tater Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: This is not true. Boeing is planning on reusing their (ground-landed) capsules and NASA is fine with that. I am positive that SpaceX dropped their human reuse when they decided to switch to ocean landings. My speculation is that they had never initially designed the capsules for saltwater immersion and were not willing to go through whatever certification and refurb would be required to crew-rate a capsule that was previously immersed in saltwater. NASA cares, SpaceX might not. I was thinking they dropped human reuse for NASA as the customer (not necessarily some non-NASA customer). I might be wrong, and it's new vehicles all around. Edited March 15, 2020 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 NASA weren't willing to reuse boosters either. Until they were. SpaceX will likely reuse Dragon2 as a cargo craft enough times that NASA will accept it eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, mikegarrison said: I bet they will not. It was designed to be reused after landing on land. It was when they switched to ocean landings that they cancelled any human re-use. I fail to see why that would be different if the humans are tourists. Yet they tried testing one that was recovered from an ocean landing (the one that exploded). That probably means they are at least planning to reuse them. Besides, Dragon 1 gets reused. It's not like they switched materials and D2 is now made out of cotton candy and partially melts in water. Edited March 15, 2020 by Wjolcz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Wjolcz said: Yet they tried testing one that was recovered from an ocean landing (the one that exploded). That probably means they are at least planning to reuse them. Besides, Dragon 1 gets reused. It's not like they switched materials and D2 is now made out of cotton candy and partially melts in water. I don't understand the resistance to this. It was very clear. They said they were going to reuse the capsules for crew. Then they abandoned the propulsive landing in favor of parachuting into the ocean and announced that they would now only reuse the capsules on uncrewed missions. The cause and effect seems obvious there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Stream is live! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Abort "Launch abort on engine high power" was the call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) Looks like it's been recycled to T-15:00... Edit: ah, it's scrubbed Edited March 15, 2020 by RealKerbal3x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Scrub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Nope, no further launch attempts today. Probably due to inclination for launch. Looked like the abort was between engine ignition, and liftoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lajoswinkler Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Now they need an enormous stick to poke it. You can't approach, you have to poke it and throw water at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, tater said: "Launch abort on engine high power" was the call. In Kerbal language/English, what does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavio hc16 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Xd the great said: In Kerbal language/English, what does that mean? That the abort was done when engine were ignited and at max thrust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, mikegarrison said: I don't understand the resistance to this. It was very clear. They said they were going to reuse the capsules for crew. Then they abandoned the propulsive landing in favor of parachuting into the ocean and announced that they would now only reuse the capsules on uncrewed missions. The cause and effect seems obvious there. I misunderstood then. Thought we were talking about reuse in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kerbiloid Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Spoiler 2 hours ago, Xd the great said: 2 hours ago, tater said: "Launch abort on engine high power" was the call. In Kerbal language/English, what does that mean? Been hardly caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB-70A Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I'm going to spam this topic a bit... Here are some of the shots I've taken this morning. I was standing about 4 km/2.5 mi NNW of the SLC-39A, and some mist was present all morning long. Looking closer, it seems like only one engine lighted-up and earlier than others. Those pictures are heavily cropped, and I had to lower their white balance to get some contrast, but I thought some of you will be interested. Bonus shot, B1048.4 fairing emerging from the noise suppression system's cloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavio hc16 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 starlink 5 rescheduled for the 18th of march, 12.21 GMT (8:21 a.m. EDT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB-70A Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Flavio hc16 said: starlink 5 rescheduled for the 18th of march, 12.21 GMT (8:21 a.m. EDT) Confirmed by the 45th traditional forecast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nightside Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 9 hours ago, XB-70A said: Those pictures are heavily cropped, and I had to lower their white balance to get some contrast, but I thought some of you will be interested. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shpaget Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 "Slight booster length increase to 70m, so 120m for whole system. Liftoff mass ~5000 mT." That's ~twice as heavy as Saturn V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Presumably a booster length increase means they found some extra thrust from Raptor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, RCgothic said: Presumably a booster length increase means they found some extra thrust from Raptor? Or found a way to make the tanks lighter than previously thought. Disregard. Extra thrust from Raptor sounds plausible. Can also mean a longer interstage. Edited March 17, 2020 by sh1pman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, sh1pman said: Or found a way to make the tanks lighter than previously thought. Actually, he did mention switching to a different stainless alloy, 304 I think. Could be better strength/weight ratio. Also, this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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