alverro Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 6:59 PM, JoeSheridan said: You can use the Engine plate of the Atlas III / V Centaur III for that Expand True, but the two engine plate has a nicer look to it, a lot more detail with pipes and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 1:36 PM, Zorg said: Skylab science. (in addition to the ATM of course). All of these are separate parts. RCS All the core parts except the fairing are now modelled. edit: forgot an antenna on the ATM Expand Those Science Look Epic Can't Wait To Use Them On My NASA WB-57F Plane In Kerbal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog357 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I'm 100% that this is a PEBKAC error: I've been away for quite a while. I'm running the release version of BDB on 1.10, 2.5x stock system. Currently trying to launch Ranger 1 on an Atlas LV-3A. I get up to about mach 2-2.5 at around 10-12km and it just falls off it's tail and breaks up. Kinda like real NASA rockets did... So what am I doing wrong? I'm leaning over gracefully and I'm probably somewhere between 30 and 45 off vertical by the failure point. Mechjeb nor myself can keep the nose centered in the velocity vector at max Q. On 8/8/2021 at 1:09 AM, birdog357 said: I'm 100% that this is a PEBKAC error: I've been away for quite a while. I'm running the release version of BDB on 1.10, 2.5x stock system. Currently trying to launch Ranger 1 on an Atlas LV-3A. I get up to about mach 2-2.5 at around 10-12km and it just falls off it's tail and breaks up. Kinda like real NASA rockets did... So what am I doing wrong? I'm leaning over gracefully and I'm probably somewhere between 30 and 45 off vertical by the failure point. Mechjeb nor myself can keep the nose centered in the velocity vector at max Q. Expand Finally got past the danger point. But it was a close thing. I think I need to lower the booster auto jet G force to 3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) On 8/8/2021 at 1:09 AM, birdog357 said: I'm 100% that this is a PEBKAC error: I've been away for quite a while. I'm running the release version of BDB on 1.10, 2.5x stock system. Currently trying to launch Ranger 1 on an Atlas LV-3A. I get up to about mach 2-2.5 at around 10-12km and it just falls off it's tail and breaks up. Kinda like real NASA rockets did... So what am I doing wrong? I'm leaning over gracefully and I'm probably somewhere between 30 and 45 off vertical by the failure point. Mechjeb nor myself can keep the nose centered in the velocity vector at max Q. Expand 2.5x KSRSS here, zero problems with MJ (except when you input bad parameters, of course). Do you use PVG? Generally "light" Atlases (Able, Agena, Mercury, SRM uppers) fly quite well with its default "50/0.5" formula. As for booster skirt jettisoning - see here: Atlas · friznit/Unofficial-BDB-Wiki Wiki (github.com) Basically, you want to jettison the skirt as soon as core's TWR is bigger than 1. Edited August 8, 2021 by biohazard15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog357 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 1:51 AM, biohazard15 said: 2.5x KSRSS here, zero problems with MJ (except when you input bad parameters, of course). Do you use PVG? Generally "light" Atlases (Able, Agena, Mercury, SRM uppers) fly quite well with its default "50/0.5" formula. As for booster skirt jettisoning - see here: Atlas · friznit/Unofficial-BDB-Wiki Wiki (github.com) Basically, you want to jettison the skirt as soon as core's TWR is bigger than 1. Expand I have not unlocked any guidance other than smartASS at the moment. I kind of have to hand fly it using the Surface modes. I didn't have a problem with Mercury-Atlas. I think it's just the light upper stage with the fairing. It's just touchy to fly, as it should be. Unrelated note. This is the first time I've encountered BDB contracts. Most of them are locked. The ones that confuse me are Lithobraking, aim at another planet and miss. I have all the prereqs met, yet they won't let me agree to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediRangerkendor Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 12:53 PM, bjornadri said: hi guys, just wanted to report a bug i noticed with the latest version, as the telescope flap on the hermes pod opens automatically upon selecting it and there does not seem to be an option to close it in the right-click-menu Expand Was this ever fixed? Cause I just have it open right from the start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog357 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Just worked my way up to Gemini. Wow. Great models with great features. I can't wait to see if the Gusmobile flys as good as she looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VostokV5 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I want to change the value of a part's maxTemp. What does the "// =" mean? maxTemp = 2000 // = 2900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 1:45 PM, VostokV5 said: I want to change the value of a part's maxTemp. What does the "// =" mean? maxTemp = 2000 // = 2900 Expand Its a comment. Anything after a // will not count as part of the code in that line. Probably that was the old value and it was kept as reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VostokV5 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 2:05 PM, Zorg said: Its a comment. Anything after a // will not count as part of the code in that line. Probably that was the old value and it was kept as reference. Expand thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog357 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 The BDB contracts are confusing me. I want to do the one titled "Aim at another planet and miss". I can't accept bird because it says the pre-req may only have 6 offered/active BDB contracts at a time is unmet. I have 6 offered and none active. Even when I cheat and accept one and then using F12 I complete it, it now says that's met, but it's still not usable. I click off of it and come back and it's back to unmet. What gives? On 8/8/2021 at 1:43 PM, birdog357 said: Just worked my way up to Gemini. Wow. Great models with great features. I can't wait to see if the Gusmobile flys as good as she looks. Expand She does fly as good as she looks, although the RW torque is way too high. It's unusable by hand. I had to keep toggling it on and off because MJ can't use only RCS to aim and RW is too strong for hand flying. I do enjoy full manual docking looking out the left hand window. I don't even have SAS on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jso Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 7:02 AM, JediRangerkendor said: Was this ever fixed? Cause I just have it open right from the start... Expand The problem could not be duplicated. So it's probably a mod conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeaKaka Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 6:00 PM, birdog357 said: She does fly as good as she looks, although the RW torque is way too high. It's unusable by hand. I had to keep toggling it on and off because MJ can't use only RCS to aim and RW is too strong for hand flying. I do enjoy full manual docking looking out the left hand window. I don't even have SAS on. Expand Would recommend using Mandatory RCS, or just turning off the reaction wheels. Either works, and you can fly a full mission easily without the wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog357 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 6:57 PM, KeaKaka said: Would recommend using Mandatory RCS, or just turning off the reaction wheels. Either works, and you can fly a full mission easily without the wheels. Expand I normally don't use RW. But mechjeb drastically overshoots the mark and yo-yos, wasting fuel and time. That's an MJ problem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invaderchaos Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Been working on pioneer, found a couple proposals centered around a Saturn/Uranus atmosphere probe. Since I’m already doing a few pioneer proposal parts (specifically pioneer orbiter) it wouldn’t hurt to make a couple more. I did find a few other proposals that were very out there but those seem a little more ambitious and I will probably just stick with the atmosphere probe for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 7:32 PM, Invaderchaos said: Been working on pioneer, found a couple proposals centered around a Saturn/Uranus atmosphere probe. Since I’m already doing a few pioneer proposal parts (specifically pioneer orbiter) it wouldn’t hurt to make a couple more. I did find a few other proposals that were very out there but those seem a little more ambitious and I will probably just stick with the atmosphere probe for now. Expand If you haven't yet I suggest taking a look at this: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19750010215 And this: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19750012297 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 7:32 PM, Invaderchaos said: Been working on pioneer, found a couple proposals centered around a Saturn/Uranus atmosphere probe. Since I’m already doing a few pioneer proposal parts (specifically pioneer orbiter) it wouldn’t hurt to make a couple more. I did find a few other proposals that were very out there but those seem a little more ambitious and I will probably just stick with the atmosphere probe for now. Expand Every time I hear of ANOTHER scrapped concept for Uranus/Neptune I whimper a little. Anyways, very cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invaderchaos Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 8:09 PM, Minmus Taster said: Every time I hear of ANOTHER scrapped concept for Uranus/Neptune I whimper a little. Anyways, very cool! Expand Yea it’s quite interesting that the original proposal was for Uranus/Saturn and not Jupiter. If I recall correctly, when this mission was first proposed, scientists worried that the heat shield technology they had for such a project was not advanced enough to enter Jupiter’s atmosphere, and Uranus/Saturn was chosen because they would be less taxing on the heat shield. On 8/8/2021 at 7:59 PM, Beccab said: If you haven't yet I suggest taking a look at this: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19750010215 And this: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19750012297 Expand Thanks for the images! Thank god for NTRS, I got my hands on a few couple hundred page documents on these proposals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog357 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 6:00 PM, birdog357 said: The BDB contracts are confusing me. I want to do the one titled "Aim at another planet and miss". I can't accept bird because it says the pre-req may only have 6 offered/active BDB contracts at a time is unmet. I have 6 offered and none active. Even when I cheat and accept one and then using F12 I complete it, it now says that's met, but it's still not usable. I click off of it and come back and it's back to unmet. What gives? Expand Made some progress here. I accepted all 6 offered BDB contracts and then cheated them all to completion. Aim at the moon and miss then became available. As soon as I accepted, the contracts regened on me and now I have 5 offered and 1 accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 9:49 PM, birdog357 said: Made some progress here. I accepted all 6 offered BDB contracts and then cheated them all to completion. Aim at the moon and miss then became available. As soon as I accepted, the contracts regened on me and now I have 5 offered and 1 accepted. Expand Sorry the contracts were made by a kind community member, the main BDB team isnt too familiar with the system. If you have further problems it would be great if you could detail the bugs on the BDB Github issues page, and perhaps @Morphisor who made them might be able to have a look when they have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 7:32 PM, Invaderchaos said: Since I’m already doing a few pioneer proposal parts (specifically pioneer orbiter) it wouldn’t hurt to make a couple more. I did find a few other proposals that were very out there but those seem a little more ambitious and I will probably just stick with the atmosphere probe for now. Expand Awesome! I've just been offered contracts for atmosphere probes (KSRSS has its own contract pack), so I'll now wait for the proper tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) Some of the smaller skylab components textured and ready top left: S192 Multispectral scanner, S193 Microwave radiometer/altimeter middle: radial attachment port in 3 colours, RCS, ATM antenna, solar radio burst antenna, S191 IR spectrometer, S194 L barnd radiometer and proton spectrometer bottom: discone antenna Edited August 9, 2021 by Zorg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kass__XAP Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Nimbus just vibing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphisor Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 6:00 PM, birdog357 said: The BDB contracts are confusing me. I want to do the one titled "Aim at another planet and miss". I can't accept bird because it says the pre-req may only have 6 offered/active BDB contracts at a time is unmet. I have 6 offered and none active. Even when I cheat and accept one and then using F12 I complete it, it now says that's met, but it's still not usable. I click off of it and come back and it's back to unmet. What gives? She does fly as good as she looks, although the RW torque is way too high. It's unusable by hand. I had to keep toggling it on and off because MJ can't use only RCS to aim and RW is too strong for hand flying. I do enjoy full manual docking looking out the left hand window. I don't even have SAS on. Expand On 8/8/2021 at 9:49 PM, birdog357 said: Made some progress here. I accepted all 6 offered BDB contracts and then cheated them all to completion. Aim at the moon and miss then became available. As soon as I accepted, the contracts regened on me and now I have 5 offered and 1 accepted. Expand On 8/9/2021 at 4:42 AM, Zorg said: Sorry the contracts were made by a kind community member, the main BDB team isnt too familiar with the system. If you have further problems it would be great if you could detail the bugs on the BDB Github issues page, and perhaps @Morphisor who made them might be able to have a look when they have time. Expand As far as I can tell from your posts, @birdog357 you're running into a contract configurator limitation. What's happening is that I limited the amount of contracts BDB can offer at any one time, to prevent your mission control being spammed by them (there's 13 in total if memory serves). What happens next is down to the contract generation done by contract configurator, not the contracts themselves. Unfortunately this system sometimes just doesn't load in a specific contract even when conditions are met. I've done a lot of testing on this myself, and the only advice I can give you is, that if you REALLY want a specific mission, you're just gonna have to accept and decline missions until the generator rngesus smiles on you. Sometimes it helps fast-forwarding time a bunch of days. Sorry I can't be of more help. Contract configurator is a great addition to the game but has a bunch of limitations and oddities in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invaderchaos Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Some progress on the Pioneer Uranus Probe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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