magnemoe Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Why do they swap the fuel and oxidiser tanks on superheavy compared to statship. Starship has LOX at the bottom and methane at top however it appears that this is flipped for superheavy. Why? is it again because of weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 CM, I would imagine. Also: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, magnemoe said: Why do they swap the fuel and oxidiser tanks on superheavy compared to statship. Starship has LOX at the bottom and methane at top however it appears that this is flipped for superheavy. Why? is it again because of weight? Probably centre of mass. They also don't need as long of a LOX downcomer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying dutchman Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, tater said: SH Is it Just me, or does that look wider on the Bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, Flying dutchman said: Is it Just me, or does that look wider on the Bottom? I think it's just perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessingEveryDay Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Flying dutchman said: Is it Just me, or does that look wider on the Bottom? Breaking News: Elon Musk announces the Startship is actually a SSTO, and will be shaped like a large metal stick of celery. Edited February 1, 2021 by GuessingEveryDay Onion doesnt' fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RCgothic Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, Flying dutchman said: Is it Just me, or does that look wider on the Bottom? Trick of the light. I count the same number of highbay corrugations either side all the way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Flying dutchman said: Is it Just me, or does that look wider on the Bottom? It's due to the reflection from the door. It's as vertical as a joined up welded cylinder can be. Edited February 1, 2021 by YNM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Also, that's not the bottom section, any flare would be at the skirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanRising Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, GuessingEveryDay said: Breaking News: Elon Musk announces the Startship is actually a SSTO Oh no, not this again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Flying dutchman said: Is it Just me, or does that look wider on the Bottom? I saw the same thing as you, initially, but I agree with the respondents that it is likely a trick of the light / reflection of the highbay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, RealKerbal3x said: 2 hours ago, Flying dutchman said: Is it Just me, or does that look wider on the Bottom? I think it's just perspective. Copied to Inkscape and measured. ~295 px on top and ~290 px where the body meets the lower (conical ?) part and changes the color, ~303 px at the bottom. As we're looking from top, the bottom should be, vice versa, narrower. So, looks like it's a cone below the cylinder. Spoiler Well, it's normal. Edited February 1, 2021 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying dutchman Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, tater said: Also, that's not the bottom section, any flare would be at the skirt. That i did not know.. :p Thanks for the response everyone, i guess i fel for an optical ilusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Flying dutchman said: Is it Just me, or does that look wider on the Bottom? If you put your mouse on either side of the booster and scroll, you'll see that it's the same on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: I saw the same thing as you, initially, but I agree with the respondents that it is likely a trick of the light / reflection of the highbay Yes, they talked a bit about making the bottom a bit wider for more engines but that will be future versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 oooh, page levendyleven Also link in case you want to win a Dragon ride: https://www.prizeo.com/campaigns/l/inspiration4/inspiration4?utm_campaign=Inspiration4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Wow. This is big! One seat is given to the guy who started this thing. Second seat is for someone with close ties to St. Jude's children's hospital. Third seat will be given away in some sort of entrepreneurial contest with an online store and judges and whatnot. Fourth seat will be given away in a raffle. Donations to St. Jude's give more raffle entries for more money. The odds are doubtless extremely low, but it's awesome to think that normal people have at least a tiny chance of being able to go to space! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Eleventy-first! (not quite, Mr. Baggins) 18 minutes ago, tater said: Hah! Sorry to be pessimistic, but for now (and the foreseeable future), orbital space tourism will be the realm of multi-millionaires, their friends, and maybe a few random people for PR reasons. Suborbital will just be a lesser degree of wealth. Friendly reminder that we have not one, not two, but THREE Falcon Heavy launches scheduled for this year! USSF 44 USSF 52 ViaSat 3 !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 "Everyday people" who happen to have over $50M to spend on a one-week trip to the ISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) My back-of-the-napkin guesswork suggests somewhere around the 2e-7 mark for your chance of being selected upon entry as an average person. That's 0.00002%. Might be as good as 0.0002%, for the optimist? Edited February 1, 2021 by cubinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: "Everyday people" who happen to have over $50M to spend on a one-week trip to the ISS. The specific mission I just linked is raffling off the other seats to benefit St. Jude's Children's Hospital, and I don't think it is going to ISS. While the number of entries scales to the donation level, as a "sweepstake" it has the legal requirement of no cost for entry (noted at the bottom of the page after mentioning the $10 min donation (you get more entries with a dollar donation, vs 1 for free). So it's possible to go for nothing, though everyone donating $1000+ gets 10,000 entries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, tater said: The specific mission I just linked is raffling off the other seats to benefit St. Jude's Children's Hospital, and I don't think it is going to ISS. While the number of entries scales to the donation level, as a "sweepstake" it has the legal requirement of no cost for entry (noted at the bottom of the page after mentioning the $10 min donation (you get more entries with a dollar donation, vs 1 for free). So it's possible to go for nothing, though everyone donating $1000+ gets 10,000 entries. Yes, it's a multi-day mission with a "customized flight path", whatever that means besides the usual aerospace stuff, and a $10 donation gets you 100 entries, which is 100 times more than 1, but a lot less than the probable total amount. Spoiler Probably only a few people will donate the big bucks, so the average position is maybe the $500 mark. That's 500 million entries. So if you donate for 100 entries out of 500 million, your odds are 2e-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, cubinator said: it's a multi-day mission with a "customized flight path", whatever that means besides the usual aerospace stuff If it's a few days long I hope they won't need to hold their stomach. Maybe this will be the first time we see the potty in Dragon. It's still a big news however, orbital flights from a company and processing that have little backing from a national space agency. I know there were tourists onboard Mir but they had Roscosmos for training, plus it goes to Mir. Still willing to bet that whoever they elect to fly still have to pass medicals, and I guess the accommodation would be the same as on an ISS ferry flight. Edited February 2, 2021 by YNM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Spoiler 7 hours ago, tater said: 7 hours ago, mikegarrison said: "Everyday people" who happen to have over $50M to spend on a one-week trip to the ISS. The specific mission I just linked is raffling off the other seats to benefit St. Jude's Children's Hospital, and I don't think it is going to ISS. Am I the only one who recalls: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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