A controversial opinion of mine

[Maria Sirona]

So, uh, i don't think of clipping fuel tanks as a cheat. Yip. That's my controversial opinion.

 

 

 

My justification for it is that the fuel is highly pressurised. And the extra weight of the tanks themselves? The thicker shell of the fuel tank required to handle the extra pressure obviously wheighs more.

 

Just thought i'd like to tell.

[Mahnarch]

Blasphemy!!

 

lol. I do the same. I figure the inside walls that would have overlapped have been removed to make room for all the fuel - all carefully welded together by  Bill.

[Curveball Anders]

14 minutes ago, Mahnarch said:

Blasphemy!!

Burn the Witch!

[Kerbart]

https://i.imgflip.com/5ak492.jpg

Edited May 22, 2021 by Kerbart

[N_Danger]

I clip things all the time. But I get reminded all the time that it summons the the Kraken.

[Bej Kerman]

5 hours ago, Curveball Anders said:

5 hours ago, Mahnarch said:

Blasphemy!!

Burn the Witch!

Cull the Curveballs!

[Guest]

I don’t think you can really cheat in a 1 player game as who are you cheating? Only yourself. So do whatever you like, if you can sleep nights you cheater 

[swjr-swis]

 

[jimmymcgoochie]

I tried using part clipping recently to turn 2x Mk3 tanks into a single 3.75m tank, but every time the vessel loaded in it immediately self-destructed so I had to abandon the concept.

I even do it in RO/RP-1; I’m playing it realistically enough with all those mods, what’s the point in adding more complexity with arbitrary part placement rules that just get in the way? It’s not like I’m double-stacking fuel tanks or anything, just a few small RCS propellant tanks or hydrolox for fuel cells to keep the outside of my craft looking nice and sleek.

[Dientus]

For me, I try not to do to much clipping. Unless it's my hair or beard. My hair must be clipped!!!

 

One thing that is just a me pet peeve is when clipping like @jimmymcgoochie

Suggests because on my machine the graphics waver and look bad.

[Philae_Rosetta2021]

I try not to clip for the full sense of "realism", but I think it is allowable when you want to have a great-looking craft or a true-to-life replica of some rocket.

[king of nowhere]

On 5/22/2021 at 3:46 PM, Maria Sirona said:

My justification for it is that the fuel is highly pressurised. And the extra weight of the tanks themselves? The thicker shell of the fuel tank required to handle the extra pressure obviously wheighs more.

 

Just thought i'd like to tell.

actually, it's liquid. you can't compress it further.

[jimmymcgoochie]

6 minutes ago, king of nowhere said:

actually, it's liquid. you can't compress it further.

Tell that to the bottom of the ocean...

[king of nowhere]

41 minutes ago, jimmymcgoochie said:

Tell that to the bottom of the ocean...

the bottom of the mariana trench, with a pressure 1000 times greater than surface pressure, has water being compressed. By about 0.8%, if i remember exactly.

Yes, the old adage "liquids are incompressible" is not exactly true if taken at face value. But they require ludicrous pressures to compress very little, so for virtually all practical and engineeristical purposes, we can consider them as incompressible.

If you compress your fuel to 1000 atmospheres, which is already well above the maximum pressures you can sustain on a large tank in a practical way, you will be able to stuff 1% more fuel in it. Maybe liquid hydrogen/methane/oxygen/hydrazine are more compressible than water, in which case you may even squeeze an extra 2 or 3%. In any case, as far as actually putting more fuel inside, it's meaningless.

 

One can do whatever one pleases in single player, but I have to point out when one's headcanon is scientifically unsustainable.

 

personally, i've done some clippings between wings (with inside tanks) and fuselage to make the thing look better. but not to any large degree.

[kerbiloid]

Clipping tanks is like eating the breakfast, the lunch, the dinner at once.

[Hotel26]

1 hour ago, kerbiloid said:

Clipping tanks is like eating the breakfast, the lunch, the dinner at once.

Hello, Ralph Kraken!!...

Edited May 25, 2021 by Hotel26

[Maria Sirona]

5 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

ludicrous pressures

KSP isn't realistic. It's kerbal

[Single stage to ocean]

Limited clipping is justified b/c KSP has terrible mass fractions, fuel tanks weigh 10 times as irl.