torque for the F-1s to counter, plus it would allow Shuttle to carry heavier loads or lighter loads higher.

From what I understand, TUFX has everything KS3P has, but a little more. Like HDR support, etc.

That sounds more like a KSP error than a mod error to me. Might want to verify your files or reinstall KSP as well.

25 megabytes is actually kind of below average. 30 MB to 40 MB is around average. If you get more than 50, Might want to inspect your log file if you haven't been playing for literal hours. If it's 100+, something's wrong and null refs are usually repeating themselves to infinity.

There's no documentation on how they would launch Saturn Shuttle, afaik. The way I usually do it is the RS-25s are air-started 10 to 20 seconds before the F-1s cutout, like the Titan did with its SRBs and Main Engine. I just wasn't paying attention and missed T-10 and started then after F-1 cutout, lol. The F-1s are more than powerful enough to lift the Orbiter and whatever payload it may have, and the RS-25s would be putting unnecessary torque on the entire craft, because keep in mind, being so high up and angled, the RS-25s would want to pitch the whole craft "Downard" (Relative to the shuttle's orientation), and while the RS-25s would still gimbal to counteract this, being off center they would still produce a "Downard" pitch which the F-1s would then gimbal to counter act themselves, leaving little room for them to gimbal to steer the whole craft on the gravity turn. At least, that's how I see it. And the pour interstage would get crushed probably with two forces pinching it on one side. Also, @Pappystein You got anything in your vault about the Saturn Shuttle?

Thanks!

@Rodger An update on my node situation. It is indeed a bug with the B9 part switching. The node is defaulted to the "Compact" location for some reason. Switching to Compact and then back to 1.875 fixes the node's location to the correct one. Might be an issue with the part config? Anyway, "Booster time." - Koby Mcguire Kerman Saturn Shuttle as many of you probably guessed. Also, I finally decided to access Blackrack's patreon and get his volumetric clouds. I also got Deferred Rendering and Blackrack's TUFX profile. My screenshots should look a little better now. Full album: Imgur: The magic of the Internet

@benjee10 Actually, is there a TUFX profile similar to the KS3P profile you're using?

Could we get your KS3P profile?