KAL 9000 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Kuzzter said: Oh, it shouldn't be so bad. Certainly what I'm used to for a long-range ship that values high deltaV. Thought experiment: for a ship in the 1000t range, how much (stock) engine would you need to get a more acceptable TWR? I suppose 4x Kerbodyne Rhinos could do it, that'd bring it up to about 0.8, but with less than half the ISP of the nuclear engines. Intrepid has some margin, but not that much--we'd be out of fuel now with nothing left for capture. Sure, a less ambitious ship would do fine with chemical engines and a higher TWR, but that was never what this mission was about, was it? And, teasing... Woo hoo! Now I can make the pages. Note the intercept is actually a little ahead of schedule--NImzo estimated we'd reach Jool on Year 9 Day 110, and that periapsis is for 9-64. Of course, nothing's certain until the final correction burn. Still haven't decided exactly what track to plot on system entry, but I should probably visit Bop or Pol first so we can refuel. Tylo assist would certainly be in order, and fun to execute. Laythe or Jool aerobraking: not so much That's a really good question. But it contains at least one unwarranted assumption, and I'm not talking about SpongeBob. No, there's a character in SpongeBob that says "Evil" really funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceplaneAddict Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Just now, KAL 9000 said: No, there's a character in SpongeBob that says "Evil" really funny. Mermaid Man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 On 4/4/2016 at 8:07 PM, Kuzzter said: Hm. I've noticed that the users most known for their taglines are really more known for what they write above the tagline: Exhibit A: Exhibit B: Exhibit C: ...at least, I tend to notice these kinds of things Well, I almost missed that, and it made my day in the end! Also, ... one does one's best. Rune. In unrelated news, the comic is going great, interesting times ahead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kuzzter said: I think what @KAL 9000 was getting at was "how is it even possible that there exists this parallel world so similar to Kerbin, when no one from either planet knows of the other's existence?" Hopefully, if I ever do give an explanation, the readers will find it plausible. I'm sure it won't be as bad as the multiple alien parallel worlds encountered by the Enterprise, including at least one that duplicated all of Earth's history up to WWIII. The way I see it, the Kerbulians have been too busy with sectarian conflicts at home to look outwards, and the Kerbals haven't ever looked that way during the few chances they've had before. Until now, of ocurse. The Kerbulians discovered Kerbin first, and the only Kerbal who currently knows he's seen Kerbulus doubts his own sanity. But that won't matter in short order because I doubt the rest of Intrepid's crew will be able to ignore Kerbulus much longer. Whether they see it or not, there will be gravitational effects that their instruments will pick up, especially if they can hack the universe itself already Edited April 11, 2016 by Geschosskopf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 Now now, @Geschosskopf--you should know as well as anyone that all gravity effects end at a body's SOI. Everything else you said is spot on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Kuzzter said: Now now, @Geschosskopf--you should know as well as anyone that all gravity effects end at a body's SOI. Everything else you said is spot on though. Hoist by my own petard! (which is another French word, and quite vulgar at that, so I apologize in advance on both counts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Geschosskopf said: Hoist by my own petard! (which is another French word, and quite vulgar at that, so I apologize in advance on both counts). I thought it was related to gunpowder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Dman979 said: I thought it was related to gunpowder? Look up my favorite pastry, pets des nonnes Edited April 12, 2016 by Geschosskopf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyunchClick Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I am shocked. I would have never thought a professional soldier past or present would put up with inappropriate naming of their equipment or practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terwin Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 21 hours ago, Kuzzter said: Oh, it shouldn't be so bad. Certainly what I'm used to for a long-range ship that values high deltaV. Thought experiment: for a ship in the 1000t range, how much (stock) engine would you need to get a more acceptable TWR? I suppose 4x Kerbodyne Rhinos could do it, that'd bring it up to about 0.8, but with less than half the ISP of the nuclear engines. Intrepid has some margin, but not that much--we'd be out of fuel now with nothing left for capture. Sure, a less ambitious ship would do fine with chemical engines and a higher TWR, but that was never what this mission was about, was it? If you are trying to maximize dv should you not have burned off the heavier LFO fuel first?(ie use up your oxidizer in your kerbodynes as part of the ejection burn then go with the more efficient nuclear engines after burning off the relatively heavier fuel) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, Terwin said: If you are trying to maximize dv should you not have burned off the heavier LFO fuel first?(ie use up your oxidizer in your kerbodynes as part of the ejection burn then go with the more efficient nuclear engines after burning off the relatively heavier fuel) Absolutely correct--but if I ever run out of oxidant, I can't refuel! Qwammer and the Intrepid's ventral landing engines both require it. Also, while I allowed a 4-hour window in which to execute the ejection burn, I may have less time for capture. So I did indeed trade some dV for safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Starhawk Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) Uh-oh. It looks like Kenlie's really on the edge. His experience with writing fiction and hallucinating seeing through Kerbulan eyes has been about blurring the boundaries between fantasy and reality, but now they seem to be erased completely. What's worse is his last statement. That means nobody will be told until it's too late! Oh, noooooo! Happy Concerned Nervous Anxious Frightened Alarmed landings! Edited April 12, 2016 by Starhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkaboy Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Kenlie should try to disguise his obvious case of space madness by talking about cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Great update, Kuzzter! And a nice homage to Plan Kappa as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSquid Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Deddly said: Great update, Kuzzter! And a nice homage to Plan Kappa as well. Plot twist: Parkaboy is actually Kenlie! Or is it the other way around? Edited April 12, 2016 by RocketSquid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, RocketSquid said: Plot twist: Parkaboy is actually Kenlie! Or is it the other way around? I think we can rule that one out; @Parkaboy is a much better writer! And remember, yes this was a Kappa shoutout, but so was the whole crossover in which Looty Kernel Jeb Kerman of the Kerbfleet Air Service did indeed jump through an alien computer thingy and end up in another reality. He just doesn't remember it, nor does Kerbfleet Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingPete Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 This seemed appropriate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trios Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 That hurt to watch. What an awful smashup of two excellent episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplorerKlatt Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, Trios said: That hurt to watch. What an awful smashup of two excellent episodes. Agreed. And made entirely too long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceplaneAddict Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 For Kenlie to keep such a secret, he must have a LOT of *Determination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopHeavy11 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Just tell them. Kenlie should just tell them and try an radio the enemies to tell them they were headed to Jool, not Kerbulus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Kerman Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 4 hours ago, RocketSquid said: Plot twist: Parkaboy is actually Kenlie! Or is it the other way around? I think Martystu is Kenlie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Angel-125 said: I think Martystu is Kenlie... Well that's kind of the trope definer, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Zoom Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 "Because for the next hour, I can!" That's so Raven Jeb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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