totm dec 2019 Russian Launch and Mission Thread

[cubinator]

34 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:

Why? They were rotating at the same angular speed, so Nauka would escape radially.

Nauka would lose angular speed as it leaves, and Zvezda would move up to hit it.

[kerbiloid]

7 hours ago, Beccab said:

If I remember correctly Nauka was thrusting because it wanted to abort docking minutes after hard docking, so the rotation would very likely end up hitting Zvezda in that direction

It would be physically impossible to hit Zvezda, because Nauka is attached to Zvezda radially, and the thruster was thrusting in radial-out direction.

Also, the thruster thrust is ~40 kgf per nozzle, with three nozzles in the ignited block pointing in that direction, while the module mass is ~20 t.

So, the acceleration ~= 0.12 / 20 * 9.81 ~=  6 cm/s² even without ISS attached to its end.

7 hours ago, cubinator said:

Nauka would lose angular speed as it leaves, and Zvezda would move up to hit it.

See above.

Edited August 2, 2021 by kerbiloid

[kerbiloid]

https://www.interfax.ru/russia/782221

The cosmonauts will twice perform EVA, on September, 2 and 8.
They will be integrating Nauka into ISS externally.

The total integration will take a half of year and about 10 EVA seances for cabling and piping (see the KAS mod).
Also they will attach the attachment pads for attachable objects (you need 1.12 for that, with the Engineers extended capabilities).

Also they will relocate the airlock and the radiator panel from the Rassvet module.

On September, 28, they will redock Soyuz MS-18 from Rassvet to Nauka,
This will free the Raasvet docking node for Soyuz MS-19 (that one with the filming crew), which is planned on October, 5.

[StrandedonEarth]

So is Russia trying to get out of its ISS obligations by wrecking the thing?

[sh1pman]

14 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said:

So is Russia trying to get out of its ISS obligations by wrecking the thing?

Bad idea to wreck the thing that has your own cosmonauts on it.

[kerbiloid]

It had docked the ISS to Nauka. and will reinforce this with cables as stated.

[StrandedonEarth]

2 hours ago, sh1pman said:

Bad idea to wreck the thing that has your own cosmonauts on it.

True, but that helps with plausible deniability 

[DDE]

 

[kerbiloid]

Rassvet of Schroedinger.

[kerbiloid]

https://www.interfax.ru/russia/782471

Roscosmos stated that total mass of debris flying around the Earth got equal to 7 000 t.

[DDE]

Yuri Pasholok, WoT's paper tank expert in chief, has photographed the MAKS-2021 model of the Zeus tug from every imaginable angle, and added the smaller MAKS-2019 model for good measure.

https://yuripasholok.livejournal.com/13526969.html

@nyrath, want to have a bite?

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

https://www.russianspaceweb.com/tem.html

Some interesting photos for scale 

[DDE]

3 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

https://www.russianspaceweb.com/tem.html

Some interesting photos for scale 

That be the leaked handout from Armiya-2020.

[SunlitZelkova]

A couple of relatively serious HOPE (Human Outer Planet Exploration) studies have been conducted in the US. Have any similar studies ever been conducted in the USSR or Russia?

Another question- In China, it appears CNSA has chosen to respond to Starship with a semi-reusable version of the Long March 9- effectively a super heavy lift Falcon 9 of sorts, and there has been no known research in China at any of the aerospace universities or institutes into a Starship like vehicle so far. If *someone* (organization/company/whatever) in Russia hypothetically wished to create their own "counter" to Starship, what might that look like?

[DDE]

12 hours ago, SunlitZelkova said:

Have any similar studies ever been conducted in the USSR or Russia?

Tsiolkovsky (Jupiter) and Saturn probes never got into the drawing board stage, and you're talking about HOPE? No, no serious studies to my knowledge. The Soviets were always incrementalists with regard to spaceflight duration, so they weren't going anywhere until they've performed a Mars surrogate flight on Mir.

12 hours ago, SunlitZelkova said:

If *someone* (organization/company/whatever) in Russia hypothetically wished to create their own "counter" to Starship, what might that look like?

There's really no jumping-off point for a meaningful reply. RD-170-family engines are only reusable 10 times. Railway infrastructure restricts stage diameter to well below that of Starship. If you want a Starship surrogate, you have to throw the entirety of Russian SLV development out the window and start from a clean slate.

Edited August 6, 2021 by DDE
correction

[kerbiloid]

While the Soviet hi-tech was sending advanced electronic robots, NASA had to be catching up the advanced Soviet electronics and sending crews to keep the ships working.

Also it's much cheaper to not fly to Mars by Mir than not fly there by SLS or Starship.

***

It would look like a company bankruptcy on the 3d design phase of the project.

Edited August 6, 2021 by kerbiloid

[DDE]

Embryological studies inside a centrifuge and in 0-g onboard Nauka. And the lucky species is ...Japanese quail?

https://tass.ru/kosmos/12086555

[kerbiloid]

Quote

Второй этап подразумевает выведение популяции перепелов на орбите

"The second phase of the experiments is devoted to raising of quail population in orbit".

That's a purpose for that inflatable shed we already forgot of.
It can be a henhouse.

[kerbiloid]

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://tass.ru/kultura/12088217

The TV viewers will be able to watch all phases of preparation to the movie filming, on Sundays from September.

In March the Channel One started filiming the process, from the actress casting.

The plot of the "Challenge" is about a specialist girl who must prepare in a month to the flight to ISS to perform an important mission assigned by Roscosmos.

The rookies will be training to do the space things, withstand the overloads, and survive on the planet (Earth?) surface after landing.

The technologies and training practices of Roscosmos will be shown.

Edited August 9, 2021 by kerbiloid

[DDE]

1 hour ago, kerbiloid said:

who must to prepare in a month to the flight to ISS to perform an important mission assigned by Roscosmos.

"X" for doubt

[kerbiloid]

They could.

Spoiler

Thus, she should.

Spoiler

 

[BuranAce]

On 7/27/2021 at 1:28 AM, Beccab said:

Relevant DailyHopper

[kerbiloid]

I guess, the ground scenes are filmed long ago.

Then Nauka provided them with natural SFX (why, do you all think, all this performance took place?)

Now they'll film the zero-G scenes to make nervously smoking at doors not only Cruise, but also Bullock (her SFX was just a 3d).

And by the end of the year there could be the movie. Exactly, when the film-about-film finishes on TV.

Alas, unlikely there will be toys and souvenirs, like a toy Nauka with water thrusters.

Edited August 9, 2021 by kerbiloid

[kerbiloid]

And back to the glorious Nauka.

(Many letters, much Science.)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://nplus1.ru/blog/2021/08/10/mlm-fuel

Edited August 11, 2021 by kerbiloid

[DDE]

Did you miss the Soyuz MS-09 hole gossip?

https://tass.ru/kosmos/12115081

TL;DR: it took someone nine tries, the ne'er-do-well even tried drilling straight through one of the structural frames - indicating they weren't properly anchored in zero-G, and they weren't familiar with the structural layout. Plus the "sauce" repeats the claim that vacuum testing would've caught the hole.

Basically, "I'm not saying it's Americans...

...but they didn't show up for lie detector tests."

Edited August 12, 2021 by DDE