[WIP][1.9.x-1.12.x] Scatterer-atmospheric scattering (0.0838 - 14/08/2022) Scattering improvements, in-game atmo generation and multi-sun support

[OrbitalManeuvers]

3 hours ago, blackrack said:

Does this break anything?

Fair question, but honestly I'm not sure how I'd know? If execution exits the current method immediately, I wouldn't really know what I'm missing. I am able to select presets. I am not able to persist any settings, though. The reason I see this every startup is because I have to go into scatterer settings each start and set them back to how I want them. But idk if that's potentially involved? 

[blackrack]

1 hour ago, OrbitalManeuvers said:

Fair question, but honestly I'm not sure how I'd know? If execution exits the current method immediately, I wouldn't really know what I'm missing. I am able to select presets. I am not able to persist any settings, though. The reason I see this every startup is because I have to go into scatterer settings each start and set them back to how I want them. But idk if that's potentially involved? 

If you weren't able to persist scatterer settings they'd revert between scene changes too, so I'm not sure what's going on there, maybe a random ModuleManager patch?

Anyway I personally wouldn't worry about a UI error if everything is working. If someone else wants to chime in though they're welcome.

Edited October 21, 2022 by blackrack

[Naeth Kerman]

On 9/28/2022 at 11:27 AM, blackrack said:

Probably TAA with a low framerate.

(I know this is really late, but) 

How do I fix this? If this is within scatter's boundaries. 

[Galactic Hitchiker]

KSP: 1.12.3.3173 Windows 64bit

Problem: NRE relating to EVE clouds

Mods installed:

Spoiler

Ablative-Airbrake (AblativeAirbrake 1.0.3)
AECS_Motion_Suppressor (air brake, engine, & control surface) (AECS-Motion-Suppressor 1.3.3.2)
AIES Aerospace (AIESAerospace-Unofficial 1.6.1-patched)
AIES Patches for the AIES Aerospace mod (AIES-Patches 0.0.1.3)
All Y'All (AllYAll 1:0.11.19.1)
Animated Decouplers (AnimatedDecouplers v1.5.0)
Antenna Patches from @TK421d for the AIES-Patches mod (AIES-TK421d 0.0.1.3)
ASET Agency (ASETAgency 1.0)
ASET Avionics (ASETAvionics 2.1)
ASET PRC (Portable Rover Components) (ASET-PRC 0.1.0.5)
ASET Props (ASETProps 1.5)
Avionics Systems (AvionicsSystems v1.3.5)
B9 Aerospace Procedural Wings - Fork (B9-PWings-Fork 3:0.43.0.11)
B9 Part Switch (B9PartSwitch v2.20.0)
Background Resources (BackgroundResources 1:v0.18.0.0)
Breaking Ground (BreakingGround-DLC 1.7.1)
BurstAtomicThrustModule (BurstAtomicThrust 0.1.0.3)
ClickThrough Blocker (ClickThroughBlocker 1:2.1.10.18)
Community Category Kit (CommunityCategoryKit v112.0.1)
Community Resource Pack (CommunityResourcePack v112.0.1)
Community Tech Tree (CommunityTechTree 1:3.4.4)
Connected Living Space (ConnectedLivingSpace v2.0.2.0)
Contract Configurator (ContractConfigurator v2.2.0.0)
Corvus CF (Corvus125mTwoKerbalPod 2:1.3.7)
DeepFreeze Continued... (DeepFreeze V0.31.0.0)
Distant Object Enhancement /L (DistantObject v2.1.1.9)
Distant Object Enhancement /L default config (DistantObject-default v2.1.1.9)
Docking Cam (DockingCamKURS 1.3.8.3)
Docking Port Alignment Indicator (DockingPortAlignmentIndicator 6.10.0.0)
Easy Vessel Switch (EVS) (EasyVesselSwitch 2.3)
Environmental Visual Enhancements Redux (EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements 3:1.11.7.1)
FASA (FASA 1:v7.2.7)
Ferram Aerospace Research Continued (FerramAerospaceResearchContinued 3:0.16.1.1)
Firespitter (Firespitter v7.17)
Firespitter Core (FirespitterCore v7.17)
Firespitter Resources config (FirespitterResourcesConfig v7.17)
Flight Manager for Reusable Stages (FMRS) Continued (FMRSContinued 1.2.9.3)
FuseBox Continued (FuseBoxContinued 0.1.17.3)
Harmony 2 (Harmony2 2.2.1.0)
Hot Spot (HotSpot 0.9.0)
JSI Advanced Transparent Pods (JSIAdvancedTransparentPods V0.1.24.0)
Kerbal Attachment System (KAS 1.12)
Kerbal Engineer Redux (KerbalEngineerRedux 1.1.9.0)
Kerbal Inventory System (KIS 1.29)
Kerbal Joint Reinforcement Continued (KerbalJointReinforcementContinued v3.6.1)
Kerbal Planetary Base Systems (KerbalPlanetaryBaseSystems v1.6.16)
Kerbal Reusability Expansion (SpaceXLegs 2.9.2)
Konstruction (Konstruction v112.0.1)
Kopernicus Planetary System Modifier (Kopernicus 2:release-1.12.1-139)
KSP AVC (KSP-AVC 1.4.1.9)
KSP Community Fixes (KSPCommunityFixes 1.23.0)
KSP Recall (KSP-Recall v0.3.0.3)
KSPBurst (KSPBurst v1.5.5.1)
KSPRC city lights (KSPRC-CityLights 0.7_PreRelease_3)
Making History (MakingHistory-DLC 1.12.1)
Malemute Rover (MalemuteRover v112.0.1)
MechJeb 2 (MechJeb2 2.14.2.0)
MOAR Station Science (MOARStationScience v2.6.1.3)
MoarKerbalsParts (MoarKerbalsParts 0.9.99.0)
ModularFlightIntegrator (ModularFlightIntegrator 1.2.10.0)
Module Manager (ModuleManager 4.2.2)
Orbital Utility Vehicle Updated (OrbitalTug 1.3.1.2)
Parallax (Parallax 2.0.4)
Parallax - Stock Planet Textures (Parallax-StockTextures 2.0.0)
Parallax - Stock Scatter Textures (Parallax-StockScatterTextures 2.0.1)
Patch Manager (PatchManager 0.0.17.6)
Physics Range Extender  (PhysicsRangeExtender 1.21.0)
PlanetShine (PlanetShine 0.2.6.6)
PlanetShine - Default configuration (PlanetShine-Config-Default 0.2.6.6)
Probe Control Room Recontrolled (ProbeControlRoomRecontrolled 1.2.4.2)
RasterPropMonitor (RasterPropMonitor 1:v0.31.9)
RasterPropMonitor Core (RasterPropMonitor-Core 1:v0.31.9)
RCS Build Aid (RCSBuildAid v1.0.6)
Real Plume (RealPlume 2:v13.3.2)
Real Plume - Stock Configs (RealPlume-StockConfigs v4.0.8)
RealChute Parachute Systems (RealChute v1.4.8.3)
RealHeat (RealHeat v5.1)
RecoveryController (RecoveryController 0.0.4.1)
Reentry Particle Effect Renewed (ReentryParticleEffect 1.9.1.1)
REPOSoftTech-Agencies (REPOSoftTech-Agencies V1.5.9.0)
ResearchBodies (ResearchBodies 2:V1.13.0)
ReStock (ReStock 1.4.3)
ReStock+ (ReStockPlus 1.4.3)
Reviva (Reviva 0.7.7)
Rocket Sound Enhancement (RocketSoundEnhancement 0.9.6)
Rocket Sound Enhancement - Default (RocketSoundEnhancement-Config-Default 1.2.4)
Scatterer (Scatterer 3:v0.0838)
Ship Manifest (ShipManifest 6.0.6.0)
SmokeScreen - Extended FX Plugin (SmokeScreen 2.8.14.0)
SpaceTux Library (SpaceTuxLibrary 0.0.8.4)
Spectra (Spectra v1.6.5)
Spectra EVE 64k Kerbin clouds (Spectra-EVE64kKerbinClouds 2.0)
Spectra EVE Minmus geysers (Spectra-EVEMinmusGeysers 1.6.5)
Spectra Scatterer (Spectra-Scatterer v1.6.5)
Spectra Scatterer for Minmus (Spectra-ScattererMinmus 1.6.5)
Spectra Scatterer Jool shine on Laythe (Spectra-ScattererJoolShineOnLaythe 1.6.5)
Spectra Scatterer vibrant sunsets (Spectra-ScattererVibrantSunsets 1.6.5)
Staged Animation (StagedAnimation v2.0)
StageRecovery (StageRecovery 1.9.5.7)
Stock Waterfall Effects (StockWaterfallEffects 0.7.0)
Surface Mounted Lights (surfacelights 1.19)
Tarsier Space Technology with Galaxies Continued... (TarsierSpaceTechnologyWithGalaxies 1:7.13)
TextureReplacer (TextureReplacer v4.5.3)
Textures Unlimited (TexturesUnlimited 1.5.10.25)
Through The Eyes of a Kerbal (ThroughTheEyesOfaKerbal 2.0.4.1)
Toolbar (Toolbar 1:1.8.0.8)
Toolbar Controller (ToolbarController 1:0.1.9.8)
Tracking Lights (TrackingLights 1:0.0.3)
Trajectories (Trajectories v2.4.3)
TweakScale - Rescale Everything! (TweakScale v2.4.6.16)
TweakScale Companion for ReStockPlus (TweakScaleCompanion-ReStockPlus v1.1.0.0)
TweakScale Redistributable (TweakScale-Redist v2.4.6.16)
USI Asteroid Recycling Technologies (USI-ART 1:v112.0.1)
USI Core (USI-Core v112.0.1)
USI Exploration Pack (USI-EXP v112.0.1)
USI Freight Transport Technologies (USI-FTT v112.0.1)
USI Kolonization Systems (MKS/OKS) (UKS 1:v112.0.1)
USI Life Support (USI-LS v112.0.1)
USI Tools (USITools v112.0.1)
VaporVent (VaporVent 1.1.12)
Waterfall - Restock (WaterfallRestock 0.2.3)
Waterfall Core (Waterfall 0.9.0)
WaypointManager (WaypointManager 2.8.3.4)
Zero MiniAVC (ZeroMiniAVC 1:1.1.2.4)

 

 

Reproduction steps:

Game would take a long time to load with scatterer initially, often crashing to desktop on load or just hanging so long it appeared to have crashed.
After several attempts the menu now loads consistently with no worries but KSC would CTD.
Then it would load KSC without issue but CTD after a few seconds or if moving the camera around too quickly,  then it could sit on KSC for a while but would CTD loading a rocket, then when going on EVA and so on.
Where we are now in that the game always CTDs between a few seconds or minutes.
The problem is not present when removing scatterer.
Every time the same NRE relating to EVE/Scatterer is thrown preceding a CTD.
 

Spoiler

[LOG 18:31:29.431] [Scatterer][Debug]  Mapping EVE volumetrics for planet: Kerbin
[LOG 18:31:29.431] [Scatterer][Debug] No volumetric cloud for layer on planet: Kerbin
[LOG 18:31:29.431] [Scatterer][Debug] No volumetric cloud for layer on planet: Kerbin
[LOG 18:31:29.432] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 18:31:29.432] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 18:31:29.432] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 18:31:29.432] [Scatterer][Debug]  Detected 1 EVE volumetric layers for planet: Kerbin

[LOG 19:58:49.347] [Scatterer][Debug]  Mapping EVE volumetrics for planet: Kerbin
[LOG 19:58:49.347] [Scatterer][Debug] No volumetric cloud for layer on planet: Kerbin
[LOG 19:58:49.347] [Scatterer][Debug] No volumetric cloud for layer on planet: Kerbin
[LOG 19:58:49.348] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 19:58:49.348] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 19:58:49.348] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0

Love your work, I consider it essential to the KSP experience, I apologise for the modsoup.

Log:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9sdtnb6uxrhowp/Player-prev.log?dl=0

[blackrack]

16 hours ago, Naeth Kerman said:

(I know this is really late, but) 

How do I fix this? If this is within scatter's boundaries. 

From KSC menu press the scatterer icon (blue orb) and find the setting for temporal antialiasing.

48 minutes ago, Galactic Hitchiker said:

KSP: 1.12.3.3173 Windows 64bit

Problem: NRE relating to EVE clouds

Mods installed:

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Ablative-Airbrake (AblativeAirbrake 1.0.3)
AECS_Motion_Suppressor (air brake, engine, & control surface) (AECS-Motion-Suppressor 1.3.3.2)
AIES Aerospace (AIESAerospace-Unofficial 1.6.1-patched)
AIES Patches for the AIES Aerospace mod (AIES-Patches 0.0.1.3)
All Y'All (AllYAll 1:0.11.19.1)
Animated Decouplers (AnimatedDecouplers v1.5.0)
Antenna Patches from @TK421d for the AIES-Patches mod (AIES-TK421d 0.0.1.3)
ASET Agency (ASETAgency 1.0)
ASET Avionics (ASETAvionics 2.1)
ASET PRC (Portable Rover Components) (ASET-PRC 0.1.0.5)
ASET Props (ASETProps 1.5)
Avionics Systems (AvionicsSystems v1.3.5)
B9 Aerospace Procedural Wings - Fork (B9-PWings-Fork 3:0.43.0.11)
B9 Part Switch (B9PartSwitch v2.20.0)
Background Resources (BackgroundResources 1:v0.18.0.0)
Breaking Ground (BreakingGround-DLC 1.7.1)
BurstAtomicThrustModule (BurstAtomicThrust 0.1.0.3)
ClickThrough Blocker (ClickThroughBlocker 1:2.1.10.18)
Community Category Kit (CommunityCategoryKit v112.0.1)
Community Resource Pack (CommunityResourcePack v112.0.1)
Community Tech Tree (CommunityTechTree 1:3.4.4)
Connected Living Space (ConnectedLivingSpace v2.0.2.0)
Contract Configurator (ContractConfigurator v2.2.0.0)
Corvus CF (Corvus125mTwoKerbalPod 2:1.3.7)
DeepFreeze Continued... (DeepFreeze V0.31.0.0)
Distant Object Enhancement /L (DistantObject v2.1.1.9)
Distant Object Enhancement /L default config (DistantObject-default v2.1.1.9)
Docking Cam (DockingCamKURS 1.3.8.3)
Docking Port Alignment Indicator (DockingPortAlignmentIndicator 6.10.0.0)
Easy Vessel Switch (EVS) (EasyVesselSwitch 2.3)
Environmental Visual Enhancements Redux (EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements 3:1.11.7.1)
FASA (FASA 1:v7.2.7)
Ferram Aerospace Research Continued (FerramAerospaceResearchContinued 3:0.16.1.1)
Firespitter (Firespitter v7.17)
Firespitter Core (FirespitterCore v7.17)
Firespitter Resources config (FirespitterResourcesConfig v7.17)
Flight Manager for Reusable Stages (FMRS) Continued (FMRSContinued 1.2.9.3)
FuseBox Continued (FuseBoxContinued 0.1.17.3)
Harmony 2 (Harmony2 2.2.1.0)
Hot Spot (HotSpot 0.9.0)
JSI Advanced Transparent Pods (JSIAdvancedTransparentPods V0.1.24.0)
Kerbal Attachment System (KAS 1.12)
Kerbal Engineer Redux (KerbalEngineerRedux 1.1.9.0)
Kerbal Inventory System (KIS 1.29)
Kerbal Joint Reinforcement Continued (KerbalJointReinforcementContinued v3.6.1)
Kerbal Planetary Base Systems (KerbalPlanetaryBaseSystems v1.6.16)
Kerbal Reusability Expansion (SpaceXLegs 2.9.2)
Konstruction (Konstruction v112.0.1)
Kopernicus Planetary System Modifier (Kopernicus 2:release-1.12.1-139)
KSP AVC (KSP-AVC 1.4.1.9)
KSP Community Fixes (KSPCommunityFixes 1.23.0)
KSP Recall (KSP-Recall v0.3.0.3)
KSPBurst (KSPBurst v1.5.5.1)
KSPRC city lights (KSPRC-CityLights 0.7_PreRelease_3)
Making History (MakingHistory-DLC 1.12.1)
Malemute Rover (MalemuteRover v112.0.1)
MechJeb 2 (MechJeb2 2.14.2.0)
MOAR Station Science (MOARStationScience v2.6.1.3)
MoarKerbalsParts (MoarKerbalsParts 0.9.99.0)
ModularFlightIntegrator (ModularFlightIntegrator 1.2.10.0)
Module Manager (ModuleManager 4.2.2)
Orbital Utility Vehicle Updated (OrbitalTug 1.3.1.2)
Parallax (Parallax 2.0.4)
Parallax - Stock Planet Textures (Parallax-StockTextures 2.0.0)
Parallax - Stock Scatter Textures (Parallax-StockScatterTextures 2.0.1)
Patch Manager (PatchManager 0.0.17.6)
Physics Range Extender  (PhysicsRangeExtender 1.21.0)
PlanetShine (PlanetShine 0.2.6.6)
PlanetShine - Default configuration (PlanetShine-Config-Default 0.2.6.6)
Probe Control Room Recontrolled (ProbeControlRoomRecontrolled 1.2.4.2)
RasterPropMonitor (RasterPropMonitor 1:v0.31.9)
RasterPropMonitor Core (RasterPropMonitor-Core 1:v0.31.9)
RCS Build Aid (RCSBuildAid v1.0.6)
Real Plume (RealPlume 2:v13.3.2)
Real Plume - Stock Configs (RealPlume-StockConfigs v4.0.8)
RealChute Parachute Systems (RealChute v1.4.8.3)
RealHeat (RealHeat v5.1)
RecoveryController (RecoveryController 0.0.4.1)
Reentry Particle Effect Renewed (ReentryParticleEffect 1.9.1.1)
REPOSoftTech-Agencies (REPOSoftTech-Agencies V1.5.9.0)
ResearchBodies (ResearchBodies 2:V1.13.0)
ReStock (ReStock 1.4.3)
ReStock+ (ReStockPlus 1.4.3)
Reviva (Reviva 0.7.7)
Rocket Sound Enhancement (RocketSoundEnhancement 0.9.6)
Rocket Sound Enhancement - Default (RocketSoundEnhancement-Config-Default 1.2.4)
Scatterer (Scatterer 3:v0.0838)
Ship Manifest (ShipManifest 6.0.6.0)
SmokeScreen - Extended FX Plugin (SmokeScreen 2.8.14.0)
SpaceTux Library (SpaceTuxLibrary 0.0.8.4)
Spectra (Spectra v1.6.5)
Spectra EVE 64k Kerbin clouds (Spectra-EVE64kKerbinClouds 2.0)
Spectra EVE Minmus geysers (Spectra-EVEMinmusGeysers 1.6.5)
Spectra Scatterer (Spectra-Scatterer v1.6.5)
Spectra Scatterer for Minmus (Spectra-ScattererMinmus 1.6.5)
Spectra Scatterer Jool shine on Laythe (Spectra-ScattererJoolShineOnLaythe 1.6.5)
Spectra Scatterer vibrant sunsets (Spectra-ScattererVibrantSunsets 1.6.5)
Staged Animation (StagedAnimation v2.0)
StageRecovery (StageRecovery 1.9.5.7)
Stock Waterfall Effects (StockWaterfallEffects 0.7.0)
Surface Mounted Lights (surfacelights 1.19)
Tarsier Space Technology with Galaxies Continued... (TarsierSpaceTechnologyWithGalaxies 1:7.13)
TextureReplacer (TextureReplacer v4.5.3)
Textures Unlimited (TexturesUnlimited 1.5.10.25)
Through The Eyes of a Kerbal (ThroughTheEyesOfaKerbal 2.0.4.1)
Toolbar (Toolbar 1:1.8.0.8)
Toolbar Controller (ToolbarController 1:0.1.9.8)
Tracking Lights (TrackingLights 1:0.0.3)
Trajectories (Trajectories v2.4.3)
TweakScale - Rescale Everything! (TweakScale v2.4.6.16)
TweakScale Companion for ReStockPlus (TweakScaleCompanion-ReStockPlus v1.1.0.0)
TweakScale Redistributable (TweakScale-Redist v2.4.6.16)
USI Asteroid Recycling Technologies (USI-ART 1:v112.0.1)
USI Core (USI-Core v112.0.1)
USI Exploration Pack (USI-EXP v112.0.1)
USI Freight Transport Technologies (USI-FTT v112.0.1)
USI Kolonization Systems (MKS/OKS) (UKS 1:v112.0.1)
USI Life Support (USI-LS v112.0.1)
USI Tools (USITools v112.0.1)
VaporVent (VaporVent 1.1.12)
Waterfall - Restock (WaterfallRestock 0.2.3)
Waterfall Core (Waterfall 0.9.0)
WaypointManager (WaypointManager 2.8.3.4)
Zero MiniAVC (ZeroMiniAVC 1:1.1.2.4)

 

 

Reproduction steps:

Game would take a long time to load with scatterer initially, often crashing to desktop on load or just hanging so long it appeared to have crashed.
After several attempts the menu now loads consistently with no worries but KSC would CTD.
Then it would load KSC without issue but CTD after a few seconds or if moving the camera around too quickly,  then it could sit on KSC for a while but would CTD loading a rocket, then when going on EVA and so on.
Where we are now in that the game always CTDs between a few seconds or minutes.
The problem is not present when removing scatterer.
Every time the same NRE relating to EVE/Scatterer is thrown preceding a CTD.
 

  Reveal hidden contents

[LOG 18:31:29.431] [Scatterer][Debug]  Mapping EVE volumetrics for planet: Kerbin
[LOG 18:31:29.431] [Scatterer][Debug] No volumetric cloud for layer on planet: Kerbin
[LOG 18:31:29.431] [Scatterer][Debug] No volumetric cloud for layer on planet: Kerbin
[LOG 18:31:29.432] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 18:31:29.432] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 18:31:29.432] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 18:31:29.432] [Scatterer][Debug]  Detected 1 EVE volumetric layers for planet: Kerbin

[LOG 19:58:49.347] [Scatterer][Debug]  Mapping EVE volumetrics for planet: Kerbin
[LOG 19:58:49.347] [Scatterer][Debug] No volumetric cloud for layer on planet: Kerbin
[LOG 19:58:49.347] [Scatterer][Debug] No volumetric cloud for layer on planet: Kerbin
[LOG 19:58:49.348] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 19:58:49.348] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0
[LOG 19:58:49.348] [Scatterer][Debug] Raymarched volumetric clouds error on planet: KerbinSystem.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at scatterer.EVEReflectionHandler.mapEVEVolumetrics (System.String celestialBodyName, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] EVEvolumetrics) [0x00156] in <684aa87c0d2345f8a9e4739403f4afff>:0

Love your work, I consider it essential to the KSP experience, I apologise for the modsoup.

Log:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9sdtnb6uxrhowp/Player-prev.log?dl=0

Thank you.

That's not an NRE though, it's a debug message as in nothing is thrown and scatterer handles it internally, there is no actual error breaking anything.

I'm not sure what's causing your problem but you might want to not run opengl on win 10 already, not only does it run supet bad and not support some features, it also heavily bloats the memory usage which may lead to crashes. Just run directx11, remove whatever commandline parameter you added  to force opengl.

[Galactic Hitchiker]

19 minutes ago, blackrack said:

From KSC menu press the scatterer icon (blue orb) and find the setting for temporal antialiasing.

Thank you.

That's not an NRE though, it's a debug message as in nothing is thrown and scatterer handles it internally, there is no actual error breaking anything.

I'm not sure what's causing your problem but you might want to not run opengl on win 10 already, not only does it run supet bad and not support some features, it also heavily bloats the memory usage which may lead to crashes. Just run directx11, remove whatever commandline parameter you added  to force opengl.

You beautiful person you.

No idea how many years that command line had been sitting in steam for causing untold issues.

Now it's all smooth, I've gained 40+ fps, texture replacers visor reflections work.

I wish your pillow to be cold on both sides you magnificent human being.

[dok_377]

Apparently this is still a thing in 0.0838, or it was somehow fixed only for newer versions of the game. 

[blackrack]

49 minutes ago, dok_377 said:

Apparently this is still a thing in 0.0838, or it was somehow fixed only for newer versions of the game. 

It was improved but still happens in some areas (to a lesser extent). You know you can disable the feature that causes it right?

[dok_377]

2 hours ago, blackrack said:

You know you can disable the feature that causes it right?

Yes, but it causes Kerbin to look boring. 

[blackrack]

16 hours ago, dok_377 said:

Yes, but it causes Kerbin to look boring. 

I looked for this issue today but it's not there

Does this happen all the time or randomly? Is Kopernicus installed?

Also your settings look a bit different.

Edited October 29, 2022 by blackrack

[dok_377]

56 minutes ago, blackrack said:

Does this happen all the time or randomly?

I'm not sure, I haven't been actively looking for it. But judging by the amount of times I actually saw it, it must happen quite often. I'm still on 1.10.1, if that helps. 

 

57 minutes ago, blackrack said:

Is Kopernicus installed?

No. 

 

57 minutes ago, blackrack said:

Also your settings look a bit different.

Not sure which settings you're talking about, I didn't upload anything apart from the screenshot above. 

[blackrack]

31 minutes ago, dok_377 said:

Not sure which settings you're talking about, I didn't upload anything apart from the screenshot above. 

The colors and shading on your planet don't look like mine, so I was wondering if you're using the stock configs or something else.

[dok_377]

7 minutes ago, blackrack said:

The colors and shading on your planet don't look like mine, so I was wondering if you're using the stock configs or something else.

I have a postprocessing mod, also I think Kerbin looks a little different with Scatterer in 1.10 when compared to 1.12 even with the same settings. 

[septemberWaves]

Scatterer seems to be causing Jool to be completely black with a white outline on a newly installed instance of JNSQ with Scatterer enabled. It took a while for me to figure out the cause, but it does seem to be due to Scatterer. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[stk2008]

Yeah what version of scatterer are you using? if it 8XX some thing thats your issue you must use 722 version with JNSQ

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by stk2008

[PrimeDirective96]

How to use the config tool to generate atmosphere? How do you bring up the tool?

[Antronomy]

(edit: it works now)

Says "Cannot complete the compressed (zipped) folders extraction wizard.

The compressed (zipped) folder is empty.
Before you can extract files, you must copy files to this compressed (zipped) folder.

To close this wizard, click Finish." whenever I try to extract it. Any fix? 

Edited November 21, 2022 by Antronomy
Made a post that was fixed before anyone replied to it, so I fixed it.

[adriangm44]

How can I get rid of the annoying shaky effect in map view? It also happens in flight mode but it can be corrected with a proper TUFX profile.

[Brigadier]

2 hours ago, adriangm44 said:

How can I get rid of the annoying shaky effect in map view? It also happens in flight mode but it can be corrected with a proper TUFX profile.

Isn't there an option for camera wobble in Settings > General?

Edited November 22, 2022 by Brigadier

[EndAllFilms]

Scatterer Ocean is not working
https://www.dropbox.com/s/84e1wsilr2mdtr5/KSP.log?dl=0

[kerbnub]

Hi. Might anyone have some insight into these artifacts in my JNSQ install? In low orbit or on the surface of airless bodies (tested on Mun and Minmus at least), I get this: https://i.imgur.com/X3Ywexz.mp4

In LKO or landed on Kerbin,  I get these weird afterimages most obvious when moving the camera quickly :  https://i.imgur.com/4TbGEOC.mp4

This began about halfway into my heavily modded JNSQ install.  I'm sorry as this will be annoyingly vague, but it began a few months ago, presumably after updating something, after which I got wrapped up in IRL stuff, so I don't remember the exact sequence of events. It *may* have begun after installing the new parallax 2.0 just to try it out, which involved updating Kopernicus and scatterer. After uninstalling, I've been stuck with this. 

Things I've tried:
-If I update scatterer beyond .0772 or uninstall scatterer, these disappear (but updating leads to other known issues with JNSQ).

-Removing/trying different versions of kopernicus and TUX make no difference

 

I'm hoping it might be obvious to someone before I commit to reinstalling 100+ mods and hoping nothing breaks in my main career save in the the move.

[blackrack]

On 11/25/2022 at 7:40 PM, EndAllFilms said:

Scatterer Ocean is not working
https://www.dropbox.com/s/84e1wsilr2mdtr5/KSP.log?dl=0

From your log:

[ERR 13:35:58.117] [Scatterer][Error] No config file found, check your install

[ERR 13:35:58.125] [Scatterer][Error] No planetsList file found, check your install

 

17 minutes ago, kerbnub said:

Hi. Might anyone have some insight into these artifacts in my JNSQ install? In low orbit or on the surface of airless bodies (tested on Mun and Minmus at least), I get this: https://i.imgur.com/X3Ywexz.mp4

In LKO or landed on Kerbin,  I get these weird afterimages most obvious when moving the camera quickly :  https://i.imgur.com/4TbGEOC.mp4

This began about halfway into my heavily modded JNSQ install.  I'm sorry as this will be annoyingly vague, but it began a few months ago, presumably after updating something, after which I got wrapped up in IRL stuff, so I don't remember the exact sequence of events. It *may* have begun after installing the new parallax 2.0 just to try it out, which involved updating Kopernicus and scatterer. After uninstalling, I've been stuck with this. 

Things I've tried:
-If I update scatterer beyond .0772 or uninstall scatterer, these disappear (but updating leads to other known issues with JNSQ).

or uninstall scatterer, these disappear (but updating leads to other known issues with JNSQ).

-Removing/trying different versions of kopernicus and TUX make no difference

 

I'm hoping it might be obvious to someone before I commit to reinstalling 100+ mods and hoping nothing breaks in my main career save in the the move.

You already found it

17 minutes ago, kerbnub said:

If I update scatterer beyond .0772 or uninstall scatterer, these disappear

Alternatively disable TAA on that version

Edited November 29, 2022 by blackrack

[kerbnub]

18 hours ago, blackrack said:

Alternatively disable TAA on that version

Thanks, disabling TAA works!

[kerbnub]

How does one get the reddish tinted terminators like here? Is it from scatterer, and if so, in the UI here or elsewhere? I tried changing all the values in the UI here and was able to affect some things, but not the terminator color.

JSNQ with the defaults

[FDAUT]

I am getting massive NRE spams when using Scatterer with OPM and AVP (all latest versions). Everything works just find as far as I can see but this spam seems to slow the game down. Any idea what is causing this or any fixes?  

Log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fcysra0m2nbz8vy/KSP.log?dl=0

 

 

Edited January 3, 2023 by FDAUT