HebaruSan Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 8:42 PM, cantab said: No, because travelling from Low Kerbin Orbit to Mun or Minmus, or to just escape Kerbin's SOI, there aren't any transfer windows. There are, they just happen every 30 minutes or so. A trip to Minmus is just as much a Hohmann transfer within Kerbin's SOI as a trip to Duna is within solar SOI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Pechtel Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, HebaruSan said: There are, they just happen every 30 minutes or so. A trip to Minmus is just as much a Hohmann transfer within Kerbin's SOI as a trip to Duna is within solar SOI. A "transfer window" normally refers to a situation where you have three bodies involved. The math is imprecise and much more complex than what you are thinking of with a Hohmann transfer. For a Hohmann transfer you simply need to find when you're at a point directly opposite where your target will be in half an orbit. (If that gives a negative solution you missed it, look for the next such point.) Things like Transfer Window Planner and the similar functionality in MechJeb, however, are looking at a more complex problem. 1) Your target is in another SOI. The simple math of a Hohmann calculation won't give the burn you need. 2) As there are three bodies involved (the ship, the starting planet, the arrival planet) there almost certainly isn't a perfect solution. At the point your planets are lined up perfectly it's almost certain your ship is not. Thus, rather than a simple equation that spits out one answer you have a much more complex equation that must be tested over a whole range of values in order to find acceptable missions. For a Hohmann burn the fuel use for a non-optimal burn goes up very rapidly as you get away from the optimum, you're going to want to do such burns as close to perfect as you can. For an interplanetary burn the penalty goes up much slower, in general waiting around for your spacecraft to reach the correct point in it's orbit for the burn is going to have a very minor penalty. (However, if you're orbiting near the edge of Eeloo's SOI and try to burn for Moho the error is so big you might as well forget about it--exit Eeloo's SOI on the inward side and then do it as a Hohmann maneuver.) You can even send a fleet doing it one spacecraft per orbit without a big penalty. (Just make sure their arrival times are also staggered as you can only fly one craft at once!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HebaruSan Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Loren Pechtel said: Yes, I know, I wrote a mod to do all of this (the left image link in my signature). The point remains that a transfer window calculator can handle LKO->Minmus transfers if it so chooses (as mine in fact does). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerAu Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 A new version of this recompiled against 1.7.x with various fixes from myself and helpful community peeps is now available Download from GitHub or Download from Curse or Download from SpaceDock Recompile for 1.7.x Fixed display issues when transfer was impossible - result was NaN (Issue #53) Fixed up some Date Formatting (Thanks to @Aelfhe1m - Issue #51) Fixed up some altitude swapping (Thanks to nanathan - Issue #50) Fixed up some issues with the anglerendering (Thanks to codesquid - Issue #49) Fixed up some issues with drawing angles when not in the right scene Fixed issues with clamptoscreen for window Updated KACWrapper Added some ClickThrough locks for TS scene Fixed updated version check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twidget_Gray Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Some issue found me after upgrading from 1.6.3.0 to 1.7 Issues: M key does not work to go into map mode. If try an exit the game it just hangs such that I have to end ksp via task scheduler. Going back to 1.6.3.0 removes the issue. Updated via CKAN I miss not having this mod is the final issue. I love it. Also there was no "The plugin records troubleshooting data in the "<KSP_OS>\KSP_Data\output_log.txt"." I think that my be rerelated to the fact my ksp has "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\KSP_x64_Data" and may be the plug is trying to write to a location that does not exists. Scan of all files under ksp did not find a "output_log.txt" See I read your doc's ;-) Installed mods: "name": "ModuleManager" "name": "CraftManager" "name": "KerbalEngineerRedux" "name": "PreciseManeuver" "name": "KXAPI" "name": "BetterBurnTime" "name": "RCSBuildAidCont" "name": "ClickThroughBlocker" "name": "ToolbarController" "name": "DraggableNavball" "name": "KerbalAlarmClock" "name": "TriggerAu-Flags" "name": "FinalFrontier" "name": "PortraitStats" "name": "CommunityTraitIcons" "name": "WaypointManager" "name": "IndicatorLights" "name": "ASETAgency" "name": "FlagPack" "name": "LSPFlags" "name": "OrbitsUSFlagPack" "name": "AntennaHelper" "name": "BasicDeltaV" "name": "EasyVesselSwitch" "name": "ReentryParticleEffect" "name": "NavHudRenewed" "name": "ReStock" "name": "unBlur" "name": "PhoenixIndustriesFlags" "name": "Trajectories" name": "StationPartsExpansionRedux" name": "B9PartSwitch" name": "NearFutureProps" name": "CrowdSourcedFlags" name": "CanadianFlags" name": "RealPlume-StockConfigs" name": "RealPlume" name": "SmokeScreen" name": "LightsOutRelit" name": "PlanetWiki" name": "KSP-AVC" name": "CameraFocusChanger" name": "ScienceSituationInfo" Edited August 25, 2019 by Twidget_Gray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTourist Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Twidget_Gray said: Some issue found me after upgrading from 1.6.3.0 to 1.7 Issues: M key does not work to go into map mode. If try an exit the game it just hangs such that I have to end ksp via task scheduler. I'm also having those issues In addition, planetary graphics were affected and the button for Trajectories would not spawn its window. I'll try and post more data when I get time Edited August 25, 2019 by GameTourist add image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerAu Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 Darn, thats no fun, and yes saw the bit about reading the docs The log file moved a while ago, you can findit on windows in this path C:\Users\username\AppData\LocalLow\Squad\KerbalSpaceProgram\Player.log or very close to that. If your not on windows the other OS paths arelisted in this article: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/LogFiles.html Usually can find the cause in that one, or KSP.log in the game folder f cant find that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex6511 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Hey Trigger, I am having some problems too. My full log is too big to post on pastebin or the forums, if you have somewhere I can put it let me know, but here's the errors I found: Spoiler [EXC 18:38:38.529] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.530] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object GalaxyCubeControl.LineOfSightToSun () GalaxyCubeControl.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.533] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.533] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.533] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.533] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.533] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.533] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () Sun.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.534] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_rotation () FollowRot.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.543] NullReferenceException SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.543] NullReferenceException SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.544] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.544] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.544] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.545] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object GalaxyCubeControl.LineOfSightToSun () GalaxyCubeControl.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.547] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.547] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.548] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.548] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.548] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.548] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () Sun.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.548] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_rotation () FollowRot.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.561] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.562] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.562] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.562] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.562] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.562] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.562] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.562] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.562] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.562] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.563] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.563] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.563] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.563] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.563] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.563] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object GalaxyCubeControl.LineOfSightToSun () GalaxyCubeControl.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.567] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.568] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.568] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.568] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.568] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.568] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () Sun.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.569] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_rotation () FollowRot.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.578] NullReferenceException SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.578] NullReferenceException SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.579] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.579] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.579] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.579] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.579] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.579] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.579] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.580] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.580] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.580] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.580] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.580] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.580] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.580] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.580] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.580] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object GalaxyCubeControl.LineOfSightToSun () GalaxyCubeControl.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.582] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.582] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.583] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.583] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.583] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.583] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () Sun.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.583] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_rotation () FollowRot.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.594] NullReferenceException SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.594] NullReferenceException SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.595] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.596] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.596] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.596] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.596] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.596] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.596] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.596] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.596] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.596] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.597] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.597] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.597] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.597] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.597] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.597] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object GalaxyCubeControl.LineOfSightToSun () GalaxyCubeControl.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.601] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.602] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.602] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.602] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.602] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.602] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () Sun.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.603] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_rotation () FollowRot.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.616] NullReferenceException SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.616] NullReferenceException SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.617] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.617] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.617] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.617] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScaledSpaceFader.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.618] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object GalaxyCubeControl.LineOfSightToSun () GalaxyCubeControl.Update () [EXC 18:38:38.626] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.626] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.626] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.626] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.627] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () AtmosphereFromGround.UpdateAtmosphere (Boolean updateAll) AtmosphereFromGround.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.627] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () Sun.LateUpdate () [EXC 18:38:38.627] NullReferenceException UnityEngine.Transform.get_rotation () FollowRot.LateUpdate () Here's a list of mods: Spoiler Mod DLLs found: Stock assembly: Assembly-CSharp v0.0.0.0 ModuleManager v4.0.3.0 MiniAVC v1.2.0.6 ClickThroughBlocker v0.1.7.2 / v1.0.0.0 MiniAVC v1.2.0.6 ToolbarControl v0.1.8.2 / v1.0.0.0 MiniAVC v1.0.3.2 Sigma88LoadingScreens v0.4.0.0 DistantObject v1.9.1.14505 Atmosphere v1.4.2.2 CelestialShadows v1.4.2.2 CityLights v1.4.2.2 EVEManager v1.4.2.2 PartFX v1.4.2.2 PQSManager v1.4.2.2 ShaderLoader v1.4.2.2 Terrain v1.4.2.2 TextureConfig v1.4.2.2 Utils v1.4.2.2 _BuildManager v1.4.2.2 KerbalEngineer v1.1.6.0 KerbalEngineer.Unity v1.0.0.0 MiniAVC v1.0.3.2 MechJeb2 v2.5.1.0 / v / v2.8.4.0 MiniAVC v1.2.0.6 SCANsat v1.8.13.0 / vv18.13 SCANmechjeb v1.8.13.0 / vv18.13 SCANsat.Unity v1.8.13.0 scatterer v0.0.0.0 MiniAVC v1.2.0.6 ScienceAlert v1.9.7.0 Stock assembly: KSPSteamCtrlr v0.0.1.35 TextureReplacer v3.7.0.41147 KerbalAlarmClock v3.10.0.0 TransferWindowPlanner v1.7.1.0 MiniAVC v1.0.3.0 [x] Science! v5.22.7074.4176 Folders and files in GameData: 000_ClickThroughBlocker 000_Toolbar 001_ToolbarControl AstronomersVisualPack ContractConfigurator DistantObject EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements KerbalEngineer MechJeb2 MechJebForAll SCANsat scatterer ScienceAlert Stock folder: Squad Stock folder: SquadExpansion TextureReplacer TriggerTech [x] Science! ModuleManager.4.0.3.dll ModuleManager.ConfigCache ModuleManager.ConfigSHA ModuleManager.Physics ModuleManager.TechTree toolbar-settings.dat Let me know if I can do anything else to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Hi, The latest update is crashing my game!!!! What happens that at some point possible when switching scenes, the game starts generating an endless number of Null Reference Exceptions. I traced to this mod (which was recently updated) and have two log files here, one which was without TWP and was fine, the second was with TWP and has all the errors: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a645kokhoupowzp/TWP_Logs.zip?dl=0 I did this on stream on Sunday, Aug 25, here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/472362870 The two logs were generated at approximately 2 hours, 16-18 minutes into the stream. The test I was running was to get into a new game and to fly an airplane and crash it into a building (for entertainment purposes). There is a NullRef there from ActionGroupManager, it's a harmless nullref which was ruled out by removing the mod and the problem continued to occur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerAu Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 thanks all Ill difin tonight afer work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 11 hours ago, TriggerAu said: thanks all Ill difin tonight afer work Took me a while, but what I think you wanted to say was: "Thanks all, I'll debug tonight after work" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twidget_Gray Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Thanks for all the work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadrush Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I second this issue. At first I was pointing the finger to Kerbal Enginner and some possible change on module manager. But today the only mods that i installed were this one and few USI from roverdude. I spent most of my free time today running some tests. After I removed this mod the game started to work normally again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangdog Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Same issue here, and just narrowed it down to this. You guys beat me to it. Maps not able to load, rotating right-drag around the active craft instead rotated the craft (and the distant planets, oddly, from the Distant Object Enhancement mod). Also a waypoint flag in white centered on the craft. Going back to 1.6.3 for now, thanks for hard work and efforts to improve. I had let CKAN do the updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmannNG Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Spent the last day of summer vacation figuring out what was breaking my game. That's not a complaint though, as I gained some good experience troubleshooting a log file and learning what a Null Reference Exception was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGonzo94 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Same experience. I tried playing a new Galileo game, and thought the old mods were doing the crashing. Turns out it was TWP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacemotion Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Same here. It looks like this when it crashes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptus Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Same problem. Same (temporary) solution: Uninstall and wait for this *invaluable tool* to be updated. For now, I'll go back to this: https://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/ Thanks in advance for the upcoming hotfix TriggerAu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlrk Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Also having the shower of NREs after switching scenes. The previous version of TWP worked fine though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerbMav Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Raptus said: Same problem. Same (temporary) solution: Uninstall and wait for this *invaluable tool* to be updated. For now, I'll go back to this: https://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/ Thanks in advance for the upcoming hotfix TriggerAu. Doesnt Alarm Clock offer something similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draqsko Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) @TriggerAu Output log where it seems to start breaking: Quote StnSciScenario started (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) 8/27/2019 8:48:22 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Vessel Change from 'No Vessel' to 'Vanguard 1' (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) 8/27/2019 8:48:22 PM,KSPAlternateResourcePanel,Response Length:38 (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) 8/27/2019 8:48:22 PM,KSPAlternateResourcePanel,Got Version '2.9.3.0' (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) 8/27/2019 8:48:22 PM,KSPAlternateResourcePanel,Version Check result:Success (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) NullReferenceException at (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.Component:get_transform () at SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 (Filename: Line: -1) NullReferenceException at (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.Component:get_transform () at SunCoronas.FixedUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 (Filename: Line: -1) NullReferenceException at (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.Transform:INTERNAL_get_position (UnityEngine.Vector3&) at UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at FlightReflectionProbe.GetSkyColor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at FlightReflectionProbe.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 (Filename: Line: -1) NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at Kopernicus.RuntimeUtility.StarLightSwitcher.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 (Filename: Line: -1) NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at Atmosphere.CloudsPQS.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 I have TWP inside blizzy's toolbar, but this didn't appear this weekend until after I updated. Also playfield seems entirely broken, tried to rotate the camera around the ecliptic but didn't see Kerbin or the sun. Of course it was extremely laggy and jumpy with the camera controls so I'm not sure I actually swept a panorama. Hope that helps, I'll save the output if you need more info. Edited August 28, 2019 by draqsko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmannNG Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Raptus said: Same problem. Same (temporary) solution: Uninstall and wait for this *invaluable tool* to be updated. For now, I'll go back to this: https://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/ Thanks in advance for the upcoming hotfix TriggerAu. Hey @Raptus, I just reverted back to TWP v1.6.3.0 and it is working as normal! In case you already deleted that zip file, you can re-download it from Spacedock under the Changelog tab. Happy transfers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajburges Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) Trying to be useful with my cry of same issue: Looks like the icons are way point icons. My mod list: Community Trait Icons CorrectCOL KER KerbNetController Docking Port Alignment Indicator PartAngleDisplay [x] Science! PreciseNode RCS buiild aid Trajectories KAC TransferWindowPlanner WaypointManager (given that the icons are waypoints this seems prime for conflicts) WindTunnel Edit: looks like it doesn't play nice with way-points. The save lost almost all my custom way-points. I needed to revert saves after downgrading the mod. Edited August 28, 2019 by ajburges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallHaxx Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) Good lord, I spent two days trying to figure out what was borking my game. And of course as soon as I do: bam, a bunch of people saying the exact things I was googling on wednesday, to no avail. (thanks google) I had been updating and modifying mods for compatibility (restock+TU recolor) and though I had fouled the works somehow. Now, on a lighter note, here is the KSC flying through the galaxy: https://imgur.com/a/OK0cuBJ Edited August 30, 2019 by WallHaxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephalopodKing Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I have the same issue, this is my list of other mods installed, I highlighted some that I saw other people mention that have the issue: NearFutureConstructionKerbalAlarmClock RetractableLiftingSurfaceKerbalEngineerRedux ToolbarController SpaceY-Expanded SpaceY-Lifters StationPartsExpansionRedux CryoEngines InterstellarFuelSwitch-Core FlagPack SmartParts TexturesUnlimited MemGraph FirespitterCore TriggerAu-Flags TACLS CommunityCategoryKit CommunityResourcePack ClickThroughBlocker OhScrap CommunityTechTree B9PartSwitch NearFuturePropulsion StageRecovery ScrapYard StationPartsExpansion ReStockPlus ReStock QuickExit QuickGoTo NearFutureElectrical-DecayingRTGs JanitorsCloset NearFuturePropsKAS REPOSoftTech-Agencies AlternateResourcePanel AmpYearPowerManager DarkSideTechnology DockRotate KerbalAtomics TundraExploration LithobrakeExplorationTechnologies NearFutureElectrical-Core FuelTanksPlus ModularRocketSystemsLITE SpaceXLegs TankLockRedux ProceduralFairings BetterTimeWarpCont Targetron KRASHPreciseNode CrewQueueTwo Toolbar NearFutureSpacecraft KerbalConstructionTime TrackingStationEvolvedTrajectories MagiCore DeepFreeze MainSailorTextures-Fairings BDAnimationModules RecoveryController MainSailorTextures-Essentials BetterBurnTime RasterPropMonitor ShipManifest TweakscaleMakingHistoryConfigs DeployableEngines RasterPropMonitor-Core ShowFPS CryoTanks-Core NearFutureSolar CryoTanks FreedomTex GammaTextures HeatControl TundraTechnologies FMRSContinued SmokeScreen ProceduralParts NearFutureSolar-Core NearFutureElectrical DynamicBatteryStorage NearFutureSpacecraft-OrbitalLFOEngines KerbalChangelog KerbalPlanetaryBaseSystems TransferWindowPlanner NearFutureLaunchVehicles AdvancedTextures Scatterer Scatterer-config Scatterer-sunflare EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements-HR DecouplerShroud ModularFlightIntegrator InternalRCS AnimatedDecouplers AGExt CommunityTraitIcons KerbalowAerospace EasyVesselSwitchKIS surfacelights UniversalStorage2 CraftHistory KerboKatzUtilities KerboKatzSmallUtilities TweakScale MechJebForAll MechJeb2 BackgroundResources FullAutoStrut HullcamVDSContinued RealPlume-StockConfigs RealPlume Kopernicus Chatterer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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