[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [16.1][28.05.2024][Mars Expedition WIP]

[DJ Reonic]

Dammit Beale!!!

Your mod is too awesome!!!

[Beale]

Many thanks guys!

If you like half-broken half-finished things these latest parts are on Github.

[RaiderMan]

question...not a request mind..is there a retractable boom in the works for this partset by any chance? like the ones that were on the actual mir space station?

see pic 

[Beale]

18 minutes ago, RaiderMan said:

question...not a request mind..is there a retractable boom in the works for this partset by any chance? like the ones that were on the actual mir space station?

see pic 

Yep, already in the mod (forget the exact names right now though) - see posts just above.

It is difficult to assemble without KIS, but possible - there are tiny truss docking ports in there too!

Just a minor addition, but they were not retractable irl, but built manually by Eva (13 hours!).

Edited January 15, 2018 by Beale

[Deltac]

Half broken?  Lemme at em, I'll fully brake those parts! >:O

[TK-313]

Meanwhile...

If you're like me and like to fly the FGB as it was designed (i.e. its big lower command pod doubling as a fairing base), but, like me, you totally don't like fumbling around and clipping parts into each other, here is a little something for you:

@PART[Alniyat_Crew_1]:NEEDS[TantaresLV]
{
MODULE
{
	name = ModuleProceduralFairing
	
	nSides = 48
	nArcs = 2
	nCollidersPerXSection = 9
	TextureURL = TantaresLV/Parts/LLV/fairings_diff
	
	panelGrouping = 3
	pivot = 0,-0.0625,0
	axis = 0,-1,0
	
	baseRadius = 1.25
	maxRadius = 3
	capRadius = 0.15
	snapThreshold = 0.1
	
	xSectionHeightMin = 0.3
	xSectionHeightMax = 3
	
	edgeSlide = 0.15
	edgeWarp = 0.02
	noseTip = 0.5
	
	UnitAreaMass = 0.012
	UnitAreaCost = 12
	
	stagingToggleEnabledEditor = True
	stagingToggleEnabledFlight = False
	stagingEnableText = Fairing Not Staged
	stagingDisableText = Fairing Staged

	useClamshell = True
}
}

Copy it, paste it, save it as a cfg, use it! TKS fairing, completely hassle-free!

Now your TKS will be smooth and shiny

 

Edited January 16, 2018 by TK-313

[RaiderMan]

thanks @Beale

[CobaltWolf]

@Beale I think you should make that TKS fairing base from @TK-313 a part of stock tantares.

[Beale]

On 15/01/2018 at 1:13 AM, Leszek said:

Hello Beale.

I have had a chance to try your new Tantares release and I have some feedback for you.

-You made it so that you can't exit the Soyuz without an orbital module.  Excellent.  I never thought of that but it makes the part more than cosmetic.  I love it.

-You made it so that you can't control the Soyuz capsule without power.  Well that just killed a few Kerbals.  (Or would have if I didn't edit the persistence file.  When Kerbals die I restart the career and I didn't feel like restart for this.)  The issue is that if you have remote tech you may run out of power during launch making the capsule a death trap without extra batteries.  However an easy fix is to change the Soyuz LV to have alternators like stock engines.  They wouldn't need much, just about 1.5 energy per second minimum ought to make it so that the  rocket can get you to a place where you can use your solar power.

-You should change your parachutes to match stock.  With the current version of the game you can with stock parachutes stage them way out at entry interface and you won't kill the parachutes.  This allows you to jettison the orbital module with staging just fine.  I am guessing that was the reason for the non stock parachutes in the first place.  Anyway I edit the parachutes to match stock every time I DL a new version of Tantares because the settings as they come open the parachutes far too abruptly and cause g-force issues if your difficulty is turned up.

		minAirPressureToOpen = 0.04
		deployAltitude = 1000
		deploymentSpeed = 0.12
		semiDeploymentSpeed = 0.5	

-Left and right Solar Panels?  That solution works.  And I like the look too.

-Separate Heat Shield?  I like that too.  Is it possible to make that stageable?  Or if there is a reason why it isn't already, would you be receptive to the idea of making the staging enableable in the VAB?

-For Tantares LV, have you considered making the soyuz LV available at earlier areas of the tech tree?  You can avoid making them OP by using part upgrades so that the earlier engines would have less power, efficiency and more mass so that they will not be OP.

-Also Tantares LV, when I stage to the third stage in Soyuz my rocket rotates off to one side.  Am I doing something wrong or is this a known issue?

Hello hello!

Picture is a little muddied here, but to a few questions:

Soyuz without power: This I think should only apply to the two-seater Soyuz (As it has an inbuilt probe core). The Three seat soyuz is a standard capsule.

Parachutes: Thanks I will fix that!

Heatshield: Sure I guess this can be done, I am a little forgetful sometimes.

Soyuz LV: Yes, good idea.

Third stage issue: I am not sure here, sorry.

16 hours ago, TK-313 said:

Meanwhile...

If you're like me and like to fly the FGB as it was designed (i.e. its big lower command pod doubling as a fairing base), but, like me, you totally don't like fumbling around and clipping parts into each other, here is a little something for you:

@PART[Alniyat_Crew_1]:NEEDS[TantaresLV]
{
MODULE
{
	name = ModuleProceduralFairing
	
	nSides = 48
	nArcs = 2
	nCollidersPerXSection = 9
	TextureURL = TantaresLV/Parts/LLV/fairings_diff
	
	panelGrouping = 3
	pivot = 0,-0.0625,0
	axis = 0,-1,0
	
	baseRadius = 1.25
	maxRadius = 3
	capRadius = 0.15
	snapThreshold = 0.1
	
	xSectionHeightMin = 0.3
	xSectionHeightMax = 3
	
	edgeSlide = 0.15
	edgeWarp = 0.02
	noseTip = 0.5
	
	UnitAreaMass = 0.012
	UnitAreaCost = 12
	
	stagingToggleEnabledEditor = True
	stagingToggleEnabledFlight = False
	stagingEnableText = Fairing Not Staged
	stagingDisableText = Fairing Staged

	useClamshell = True
}
}

Copy it, paste it, save it as a cfg, use it! TKS fairing, completely hassle-free!

Now your TKS will be smooth and shiny

 

2 hours ago, CobaltWolf said:

@Beale I think you should make that TKS fairing base from @TK-313 a part of stock tantares.

I like the results a lot!

Yes I will do this (The same for Kvant-1 also).

 

[Third_OfFive]

21 hours ago, Beale said:

It's a very kind offer! But there is one in progress already (kind of).

Screenshots?

[Beale]

5 hours ago, Third_OfFive said:

Screenshots?

If you really want to see at such an early stage:

 

Docking ports!

But what about Zvezda!

Edited January 16, 2018 by Beale

[Third_OfFive]

4 hours ago, Beale said:

If you really want to see at such an early stage:

Mine's better 

[steedcrugeon]

3 hours ago, Third_OfFive said:

Mine's better 

Objection! this is mere speculation. Besides, MINE's better :

Please note that liberal sarcasm has been applied to this topic post...

[Beale]

Male port.

[Beale]

Github
Get them here.

The FGB parts received a small update to make the models brighter and to match the new MIR parts in colour schemes.

 

[DJ Reonic]

@Beale Are you going to use the old Eridani parts for Salyut and the new ones for Mir?

[Beale]

13 hours ago, DJ Reonic said:

@Beale Are you going to use the old Eridani parts for Salyut and the new ones for Mir?

kind opf

i hav a pl an

Edited January 18, 2018 by Beale

[Deltac]

1 hour ago, Beale said:

i hav a pl an

Does plan involve sending bears into space?

[RaiderMan]

8 hours ago, Beale said:

kind opf

i hav a pl an

..no plan survives first contact with the enemy.

[Deltac]

25 minutes ago, RaiderMan said:

..no plan survives first contact with the enemy.

but what if you don't have plan?  hmm...

[DJ Reonic]

7 minutes ago, Deltac said:

but what if you don't have plan?  hmm...

Then you don't survive first contact with the enemy.

[RaiderMan]

1 hour ago, DJ Reonic said:

Then you don't survive first contact with the enemy.

improvise, adapt, survive.

[Damon]

14 hours ago, Deltac said:

but what if you don't have plan?  hmm...

Running around in circles.

[debaker02]

5 hours ago, damonvv said:

Running around in circles.

Surprisingly effective plan

[Beale]

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