sevenperforce Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, kerbiloid said: But they need Starship to do that? 30 VelociRaptors per Starship = 30 VelociRaptors per fortnight? 1620 per year? Oh, yeah... Still sure that Von Braun knew better. P.S. About the 1620. I forgot, since which flight the Starship is going to get reusable? Notably, BEFORE the two-launches-per-month cadence. That is, in fact, the entire point. Making your math rather irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, mikegarrison said: I thought the long-range plan was in fact to use those oil rigs they bought as launch/landing platforms. Probably but that platform can not hold the tank farm and the secure space for the ground crew during launch. They will need multiple platforms Who is not uncommon but they sit on the seafloor, yes you can have floating platforms attached to them but you want distances here. I cringe every time I see how close the fuel farm is to the launch and test stands. Have some shrapnel pierce an methane tank and some other set fire to it and you get some interesting firework. 2 hours ago, mikegarrison said: You say this, although I know a person who was arrested in Texas (and confined and discharged from the military as a result) because he had a homemade bomb in the trunk of his car that he had intended to take out into some open area and blow up for fun. (This was late 80s.) Military hate you steal their stuff even if just to have fun with it. Mostly because you can sell it to criminals or terrorists who make them look bad or more likely you blow yourself up who is also a bit bad. Stealing stuff, they don't care much unless it get expensive. Much more fun if you are an officer, stuff like launching your old car on the catapult and have the forward AAA engage them in the air did happen. But yes stealing TNT or even cordite would get you into problems. Edited December 1, 2021 by magnemoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terwin Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 3 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Ummm... Have you been to Texas? (You can blow stuff up there for fun!) Some of the municipalities can get pretty grumpy about it though. Unincorporated parts of the sate only get concerned if you start fires or blow up stuff that was not yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, magnemoe said: Military hate you steal their stuff even if just to have fun with it. As I specified, it was a homemade bomb. What we now call an IED. It was not a military bomb that he had stolen. This guy (who clearly did not make the best decisions) had called [Snip] on another soldier's claim to be able to build a bomb. So the other guy built it for him to prove he could. The guy I knew (went to high school with) then put it into his car and was going to blow it up in some empty field to see if it actually worked. But he was pulled over for a separate (also stupid) thing, and when the cops asked him what else he had in his car, he admitted "I have a bomb in the trunk". It didn't help him that he is Hispanic and these were white Texas cops in the 1980s. Edited December 2, 2021 by James Kerman Redacted by a moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: As I specified, it was a homemade bomb. What we now call an IED. It was not a military bomb that he had stolen. This guy (who clearly did not make the best decisions) had called b*llsh*t on another soldier's claim to be able to build a bomb. So the other guy built it for him to prove he could. The guy I knew (went to high school with) then put it into his car and was going to blow it up in some empty field to see if it actually worked. But he was pulled over for a separate (also stupid) thing, and when the cops asked him what else he had in his car, he admitted "I have a bomb in the trunk". It didn't help him that he is Hispanic and these were white Texas cops in the 1980s. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessingEveryDay Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Mmm, Waterfall. The looping is really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, GuessingEveryDay said: Mmm, Waterfall. The looping is really cool. That is fascinating! Really cool. Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessingEveryDay Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) But it'll be sold as a NFT, so I went ahead and downloaded it. You could buy it for $ 459 USD, but I think that's a bit much for a gif loop. Edited December 2, 2021 by GuessingEveryDay Photoshop go brrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 My...my heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 7 hours ago, magnemoe said: 10 hours ago, mikegarrison said: I thought the long-range plan was in fact to use those oil rigs they bought as launch/landing platforms. Probably but that platform can not hold the tank farm and the secure space for the ground crew during launch. They will need multiple platforms But what about the ocean rising and the future storms and hurricanes?.. Are they aware of global warming? Is it a wise usage of money to buy what's doomed to sink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: But what about the ocean rising and the future storms and hurricanes?.. Are they aware of global warming? Is it a wise usage of money to buy what's doomed to sink? Are you familiar with the concept of... ... ... ...float? Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: Are you familiar with the concept of... ... ... ...float? Basically. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: Are you familiar with the concept of... ... ... ...float? Hide contents Now I am going to have nightmares. Thanks. A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: But what about the ocean rising and the future storms and hurricanes?.. Are they aware of global warming? Is it a wise usage of money to buy what's doomed to sink? ...you know that there are a few thousand oil platforms around the world right? You better tell them all that they are doomed Storms and hurricanes will be faced the same way any spaceport deals with storms and hurricanes? I don't really understand what you're getting at, it's not like they are only in the sea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Beccab said: You better tell them all that they are doomed They are all doomed. In something like 4 billion years the sun is going to become a red giant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 44 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Now I am going to have nightmares. Spoiler boo prolly shouldn’t use the hand wave gif… 22 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: They are all doomed. In something like 4 billion years the sun is going to become a red giant. nah, they’ll have cryogenic stuff on board, so they’ve got really good air conditioners. They good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AtomicTech Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 F A L C O N N I N E T I M E Let's go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 11 hours ago, mikegarrison said: They are all doomed. In something like 4 billion years the sun is going to become a red giant. 10 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: nah, they’ll have cryogenic stuff on board, so they’ve got really good air conditioners. They good. I plan to evolve into 'Q' by that time. Red Giant should be like a nice puffy bath of warm air, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Ship 20's flaps are fully deployed right now: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicTech Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, RealKerbal3x said: Ship 20's flaps are fully deployed right now: Beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, tater said: 3 hours And a half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, Beccab said: And a half I just read the "live in X hours" bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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