septemberWaves Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 @Beccab How exactly is that thing even lifting off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, septemberWaves said: @Beccab How exactly is that thing even lifting off? Surprisingly it has a TWR of 1.20 while still keeping a but of fuel for the SIVB lol, the upper tank is almost empty while the Thor stage is full. It can reach an astonishing 12 kilometers before running out of fuel in the first stage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthfulGnome Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochies Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Damn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkpaz Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 small bug report, the Gemini Ferry RCS Control Block, doesn't produce a plume with waterfall installed, the angled version seems to work fine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaintedLion Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Is there any way to get the hydrogen fuel cells from the Gemini onto the new Apollo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grimmas Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Nice. The Kane series looks awesome as usual. And I'm not even a fan of Apollo or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceFace545 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: Soyuz and Progress looking fine as ever!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash1310 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) You know how there were ideas to put a Vanguard rocket on a Titan first stage and separately a Titan rocket on a Saturn first stage? Well why not combine it all and stack a full Vanguard, on a Titan first stage, on a Saturn I first stage (I really hope nobody even considered that in real life but wouldn't put it past the American space program to have thought of some close variation on that). Edited October 21, 2021 by Dash1310 I realized a full titan would be slightly too insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_only_spaceace Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Just wondering, is there plans for the saturn C-8/Nova, if not, maybe take that in mind as a suggestion Edited October 21, 2021 by The_only_spaceace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkpaz Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, The_only_spaceace said: Just wondering, is there plans for the saturn C-8 Nova, if not, maybe take that in mind as a suggestion Cobalt’s said no to it a couple of times, but it probably won’t be yo hard to slap something together using the engines from mod and Near Future Launch Vehicles 7m fuel tanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_only_spaceace Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, zakkpaz said: Cobalt’s said no to it a couple of times, but it probably won’t be yo hard to slap something together using the engines from mod and Near Future Launch Vehicles 7m fuel tanks i see, ill attempt it. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, The_only_spaceace said: Just wondering, is there plans for the saturn C-8 Nova, if not, maybe take that in mind as a suggestion I'm no saturn expert but thanks to the people in this thread I know that C-8 wasn't a NOVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derega16 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, Starhelperdude said: I'm no saturn expert but thanks to the people in this thread I know that C-8 wasn't a NOVA Well, it is if only switch out J-2 on the second stage with a pair of M-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_only_spaceace Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Starhelperdude said: I'm no saturn expert but thanks to the people in this thread I know that C-8 wasn't a NOVA what i meant to say was the saturn C-8/nova, as that was another name for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friznit Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) The Nova studies were just studies really. There were at least two - one pre-Saturn and another post-Saturn focussed on manned Mars missions. The Saturn C-series development concepts, that included C-8 for direct ascent to the moon, had nothing to do with either of the Nova studies, although the latter study considered Saturn-derived vehicles for obvious reasons given it was the biggest rocket around at the time. Unfortunately there's quite a lot of confusion and misinformation on the interwebs - most often due to images of the early pre-Saturn concepts being used to illustrate post-Saturn era Nova study and because the C-8 looks remarkably similar in profile to one of the later Nova concepts. Edited October 21, 2021 by Friznit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derega16 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Honestly, I want a mod for post Saturn Novas, but modular aerospike required by most of them is impossible to implement in KSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entr8899 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, The_only_spaceace said: what i meant to say was the saturn C-8/nova, as that was another name for it C8 isn't Nova, and they're never ever going to be in BDB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberro+ Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Since we're already introducing alternate history parts for Saturn, why not go ahead and implement Nova? It's always been chucked aside and rejected, but it wouldn't be a bad addition to an already great revamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceFace545 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, alberro+ said: Since we're already introducing alternate history parts for Saturn, why not go ahead and implement Nova? It's always been chucked aside and rejected, but it wouldn't be a bad addition to an already great revamp. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, alberro+ said: Since we're already introducing alternate history parts for Saturn, why not go ahead and implement Nova? It's always been chucked aside and rejected, but it wouldn't be a bad addition to an already great revamp. The problem with that is which Nova do you choose? The Saturn C-8 aka Nova? The fictional C-8 Nova? One of the 50 super large Novas? There's also the fact that Cobalt has said no many times. The Nova rocket family would need an entire update for themselves if we're being honest imo. And that's even if we could convince Cobalt or any of the others in the BDB team to take the project on. It probably just be best to kit bash mods together to make the Nova rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcking Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, alberro+ said: Since we're already introducing alternate history parts for Saturn, why not go ahead and implement Nova? It's always been chucked aside and rejected, but it wouldn't be a bad addition to an already great revamp. Post Saturn Novas are absolutely ludicrous launch vehicles, having nothing in common with Saturn and make Saturn look small (and this is just one of about 20 Novas depicted in a Martin Study, also please note that the RR means that both stages are recoverable). Edited October 21, 2021 by Jcking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GoldForest Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: Which one? There's many many Novas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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