Guest Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zorg said: While it would be hilarious, I'm not going to make every rocket Cobalt hates. I've never had much interest in Nova. It's a Saturn C-8, not a Nova. Regarding actual Nova, there's way too many designs to choose from. In fact, some are so hilariously Kerbal (particularly the multi-core designs) that @CobaltWolf might well take interest in those. Many early Nova proposals were multicoupled Saturn designs, presumably to get around the problem that killed the C-8 proposal, that is, the height of the factory room floor at Michoud. Most of these used Saturn-diameter parts (except the last one presented here, which would be made up out of clustered 2.5m tanks in KSP, in 8x symmetry!), and so would only require making a few multicouplers. Funnily enough, more than a few of them were inferior to Saturn V in terms of payload. Of course, there was also the C-8-like Nova with M-1s on second stage (that's the one people usually think about when they hear the name), and several really gigantic designs that looked like the Nexus with GCNRs replaced by some combination of Saturn engines. I have a sneaking suspicion that Nova project was to get disguised Kerbals at NASA busy making crazy designs so that humans could focus on building something sensible. Edited September 10, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeaKaka Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Does anyone know what the decoupler for the titan III transtage is? I can't seem to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gojira Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @KeaKaka It should just be BDB's standard 1.875 meter stack decoupler, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, KeaKaka said: Does anyone know what the decoupler for the titan III transtage is? I can't seem to find it. I use the titan 2 GLV big one for later variants, and the standart 1.875m one, with a little clipped into the shroud of the transtage for titan 3a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Starhelperdude said: I use the titan 2 GLV big one for later variants, and the standart 1.875m one, with a little clipped into the shroud of the transtage for titan 3a Same here. We really need a Transtage that is converted from "engine with built-in shroud" to now-BDB-standard "engine+interstage". LR-91s too. Edited September 10, 2020 by biohazard15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeaKaka Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) So... I decided that I would try to build the absolute monstrosity that is the Titan 3BAS2. And here it is in KSP. No payload today, just a test launch. Overall a hideous but easy to fly LV. Expect more monstrosities like this in future. Edited September 11, 2020 by KeaKaka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 hours ago, KeaKaka said: So... I decided that I would try to build the absolute monstrosity that is the Titan 3BAS2. And here it is in KSP. No payload today, just a test launch. Overall a hideous but easy to fly LV. Expect more monstrosities like this in future. actually this is in the unofficial official bdb wiki as a kerbal concept, I have buildt it too, but not flown it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberro+ Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 What's the worst Titan concept out there? I'm guessing it's like Gemini where they thought of every single possible use for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derega16 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, alberro+ said: What's the worst Titan concept out there? I'm guessing it's like Gemini where they thought of every single possible use for it. Well SRBX use titan upperstage so it might count as both worst shuttle delivered and titan delivered concept at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, derega16 said: Well SRBX use titan upperstage so it might count as both worst shuttle delivered and titan delivered concept at the same time "Well SRBX use titan upperstage so it might count as both worst best shuttle delivered and titan delivered concept at the same time" Fixed that for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberro+ Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Zorg said: "Well SRBX use titan upperstage so it might count as both worst best shuttle delivered and titan delivered concept at the same time" Fixed that for you If this forum had a downvote button, i'd send you straight to hell. Spoiler ngl it does sound extremely cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, alberro+ said: If this forum had a downvote button, i'd send you straight to hell. Cool down bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDSlice Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, derega16 said: Well SRBX use titan upperstage so it might count as both worst shuttle delivered and titan delivered concept at the same time Oh my gosh what is this unholy abomination??? Also, what the heck is that thing on page 8? I suppose one advantage of SRBX would be that the first stage boosters should be refurbishable, although I seem to remember that refurbishing Shuttle SRBs wasn't very cost effective or fast. Edited September 11, 2020 by CDSlice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CDSlice said: Oh my gosh what is this unholy abomination??? Also, what the heck is that thing on page 8? I suppose one advantage if SRBX would be that the first stage boosters should be refurbishable, although I seem to remember that refurbishing Shuttle SRBs wasn't very cost effective or fast, Let it henceforth be known as "disgusting shuttle-c" Also, are they sending crew to saturn on a CENTAUR? Edited September 11, 2020 by Clamp-o-Tron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrovich Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: "disgusting shuttle-c" Honestly, all SDLV's are inherently a little gross. In my opinion, the shuttle-c was the least disgusting (at least the version with the recoverable engine pod) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberro+ Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, Petrovich said: Honestly, all SDLV's are inherently a little gross. In my opinion, the shuttle-c was the least disgusting (at least the version with the recoverable engine pod) Shuttle C is pretty cool, even if it wasn't the most efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Petrovich said: Honestly, all SDLV's are inherently a little gross. In my opinion, the shuttle-c was the least disgusting (at least the version with the recoverable engine pod) Yeah expendable ssmes are a terrible idea. I would be very much on board with SLS if there wasn’t so much contractor waste and if it used RS-68s instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: Yeah expendable ssmes are a terrible idea. I would be very much on board with SLS if there wasn’t so much contractor waste and if it used RS-68s instead. aren't 3 RS-68 a little bit to strong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranceaddicT Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: I would be very much on board with SLS if there wasn’t so much contractor waste and if it used RS-68s instead. Yeah, about that ... Charlie Bolden, four-time astronaut, says, "SLS will go away" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, Starhelperdude said: aren't 3 RS-68 a little bit to strong? 3 RS-68s would be just about right, actually, given that they are ~1.3x more powerful in vac than an ssme. About the same thrust, if not TWR, when compared to 4 SSMEs. The loss in Isp would be fairly significant, but 5-segment SRBs could make up for that loss, and an Artemis lander is still well within those mass limits. Just now, TranceaddicT said: Yeah, about that ... Charlie Bolden, four-time astronaut, says, "SLS will go away" Wait, really? We all knew it would go the way of the d(yno)s(oar)s, but having someone who used to be high up makes it sound exactly what it is, a project to occupy Boeing. Also, you should probably say "former nasa administrator", not "4-time astronaut". Although both would be aware of internal politics, it's actually the admin's job. To clarify, starship is much better than SLS. But I wouldn't have been so pessimistic towards the idea if it was meant to be sustainable. Because where do you go from SLS? With an expensive, complex, expendable design you were destined to only launch a handful of times a year at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: To clarify, starship is much better than SLS. But I wouldn't have been so pessimistic towards the idea if it was meant to be sustainable. Because where do you go from SLS? With an expensive, complex, expendable design you were destined to only launch a handful of times a year at most. Plus, at this point, it definitely will fly at least once. It'd be like cancelling the last 2 Apollo flights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, davidy12 said: Plus, at this point, it definitely will fly at least once. It'd be like cancelling the last 2 Apollo flights. About that... Those were cancelled. Congress got fed up and decided it liked Vietnam better. Spoiler Quick- I only have so much time, they’re coming for me! Take this, study it, learn it well! And when those people inevitably tell you it’s fake, remember they work for those 2-foot tall green elves with massive heads and bulging eyes! You have to learn about Kane 18! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: About that... Those were cancelled. Congress got fed up and decided it liked Vietnam better. Hide contents Quick- I only have so much time, they’re coming for me! Take this, study it, learn it well! And when those people inevitably tell you it’s fake, remember they work for those 2-foot tall green elves with massive heads and bulging eyes! You have to learn about Kane 18! LMAO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I've derailed this thread enough already, have some Muo-401 with Swan action: Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Do the SAF variants of the fairings work in 1.8.1? Am I meant to use the plugins for 1.8, or 1.10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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