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Triop

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4 minutes ago, DoctorDavinci said:

You forgot to add the pieces of the craft in question flying off in a satisfyingly destructive manner :wink:

"satisfyingly" he says . . . <_<

:lol:

It's more "satanistic" if you ask me.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Triop said:

"satisfyingly" he says . . . <_<

:lol:

It's more "satanistic" if you ask me.

 

 

Bah ... don't bring religion into this as this forum is a secular society

Might I suggest you look into what Satanism is as well as the rest of the world religions so you can understand fully the absurdness that each one of said religions is based on

Bronze age ideas in an advanced modern society :huh:

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6 minutes ago, DoctorDavinci said:

Bah ... don't bring religion into this as this forum is a secular society

Might I suggest you look into what Satanism is as well as the rest of the world religions so you can understand fully the absurdness that each one of said religions is based on

Bronze age ideas in an advanced modern society :huh:

don't bring religion ?

I fly here every day to pray, we all do, no ?

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4 minutes ago, SpannerMonkey(smce) said:

Hi, they come from the great big pile of stuff that goes under the heading of spanners unreleased/unfinished/nevertobereleased parts that I've made because I can :)

Oh ok. It just looks really well made, that's all. I think I've found a mod that kind of has the same features, Structural Pipes or something. 

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13 minutes ago, SpannerMonkey(smce) said:

Hi, they come from the great big pile of stuff that goes under the heading of spanners unreleased/unfinished/nevertobereleased parts that I've made because I can :)

And damn, some of those 'because I can' parts are the goods ... straight up :) 

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31 minutes ago, Benji13 said:

Oh ok. It just looks really well made, that's all. I think I've found a mod that kind of has the same features, Structural Pipes or something. 

Yeah you can certainly build your cage with it, but it's a different level of wizardry all together where that V12 is concerned. I've not seen it in action, but I've had a peek at a bit of the config... @SpannerMonkey(smce) takes no prisoners. Hey spanner, speaking of, any videos of that thing?

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Mine's all stock (apart from the headlights and rack lights. Those are B9 and Tweakscale).

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I think she's ready for the Rally. Tougher than heck.

EDIT: turns out this won't be the final design. I've reduced the fuel capacity (didn't need all that much) and tweaked the struts. She's down to 2.5 tonnes loaded.

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3 minutes ago, DrunkenKerbalnaut said:

Stock? You sure?

Well, apart from the headlights, racklights (B9, Tweakscale). Everything else is stock according to my copy of KSP.

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4 minutes ago, DrunkenKerbalnaut said:

I like the way you balanced your fuel cells. May steal that idea. Past half tank, mine takes nose dives over hills. 

Lift off the W key when you get air, or as you are in the air hit S to tip the chassis back a bit.

Also play with the Friction control on the tires. Max out the rear tires, put the front <> 1.8 and 2.3. That will take care of any oversteer and keep the chassis locked better to a heading,

BUT, we should take this to the discussion thread and not clutter up this one.

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9 minutes ago, GDJ said:

Lift off the W key when you get air, or as you are in the air hit S to tip the chassis back a bit.

Also play with the Friction control on the tires. Max out the rear tires, put the front <> 1.8 and 2.3. That will take care of any oversteer and keep the chassis locked better to a heading,

I leave the SAS modules to "SAS Only" so, as pilot, I can't make them effect body roll. Instead, they act as kinda sway bars. Mid-air, the two small units aren't quite strong enough to twist the 5-6 ton body when the fuel tank empties and causes imbalance. 

Friction: I lower the front to .5, and leave the two rear axles alone. Perfect for my style, but likely the root of my issues when climbing more than 20* off-camber. I can live with it. In a heavy climb (45* or more) I'll set the rearmost axle friction to 2.5. 

I hardly ever play with spring-rate or damping, unless the vehicle is top-heavy, fragile, or prone to diving during breaking. 

EDIT: this is how I treat TR2L rover wheels (I think that's their name. The black ones) The ballon ones are a slightly different story. I tweak damping, still employ SAS sway bars, and focus on good proportions in wheelbase. 2:3 seems a good ratio. 

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Did my own try at changing the ship files directly. I got rid of the "autostrutMode = ForceHeaviest" on the wheels... and saw that wheels are STILL autostruted. ;.;

I'll have another go tonight.

Btw, Is there a mod that simulate ICE? beside the old ICE mod that is not updated anymore?


 

 

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49 minutes ago, NKL said:

Did my own try at changing the ship files directly. I got rid of the "autostrutMode = ForceHeaviest" on the wheels... and saw that wheels are STILL autostruted. ;.;

I'll have another go tonight.

Btw, Is there a mod that simulate ICE? beside the old ICE mod that is not updated anymore?


 

 

There prob is, but the config params are relatively straightforward - should you be interested in making your own. 

EDIT: hey @Triop, I don't see it explicitly addressed anywhere. Are our vehicles allowed to use detachable equipment? Like expended modules, drop 'em when your done?

Furthermore: can these drop pods be only fuel, or can they also include motors? I ask because I am using a small booster stage to accelerate through the flat part of stage 1, where your still on flat-as-hell KSC property. 

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7 hours ago, Triop said:

I fly here every day

I just realised, I have never visited that site. :/

 Been driving my jet rover, it has a top speed of around 80m/s and eats up terrain and can survive anything except very high drops. How are you guys tackling the high speed hill jump landings?

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14 minutes ago, Majorjim! said:

I just realised, I have never visited that site. :/

 Been driving my jet rover, it has a top speed of around 80m/s and eats up terrain and can survive anything except very high drops. How are you guys tackling the high speed hill jump landings?

I use airbrakes. Not the A.I.R.B.R.A.K.E.S. because I think they're too large. Just a number of vertical and horizontal control surfaces coupled with the brakes and max control authority.

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Can a kerbal repack a chute from an external command seat? You could augment with a Drogue or two, and repack in the go. 

Has been said earlier that we can use KIS so I assume it's fine to repack a chute.

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4 hours ago, GDJ said:


Also play with the Friction control on the tires. Max out the rear tires, put the front <> 1.8 and 2.3. That will take care of any oversteer and keep the chassis locked better to a heading,
 

Whoa ... I never use max friction on wheels ... scary stuff. I like drifting and certainly not my vehicle rolling over. Yes, lower friction settings on the rear wheels makes the vehicle "seek" a lot.

If you're driving electric, I surely understand why you'd want higher friction - more traction.

3 hours ago, NKL said:

Did my own try at changing the ship files directly. I got rid of the "autostrutMode = ForceHeaviest" on the wheels... and saw that wheels are STILL autostruted. ;.;

I'll have another go tonight.

Btw, Is there a mod that simulate ICE? beside the old ICE mod that is not updated anymore?


 

 

What exactly do you want simulated? Some kind of resource - power conversion other than LOX - ElectricCharge?

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Just now, Azimech said:

I use airbrakes. Not the A.I.R.B.R.A.K.E.S. because I think they're too large. Just a number of vertical and horizontal control surfaces coupled with the brakes and max control authority.

Yeah they will far too big and ugly for my cute little rover. :D I have a rear

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 spoiler :cool:

for in air corrections but there's no getting around the wheels inherent breaking strength.. I don't want too many surfaces on the rover, it will spoil the looks. I have a good brake ratio between rear and front so I can brake at high speed so that coupled with jet engine cut will have to suffice.. I will have to concentrate really very hard indeed to whats ahead!

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1 hour ago, Azimech said:

Whoa ... I never use max friction on wheels ... scary stuff. I like drifting and certainly not my vehicle rolling over. Yes, lower friction settings on the rear wheels makes the vehicle "seek" a lot.

If you're driving electric, I surely understand why you'd want higher friction - more traction.

Meh. I have a roll cage. it's all good. :wink:
The max friction on the rear is helpful, and it's not a big deal if the COG is low enough.

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