[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [16.1][28.05.2024][Mars Expedition WIP]

[Beale]

14 hours ago, CompetitiveSpycrab said:

Are the Virgo LOK parts going to be updated as well?

Right now, unfortunately the answer has to be no. That being said, they still do match decently well - since the LOK parts were already blanketed

[Kaleta]

Okay I am super hyped for the upcoming Soyuz revamp! In fact, I was going to start on an ISS re-creation (and i mean like FULL recreation, one module at a time!) but as soon as I heard about the new update, I'll be delaying that a bit back. 

Another thing, this is just some ideas for the far future (like future after all the revamping and stuff), Any plans on an Orel spacecraft? Along with my planned ISS re-creation, I was kinda thinking on building my own take on the ROSS idea, but it doesn't feel right to create a modern prototype of ROSS without Orel. Of course by all means this is no pressure, as I stated earlier this is just an idea for like a year or two into the future (unless you move onto modding KSP2 or stop modding altogether)

Before I go, just wanted to share my plans for my KSP save. Yes, I know everything is way out of whack in terms of timelines but I have my own little documents listing the times and stuff. Currently, I have done.... Sputnik (used RN for that though), Mercury Redstone (with jeb!), Mercury Atlas (with bob!), Apollo 10 kinda (pretty much apollo 10 but no LM detach and abort rehearsal), Apollo 11 (Flown by Jeb, Bob, and Bill! sorry bill, but LM wont fit more than 2 kerbals), Gemini, Gemini MOL (except a little different, no camera so that the koviets dont think we are spying on them), Skylab, Apollo Lunar Base (pretty much a refitted LM chucked on the mun and called a 'base'), Voyager Mars (ik this is tantares forum but i love the bdb devs for this), and finally: Venera (i forget which one it is but basically the little lander thingo). Here are my planned stuff: ISS (full pain mode; each module launched as it was irl), MORL (weird skylab gemini station thing), S-IVB Skylab (i forget the name but yeah), Dynasoar (because heck yeah i want a cool USAF space plane docked to a Gemini space station (or maybe MORL)), ROSS (very interesting concept, also the designs kind of remind me of Tiangong), Salyut (probably just 1 and maybe one of the ones with 2 docking ports, maybe even almaz idk), Vostok and Voskhod (idk how i let myself launch apollo before vostok), Tiangong (both tiangong 1 and the new ...Tiangong. yeah the naming is kind of weird), Zond (using RN for this), N1-L3 launches (multiple i want to do, mainly a failure (with launch abort and crew), an LK landing and maybe a little test flight in low kerbin orbit), Mir (like ISS, each module launched seperately. only i dont have to mess around with the Canardarm for like 4 hours), and finally, LK-700 landing on minmus. (decided to go with minmus because already doing and done plenty on mun, plus haven't landed on it since i installed parallax 2.0) ......And thats all folks! stuff i have planned is probably going to take like a few months to do, I will try to remember to post a thread with a bunch of pictures and explanations

[Beale]

7 hours ago, Kaleta said:

Another thing, this is just some ideas for the far future (like future after all the revamping and stuff), Any plans on an Orel spacecraft? Along with my planned ISS re-creation, I was kinda thinking on building my own take on the ROSS idea, but it doesn't feel right to create a modern prototype of ROSS without Orel. Of course by all means this is no pressure, as I stated earlier this is just an idea for like a year or two into the future (unless you move onto modding KSP2 or stop modding altogether)

Respectfully, I think the Russian space program is a joke, and currently in little more than a managed decline, and I won't really be touching anything beyond the 80s.

 

 

In lighter news,

[MashAndBangers]

Just now, Beale said:

the 80s.

Spoiler

 

[Beale]

hey look more

It's on Github too.

Edited June 27, 2023 by Beale

[Beale]

Pick 1

[Richmountain112]

Just now, Beale said:

Pick 1

I'll go for the brown one.

[Aerothecat]

having a problem when downloading the mod, it keeps saying that i have a unexpected error for the a1_cream DDS File
 

Edited June 27, 2023 by Aerothecat

[MashAndBangers]

2 hours ago, Beale said:

I like this beige one, matches the MIR insulation colors.

[Royalswissarmyknife]

3 hours ago, Beale said:

Pick 1


 

This one I think Theres not many things that look alike so its very unique 

also the white ones are just too American for me 

And the others are too similar to the base Soyuz

Spoiler

Hot Pink Soyuz when?

 

[septemberWaves]

The orange one is probably my favourite.

[Blufor878]

8 hours ago, Beale said:

Pick 1

Everyone else picking their favorite color. I'm just gonna say yes and prepare myself.

[Jim123]

21 hours ago, Beale said:

Respectfully, I think the Russian space program is a joke, and currently in little more than a managed decline, and I won't really be touching anything beyond the 80s.

 

 

In lighter news,

It is really sad to see ROSCOSMOS in the state it is in now compared to what they used to be.

[DeadJohn]

18 hours ago, Beale said:

Pick 1

Medium tan & white, 3rd from the top.

Tan is not commonly used by other mods and feels distinctively Tantares. It has good contrast with your white portions yet the tan remains light enough to see when on the shadowed side of Kerbin.

 

[AZZlyTheAZZome]

20 hours ago, Beale said:

The brown one, since apparently the Space Station Freedom ACRV Soyuz, was going to be brown.

However, I got this fact from Intercolor, and I don't know how true it is.

[Royalswissarmyknife]

Will we also get a Revamped Salyut-1 or Salyut-7?

[Falcon Aerospace]

there was a 1.5m patch for the Soyuz rocket but I can't see it

[Cheesecake]

1 hour ago, Falcon Aerospace said:

there was a 1.5m patch for the Soyuz rocket but I can't see it

It´s in folder GameData\TantaresLV\parts\SOYUZ and named _b9.cfg.disabled. You need to delete the .disabled to make it a .cfg. Also you need B9PartSwitch.

[MashAndBangers]

A little oddity, the Zarya solar panels aren't in the github repo, only in the latest release on github.

[M - Kerbonaut]

I got a sound bug at most of the TantaresLV Engines When Persistent Thrust is installed. There is sound but its a indescribable noise. The bug appeas allways and changing the Persistent Thrust settings at the engine dont make a difrence

[Transformatron]

Beale, earlier in this thread someone expressed scaling up the new soyuz to 1.5m in diameter. A soyuz's main diameter of 2.2 becomes 1.375, which happens to be exactly in the middle of 1.25 and 1.5m. I believe 1.5 was suggested as a few parts in BDB use this diameter (Delta ii, Gemini capsule). I did some comparisons with other craft in ksp so people could share their opinions. 

Baseline comparison:

 

Salyut:

 

ASTP:

 

Personally I think I prefer the oversized soyuz a bit more but the specific situation makes a difference in which looks better (I think the smaller one looks better on the rear salyut docking port lol).

[Royalswissarmyknife]

1 hour ago, Transformatron said:

Beale, earlier in this thread someone expressed scaling up the new soyuz to 1.5m in diameter. A soyuz's main diameter of 2.2 becomes 1.375, which happens to be exactly in the middle of 1.25 and 1.5m. I believe 1.5 was suggested as a few parts in BDB use this diameter (Delta ii, Gemini capsule). I did some comparisons with other craft in ksp so people could share their opinions. 

Baseline comparison:

 

Salyut:

 

ASTP:

 

Personally I think I prefer the oversized soyuz a bit more but the specific situation makes a difference in which looks better (I think the smaller one looks better on the rear salyut docking port lol).

they both look off but I think oversized is better for ATSP

[MashAndBangers]

1 hour ago, Transformatron said:

Baseline comparison:

So with this comparison, looks like if you upscale the Soyuz, you have to upscale the Salyut/Mir/Rus ISS modules.  And then the Soyuz rocket.  And then the Proton.  And maybe some of the payloads for each like Sputnik and the luna probes.  And and and...

Not sure how Beale feels, but I can see where a headache might start.

[Transformatron]

28 minutes ago, MashAndBangers said:

So with this comparison, looks like if you upscale the Soyuz, you have to upscale the Salyut/Mir/Rus ISS modules.  And then the Soyuz rocket.  And then the Proton.  And maybe some of the payloads for each like Sputnik and the luna probes.  And and and...

Not sure how Beale feels, but I can see where a headache might start.

I tried with a soyuz scaled to 1.35 (would post but KSP crashed my computer as I am typing this) and as might be obvious the correct scale looked the best. I didn't suggest it initially because I was responding to the previous mention of an upscale and because 1.375 is not a standard size. Personally, I would not mind the off sizing for soyuz such that it looks better but I understand beale may not want to do that (with either scale up Soyuz is no longer Tanares size 1).

[Kaleta]

On 6/28/2023 at 2:48 AM, Beale said:

Respectfully, I think the Russian space program is a joke, and currently in little more than a managed decline, and I won't really be touching anything beyond the 80s.

I agree with the fact that Roscosmos is nothing but a rollercoaster with no brakes that's reached the top, but it is kind of sad you won't really do anything beyond the 80s. Anyway, your work on the Soyuz is absolutely amazing! I am still quite excited for any more updates.