tater Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cubinator Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 *F9 launch in 24 hours* *delayed 24 hours, now after I fly north* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geonovast Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Aww, was hoping for a Pi Day launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Geonovast said: Aww, was hoping for a Pi Day launch. 31st of April ?.. Edited March 14, 2020 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying dutchman Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 hours ago, tater said: It's not true though is it? Lies to children or a typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Flying dutchman said: It's not true though is it? No, of course not. No Falcon first stage has actually "flown to orbit". Right now I think SpaceX is in the slightly confusing position of wanting to clearly separate Falcon from things like New Shepard. Thus the mention of "flown to orbit", except that the actual recovered boosters never get into orbit themselves. I expect that if Starship eventually works, then SpaceX will suddenly get religion about differentiating between boosters that launch something else into orbit versus hardware that actually does achieve orbit. Edited March 14, 2020 by mikegarrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying dutchman Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: No, of course not. No Falcon first stage has actually "flown to orbit". Right now I think SpaceX is in the slightly confusing position of wanting to clearly separate Falcon from things like New Shepard. Thus the mention of "flown to orbit", except that the actual recovered boosters never get into orbit themselves. I expect that if Starship eventually works, then SpaceX will suddenly get religion about differentiating between boosters that launch something else into orbit versus hardware that actually does achieve orbit. I can understand that from their perspective. I mean new sheppard is impressive in it's own right but it doesn't hold a candle to the falcon 9 booster. If SpaceX will have starship flying before- or at roughly the same time as NG spacex will still be one step ahead. I think NG really drives the pace of ss/sh development. They need to stay one step ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurja Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 11 hours ago, tater said: They say they're re-using a previously flown fairing, too - is this the first time they're doing that? https://mobile.twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1238610287256723456 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavio hc16 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, kurja said: They say they're re-using a previously flown fairing, too - is this the first time they're doing that? https://mobile.twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1238610287256723456 nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 They could just say “this booster did four orbital launches” or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricktoberfest Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 If they wanted, they probably could launch one of the falcon heavy boosters into a low orbit, then land it again. Didn’t they say at one point that theoretically F9 boosters could ssto? No payload except fuel, nose cone already attached. the only problem I see is I don’t think they’d have the fuel to slow down enough to survive reentry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ricktoberfest said: If they wanted, they probably could launch one of the falcon heavy boosters into a low orbit, then land it again. You mean the center stage that they haven't yet landed without it coming from orbit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, mikegarrison said: You mean the center stage that they haven't yet landed without it coming from orbit? They landed one center core, but lost it in rough seas... https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/15/18311945/spacex-falcon-heavy-center-core-drone-ship-rough-ocean But yeah, I can't see a core coming back from orbit. It would require too much props to slow down to survivable velocities. Edited March 14, 2020 by StrandedonEarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 So, Dragon 2 is designed to be reused. They won't do that with Commercial Crew, but do you think spacecraft will be reused for tourist missions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, RealKerbal3x said: So, Dragon 2 is designed to be reused. They won't do that with Commercial Crew, but do you think spacecraft will be reused for tourist missions? I bet they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Pandemic with a chance of tweet storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 In the recent Ars Technica article Elon said that they are (eventually) going to build a new Starship every 72 hours or so. If it’s only Starships and no Super Heavies, then they need to produce a Raptor every 12 hours, right? How can this pace be even remotely close to reality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, sh1pman said: In the recent Ars Technica article Elon said that they are (eventually) going to build a new Starship every 72 hours or so. If it’s only Starships and no Super Heavies, then they need to produce a Raptor every 12 hours, right? How can this pace be even remotely close to reality? They were able to make a Merlin a day a while ago, and I think normal business hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 7 hours ago, cubinator said: I bet they will. I bet they will not. It was designed to be reused after landing on land. It was when they switched to ocean landings that they cancelled any human re-use. I fail to see why that would be different if the humans are tourists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 NASA wanted new vehicles for each flight as I recall, don't think SpaceX cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, tater said: NASA wanted new vehicles for each flight as I recall, don't think SpaceX cares. This is not true. Boeing is planning on reusing their (ground-landed) capsules and NASA is fine with that. I am positive that SpaceX dropped their human reuse when they decided to switch to ocean landings. My speculation is that they had never initially designed the capsules for saltwater immersion and were not willing to go through whatever certification and refurb would be required to crew-rate a capsule that was previously immersed in saltwater. Also recall that NASA invented the reusable human-rated spacecraft. Edited March 15, 2020 by mikegarrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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