Air Superiority Fighter Competition Continued

[DoctorDavinci]

@Box of Stardust - so to address your issue with the HP being too high I went and finished off the HP and Armor Editor for BDAc v1.1 ... I just uploaded it to my github and it should help with the HP balance that you are looking for

On another note, I also have the HP Balancer that will balance damage across the whole craft, let me know if you're interested as it is another avenue that you could look at for making the battles more balanced ... It's still in the dev phase but could be used to assign a certain amount of HP to a vessel and have it spread evenly across the parts after which, while in battle, the hp damage will be spread across all parts essentially giving you the ability to assign a whole craft a specific amount of hp

Anyways, here's the thread link for the HP and Armor Editor:

Hope this helps

[Guest]

@Box of Stardust i am entering the Du-8C.

[Box of Stardust]

24 minutes ago, DoctorDavinci said:

@Box of Stardust - so to address your issue with the HP being too high I went and finished off the HP and Armor Editor for BDAc v1.1 ... I just uploaded it to my github and it should help with the HP balance that you are looking for

On another note, I also have the HP Balancer that will balance damage across the whole craft, let me know if you're interested as it is another avenue that you could look at for making the battles more balanced ... It's still in the dev phase but could be used to assign a certain amount of HP to a vessel and have it spread evenly across the parts after which, while in battle, the hp damage will be spread across all parts essentially giving you the ability to assign a whole craft a specific amount of hp

Anyways, here's the thread link for the HP and Armor Editor:

Hope this helps

Awesome! I believe that could be just what we're looking for, at least partially. Will test later.

Many thanks.

I understand it's just in its first release, but I suggest also adding a way to assign HP by percentage of default part HP.

And yes, I definitely would like to see the craft-wide HP balancer happen, I think that would be a good dynamic.

Edited March 18, 2018 by Box of Stardust

[DoctorDavinci]

17 minutes ago, Box of Stardust said:

Awesome! I believe that could be just what we're looking for, at least partially. Will test later.

Many thanks.

I understand it's just in its first release, but I suggest also adding a way to assign HP by percentage of default part HP.

And yes, I definitely would like to see the craft-wide HP balancer happen, I think that would be a good dynamic.

Well the HP Balancer is already a thing so I could clean it up a bit and add a menu for turning it off and on as well as adding your suggestion of a HP modifier to modify all parts on a craft to a % of each parts max HP respectively, shouldn't be that difficult

I'll play around a bit and see what I can put together for you ... I can likely add a total HP readout on screen as well so you can see a crafts total HP

 

Edited March 18, 2018 by DoctorDavinci

[53miner53]

1 hour ago, Box of Stardust said:

@53miner53 P-5 Flash (but I seem to have problems with ProcWings because it won't load despite having it installed)

I'll assume you also have Airplane+ working, but you got PWings from here, right? Also, I've updated it recently to deal with an issue with a phantom probe core, so you might want to redownload it, just in case. 

[Box of Stardust]

1 minute ago, 53miner53 said:

I'll assume you also have Airplane+ working, but you got PWings from here, right? Also, I've updated it recently to deal with an issue with a phantom probe core, so you might want to redownload it, just in case. 

Well, the weird thing is I was actually able to load it before, but my recent download... uh, broke it?

[53miner53]

Just now, Box of Stardust said:

Well, the weird thing is I was actually able to load it before, but my recent download... uh, broke it?

If the recent download was from yesterday, then that could probably be the problem. If redownloading the mod and the plane doesn't work, then I might have to try redownloading PWings and see if I have an older version of it. 

[GillyMonster]

2 hours ago, Box of Stardust said:

Hey all, figured it's a good time for an update on the current state of the leaderboard and the queue.

1	PEGASys-D3
2	Vampire Squirrel
3	TFD mod A
4	Viper-ASP MkIIc
5	Gunbrick (testing to be continued)

 

Queue:

1. @Box of Stardust Gunbrick (in testing)
2. @prgmTrouble X-15 Exoneratis Hirundo
3. @Earthlinger Berzerker 2.1
4. @ZLM-Master V-TEK (replaces VG-D3.4-PG in queue, as far as I understood)
5. @53miner53 P-5 Flash (but I seem to have problems with ProcWings because it won't load despite having it installed)
6. @Wolf5698 Lynx
7. @Wolf5698 Cheetah
8. @ZLM-Master Rafale (still sure about this?)
9. @GillyMonster Dart II
10. @dundun93 TFD 2.1
11. @Box of Stardust Basilisk -C3
12. @Box of Stardust CShRAID
13. @goduranus Vampire Squirrel B
14. @dundun92 Du-5Rs
15. @dundun92 Du-6S "Diode"
16. @dundun93 A26
17. 
    @dundun92 Du-8C 

 

Current leaderboard and non-exhaustive selections from the queue:

Ermuhgerd...my fighter is way too big for the rest of these...I definitely did not follow the trend.

 

Edited March 18, 2018 by GillyMonster

[Box of Stardust]

1 hour ago, 53miner53 said:

If the recent download was from yesterday, then that could probably be the problem. If redownloading the mod and the plane doesn't work, then I might have to try redownloading PWings and see if I have an older version of it. 

Still does not open, and I reinstalled PWings and also have B9 PWings installed.

Your craft also never seems to download correctly and gets downloaded as two files:

1. a file with no type

2. what seems to be a temporary file with 0 kb data and doesn't actually register as a file and can't be deleted normally (which was a source of minor frustration until I figured out how to)

[53miner53]

10 minutes ago, Box of Stardust said:

Still does not open, and I reinstalled PWings and also have B9 PWings installed.

Your craft also never seems to download correctly and gets downloaded as two files:

1. a file with no type

2. what seems to be a temporary file with 0 kb data and doesn't actually register as a file and can't be deleted normally (which was a source of minor frustration until I figured out how to)

Don't know whats happening with that, it worked just fine when I tried downloading it, but here is a link to a copy in my google drive. Hopefully this one works. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gbIGyjO0WtHqMFjYYe7LAKBs2CKD4CkG

Edit: did not test the copy in game, but it was a .craft file. 

Edited March 18, 2018 by 53miner53

[ZLM-Master]

@Box of Stardust Yep V-TEK insteed of VG

I sould replaced Rafale , it's tottaly out perform in the actual leaderbord . I got new one , but not tweaked yet .

I made a quick crash test , with my own plane with absolutly all parts with 200 Hitpoints , You can see how damage is with this tune !

As i read below , a SPH tune will be great

EDIT : Great , it's far easy now to tune all that parts !

Edited March 18, 2018 by ZLM-Master

[Box of Stardust]

1 minute ago, ZLM-Master said:

@Box of Stardust Yep V-TEK insteed of VG

I sould replaced Rafale , it's tottaly out perform in the actual leaderbord . I got new one , but not tweaked yet .

I made a quick crash test , with my own plane with absolutly all parts with 200 Hitpoints , You can see how damage is with this tune !

As i read below , a SPH tune will be great

That seems more normal. Did you try testing against your VG without touching HP though? It's nuts.

 

2 hours ago, 53miner53 said:

Don't know whats happening with that, it worked just fine when I tried downloading it, but here is a link to a copy in my google drive. Hopefully this one works. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gbIGyjO0WtHqMFjYYe7LAKBs2CKD4CkG

Edit: did not test the copy in game, but it was a .craft file. 

 

Still doesn't open, and I reinstalled the mods. It's noting a PWings issue.

[53miner53]

28 minutes ago, Box of Stardust said:

Still doesn't open, and I reinstalled the mods. It's noting a PWings issue.

I’m probably running an older version of PWings then. I’ll see if I can tell which version. 

Edit: I have version 0.12.2 for 1.3.0, but I’m using it in 1.3.1... 

Edited March 19, 2018 by 53miner53

[Dimas152]

bcs mai F-22N isn't queued more, so i'm entering this 
https://kerbalx.com/dimas_1502/KF-XIF-X-C-100
basically my previous entry, but with more mods and different name
6 amraam inside

[goduranus]

4 hours ago, [INDO]dimas_1502 said:

bcs mai F-22N isn't queued more, so i'm entering this 
https://kerbalx.com/dimas_1502/KF-XIF-X-C-100
basically my previous entry, but with more mods and different name
6 amraam inside

Maybe don't use AMRAAMs, all leaderboard planes have ECM, AMRAAMs will never fire.

 

Who ever runs next rounds, myself included, maybe make a note to run this one first, cuz he's replacing his old plane which was pretty high on the queue, not submitting a new one.

Edited March 19, 2018 by goduranus

[Dimas152]

well ok i'll change it to sidewinders

[Thorn_Ike]

On the account of many of my unarmed test fighters exploding (long story), is Kerbal Joint Reinforcement allowed once it's updated?

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, Thorn_Ike said:

On the account of many of my unarmed test fighters exploding (long story), is Kerbal Joint Reinforcement allowed once it's updated?

I don't think so, as it changes game physics. Why do ur planes explode though? 

[Thorn_Ike]

27 minutes ago, dundun92 said:

I don't think so, as it changes game physics. Why do ur planes explode though? 

trying to make my thing maneuverable with one too many ore tanks and winglets.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, Thorn_Ike said:

trying to make my thing maneuverable with one too many ore tanks and winglets.

Just spam canards.

[Piatzin]

If you type 'air superiority fighter competition' into google - without any mention of KSP, you get this thread

Also congrats, on over 100 pages of dogfights and general trash talking XD

[Box of Stardust]

1 hour ago, Thorn_Ike said:

On the account of many of my unarmed test fighters exploding (long story), is Kerbal Joint Reinforcement allowed once it's updated?

There's no reason it isn't, except that no one usually has it installed.

My first entries were all tested with KJR on my end, but forgot how wobbly stock was. You can look back in the thread in the page 40 range for Viper vs Wasp.

My solution now is just Editor Extensions Redux (which frankly, everyone should use), and use its toggle 'All rigid' and 'Autostrut: Root part' feature. I'd say it's about 95% effective as KJR.

31 minutes ago, dundun92 said:

Just spam canards.

I think something like 60% of PEGASys's lift comes from control surfaces lol. 

[ZLM-Master]

Yopyop

I build a new Cool Craft who can replace my outdatted Rafale . It's a Twin Vulcan Drone Fighter not bad at all .

It's a 5 Tons less craft without RW Lightly Weaponned .

@Box of Stardust  Right , VG with default Hitpoints was just a 'Flying Tank' XD ; i build it before BDAc release so that wasn't intended , but just hazard .

 

[Guest]

Currently uploading some fights!

Alright, we have @Box of Stardust's Gunbrick off against his Viper. Who will win?

Spoiler

Although the Viper nearly won the first round, it lost hands-down the second one.

 

[Guest]

 

@exbyde this is unfair. You're going to let  @Box of Stardust enter all these airplanes and take over the leaderbord. Tow per person should be the limit.