[1.10.x, 1.11.x, 1.12.x] MOAR Station Science - Out of BETA

[spoonyboobah]

 

[Vl3d]

It seems I cannot transfer fuel from a local tank to the Rocket Fuels Experiment module. Is this not allowed?

[linuxgurugamer]

2 hours ago, Vl3d said:

It seems I cannot transfer fuel from a local tank to the Rocket Fuels Experiment module. Is this not allowed?

That's a general KSP question, nothing to do with this mod

[Vl3d]

3 hours ago, linuxgurugamer said:

That's a general KSP question, nothing to do with this mod

I thought the Rocket Fuels Experiment module is part of Station Science.

[linuxgurugamer]

1 hour ago, Vl3d said:

I thought the Rocket Fuels Experiment module is part of Station Science.

Sorry, misread

I'd have to do some research, not sure what the rocket fuel tank takes in the station

[jd284]

On 1/24/2023 at 3:02 PM, Vl3d said:

It seems I cannot transfer fuel from a local tank to the Rocket Fuels Experiment module. Is this not allowed?

It's allowed for the fuel experiment parts (they have crossflow enabled), but you have to mind that some other parts such as heat shields and structural parts don't permit fuel flow, and for decouplers you have to enable it in the PAW. That's probably your issue.

Well, at least it was my issue a few times, and I had to bolt a new FL-200 next to the original tank, transfer the fuel into it, and then move it next to the experiment using EVA construction. Because usually I put the tank on the wrong side of the heat shield for this...

[linuxgurugamer]

New release, 2.6.2

• Thanks to github user @grimmas for this:
  • Added support for Dynamic Battery Storage mod 
  • added USI life support options
• Thanks to github user @jd284 for this:
  • Fix inability to remove obsolete experiments
• Thanks to github user @spoonyBoobah for this:
  • Added 2 experiments to StationScience, Zoology Observations & Zoology Observations
• Fixed small memory leak due to not releasing a callback from a GameEvent
• Thanks to github user @Grimmas for this patch:    
  • System Heat supported by patch

 

Edited March 26, 2023 by linuxgurugamer

[Daniel Prates]

13 hours ago, linuxgurugamer said:

Added 2 experiments to StationScience, Zoology Observations & Zoology Observations

Oops!

[linuxgurugamer]

New release, 2.6.2.1

• Thanks to @gotmachine for this:
  • Remove useless IConfigNode and [Persistent] implementations to fix conflict with KSPCommunityFixes

[NaviG]

Wrong mod, sorry

Edited May 4, 2023 by NaviG

[XxRedwoodxX]

Though I have a fuel tank (R-12 Doughnut) connected directly to my Rocket Fuel experiment, it won't accept any fuel. (It might count as connected to the top of the service bay I have the experiment in as the two nodes are right next to each other, but they're on the same side of the heat shield.) I also find it strange that the experiment can't come with rocket fuel already in it. (Also it'd be cool if this worked with FreeIVA - as it is, the THNKER lab has the internals of the MPL lab and doesn't connect to other hatches; hatches that should lead into the lab are marked as blocked from outside and lead to EVA from the inside, putting me on the side hatch.)

[StormxWolf]

On 5/3/2023 at 4:36 AM, XxRedwoodxX said:

Though I have a fuel tank (R-12 Doughnut) connected directly to my Rocket Fuel experiment, it won't accept any fuel. (It might count as connected to the top of the service bay I have the experiment in as the two nodes are right next to each other, but they're on the same side of the heat shield.) I also find it strange that the experiment can't come with rocket fuel already in it. (Also it'd be cool if this worked with FreeIVA - as it is, the THNKER lab has the internals of the MPL lab and doesn't connect to other hatches; hatches that should lead into the lab are marked as blocked from outside and lead to EVA from the inside, putting me on the side hatch.)

Making it compatible with freeiva would mean using the science lab model for the thnkr or making an entirely new custom IVA. The former means throwing out the art made for the mod, which while I see the point is making the art someone did a waste (which just sucks). The latter means modeling entirely new IVAs which is very hard

 

Unrelated to the reply, xScience appears to allow you to cheat, finalizing experiments instantly. Depending on the maintainer's perspective this may or may not be an issue.

Edited July 2, 2023 by StormxWolf

[XxRedwoodxX]

Cool, but I still don't know how to get my rocket fuel in the rocket fuel.

[IanThePineapple]

Hello,

I had an issue where several parts from Bluedog Design Bureau would cause immense lag in-game once I placed them on a vessel in the editor, and lagged especially when I flew them. I opened the console and saw that they were throwing constant repeating exceptions. I've attached my log below, but here's one of the identical exceptions:

[EXC 15:28:01.762] ReflectionTypeLoadException: Exception of type 'System.Reflection.ReflectionTypeLoadException' was thrown.
    System.Reflection.Assembly.GetTypes () (at <9577ac7a62ef43179789031239ba8798>:0)
    KSPe.Util.SystemTools+Type+Find.ByInterfaceName (System.String qn) (at <58fb44557e3d487fa13c42bddbc423e1>:0)
    TweakScaleCompanion.Frameworks.Waterfall.TweakScalerWaterfallFX.InitModule () (at <50cf5620a2404793bbf841a4c46192d9>:0)
    TweakScaleCompanion.Frameworks.Waterfall.TweakScalerWaterfallFX.Update () (at <50cf5620a2404793bbf841a4c46192d9>:0)
    UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
    ModuleManager.UnityLogHandle.InterceptLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
    UnityEngine.Debug:CallOverridenDebugHandler(Exception, Object)
[LOG 15:28:01.763] [ModuleManager] Intercepted a ReflectionTypeLoadException. List of broken DLLs:
MOARStationScience 2.6.2.1 GameData\StationScience\Plugins\MOARStationScience.dll

It seemed like MOAR Station Science was causing this, and after removing this mod from my GameData, the lag went away with Bluedog parts. Not sure what specifically was causing this, but it was sometime in the mod, and I figured I'd pass it along for reference.

Here's my log file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1659GB4TvwKKw86uSoaTCEVOCw8vzpUaA/view?usp=sharing

- Ian

 

Disregard, found the issue.

Edited August 28, 2023 by IanThePineapple

[Max_Xu]

When I connected the ship to the space station, the message 'Warning: experiment xxx has detached from the station without being finalized' kept popping up at the top of the screen. And when I switched the spaceship, the experiment automatically stopped.

[GoatBOT]

Having same issue as the above post.  Have a contract to do the experiment and return it to kerbin with results inside.  Ive cycled this twice and unable to complete contract.  Do get the 'Warning: experiment xxx has detached from the station without being finalized' with the probe being docked to the station the whole time.

[RunaDacino]

Sc ience Alert Realerted seems to interface badly with this mod, allowing skipping the experiment times and doing the experiments instantly.

[Hubeb69]

I keep getting this error in ckan
Error downloading MOARStationScience v2.6.2.1: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 95.217.59.158:443

[Brigadier]

9 hours ago, Hubeb69 said:

I keep getting this error in ckan
Error downloading MOARStationScience v2.6.2.1: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 95.217.59.158:443

Welcome to the forums.

Perhaps you should mention this in the CKAN thread.

[Fizzlebop Smith]

On 1/30/2023 at 4:00 PM, jd284 said:

It's allowed for the fuel experiment parts (they have crossflow enabled), but you have to mind that some other parts such as heat shields and structural parts don't permit fuel flow, and for decouplers you have to enable it in the PAW. That's probably your issue.

Well, at least it was my issue a few times, and I had to bolt a new FL-200 next to the original tank, transfer the fuel into it, and then move it next to the experiment using EVA construction. Because usually I put the tank on the wrong side of the heat shield for this...

Others have answered this regarding the "unobstructed" fuel flow to the part housing the experiment. If this was not considered at the time of construction.. you can use KAS or the DLC (IIRC?) to attach an external fuel line. Depending on your situation, this may require a rendezvous. Depending on where this is taking place.. it may be faster to rebuild.
Aslo, as you progress with this mod I recommend most of the experiments you run. be connected to main modules via docking ports. 

I typically make a "Science" Vessel that docks with the main lab, carrying a few experiment mods. Once you start generating Quarks and things, keep in mind that the experiments have to be recovered.
This will come into play later and does not really impact rocket fuels
 

 

On 11/16/2023 at 5:34 AM, GoatBOT said:

Having same issue as the above post.  Have a contract to do the experiment and return it to kerbin with results inside.  Ive cycled this twice and unable to complete contract.  Do get the 'Warning: experiment xxx has detached from the station without being finalized' with the probe being docked to the station the whole time.

Make sure that the any docking ports, decouplers, etc are set to share fuel. There is a mod that i cannot think of at the moment that allows fuel transfer between docked vessels. Otherwise you need Rocket Fuel Module attached in a manner that it can normally be fed fuel.

[Kurbalizer]

Sorry to say, that I stumbled over a problem. It occurs in combination with SystemHeat by Nertea. I only installed Station Science and SystemHeat, as can be seen on the sreenshot of GameData. I also included the log-files.

When doing the experiments they are interrupted and cannot be finished(finalized). I took care for the science parts not to overheat. It says that the Experiment detached before being finalized. There seems to be no way to change the setting on the part after that. 

What can be done?

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/8aohyeitdtt7d35v4lu78/AKyutzSezlDhPS0SN7aKdJ8?rlkey=mri26dl7jzmk05f5vnhxjvdy3&st=8g5olh7u&dl=0

P.S.; I posted something similar on the corresponding thread, because I don't understand on which side it could possibly be solved. Thank's in advance for your efforts.

Edited September 2 by Kurbalizer