Drakenex Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just updated BDB Now in Colors, come and get some new skins by @Invaderchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golkaidakhaana Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Is it just me or are most Atlas parts rotated 90 degrees as of the latest dev build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invaderchaos Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 3:35 AM, sslaptnhablhat said: Is it just me or are most Atlas parts rotated 90 degrees as of the latest dev build? Expand Yea, I saw that on github Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkpaz Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 3:35 AM, sslaptnhablhat said: Is it just me or are most Atlas parts rotated 90 degrees as of the latest dev build? Expand On 4/25/2020 at 3:37 AM, Invaderchaos said: Yea, I saw that on github Expand what's the point of that other then messing up our craft files? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golkaidakhaana Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 3:51 AM, zakkpaz said: what's the point of that other then messing up our craft files? Expand Chill out, it's probably just a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranceaddicT Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 7:50 PM, Morphisor said: Expand Okay, what is this launcher? I really want my sounding rockets to launch off this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkpaz Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 sorry that was rude, i'm just butthurt about having to fix a dozen craft files and it's not accidental, the the notes mention it specifically https://github.com/CobaltWolf/Bluedog-Design-Bureau/commit/bbb129bdc5c82d96e4c94eaf17bbca5fe5e2352f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invaderchaos Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 3:57 AM, TranceaddicT said: Okay, what is this launcher? I really want my sounding rockets to launch off this. Expand I'm not 100% sure but it appears to be tweakscaled stock (with restock) parts, with that red base being a tantares part, perhaps on a breaking ground joint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) On 4/25/2020 at 3:51 AM, zakkpaz said: what's the point of that other then messing up our craft files? Expand On 4/25/2020 at 3:53 AM, sslaptnhablhat said: Chill out, it's probably just a mistake. Expand Making it so they respect the proper VAB (and thus navball) orientation. It was an overdue fix; I wasn't paying attention to it until recently. EDIT: It's real melatonin hours but I realized I should explain more. What we're trying to fix is, for example, if you build Mercury - that follows the navball orientation. The window is "up" if you're flying prograde above a planet. If you build it proper like that, the Atlas would have been 90 degrees off. So you either have to rotate the whole LV 90 degrees under the payload, or deal with it being... well, wrong Titan had the same problem. Edited April 25, 2020 by CobaltWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golkaidakhaana Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 3:58 AM, zakkpaz said: sorry that was rude, i'm just butthurt about having to fix a dozen craft files and it's not accidental, the the notes mention it specifically https://github.com/CobaltWolf/Bluedog-Design-Bureau/commit/bbb129bdc5c82d96e4c94eaf17bbca5fe5e2352f Expand What an odd change ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jso Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 3:58 AM, zakkpaz said: sorry that was rude, i'm just butthurt about having to fix a dozen craft files and it's not accidental, the the notes mention it specifically https://github.com/CobaltWolf/Bluedog-Design-Bureau/commit/bbb129bdc5c82d96e4c94eaf17bbca5fe5e2352f Expand Sorry about that. It was getting old rotating Atlas on every build. Some Centaur and Titan parts are getting rotated as well so don't spend too much time rebuilding craft files right now. Please when you do rebuild them use fresh parts from the pallet, since craft files cache a lot of information and won't pickup a lot of not very obvious changes. On 4/25/2020 at 4:01 AM, sslaptnhablhat said: What an odd change ... Expand It's so it flys in the correct attitude. Boosters arranged vertically, verniers on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphisor Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 3:57 AM, TranceaddicT said: Okay, what is this launcher? I really want my sounding rockets to launch off this. Expand On 4/25/2020 at 3:59 AM, Invaderchaos said: I'm not 100% sure but it appears to be tweakscaled stock (with restock) parts, with that red base being a tantares part, perhaps on a breaking ground joint? Expand You got a good eye there, it is indeed a kit I slapped together using stock parts and a Tantares base to make it look it's actually holding something together. Nothing fancy (yet), though there's some real potential once I do unlock some basic robotics, to do a more fancy version. Other than that, I think Alpha may have mentioned considering a sounding rocket guide rail for the MLP mod, so maybe ask him nicely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Playing around with the new BDB in colours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesecake Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 The Fenris 1500-1700 Upper Tank has 3 different lengths (long, extended, extra extended) but ingame the extended Tank has the same lenght as the long tank, only more fuel. The same with the Fenris 1300-2300 Lower Tank: Base Tank and Long tank has the same lenght and the same amount of fuel. The extended and extra extended Tank have the same lenght but different amount of fuel. Is this intended or an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 10:15 AM, Cheesecake said: The Fenris 1500-1700 Upper Tank has 3 different lengths (long, extended, extra extended) but ingame the extended Tank has the same lenght as the long tank, only more fuel. The same with the Fenris 1300-2300 Lower Tank: Base Tank and Long tank has the same lenght and the same amount of fuel. The extended and extra extended Tank have the same lenght but different amount of fuel. Is this intended or an issue? Expand No thats not right but further changes are coming as Cobalt is trying to sort out the thor delta tank lengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndiver Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Hello, I've installed BDB 1.7 for test for History of Spaceflight Contract Pack. I get a large error message while loading KSP, is it the place to share that for the 1.7 development version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 9:30 AM, Zorg said: Playing around with the new BDB in colours Expand Hiya -- are these lovlies taken with 1.8.1/jnsq/tufx/no scatterer? Asking because I see clouds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 2:03 PM, OrbitalManeuvers said: Hiya -- are these lovlies taken with 1.8.1/jnsq/tufx/no scatterer? Asking because I see clouds. Expand 1.8.1, JNSQ, TUFX with Scaterrer. On 4/25/2020 at 11:51 AM, ndiver said: Hello, I've installed BDB 1.7 for test for History of Spaceflight Contract Pack. I get a large error message while loading KSP, is it the place to share that for the 1.7 development version? Expand What kind of error? I suspect its the B9 part switch warning caused either by an incorrect install or out of date dependencies. Make sure everything is installed correctly with the most up to date dependencies (included on the github repository). Please also note that BDB dev 1.7 is for KSP 1.8.1 and above only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 2:04 PM, Zorg said: 1.8.1, JNSQ, TUFX with Scaterrer. Expand OK cool - I was thrown off by the warnings on the tufx page about incompatibility with scatterer, but the spoils go to the brave i guess. Gonna give this setup a try today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 2:08 PM, OrbitalManeuvers said: OK cool - I was thrown off by the warnings on the tufx page about incompatibility with scatterer, but the spoils go to the brave i guess. Gonna give this setup a try today. Expand Its a little ambiguous. TUFX was developed specifically for KSP 1.9 and some features (HDR rendering or somesuch) dont work in KSP 1.8.1. Most however are fine although officially 1.8.1 is unsupported. The incompatibility was more about Scaterrer and Eve not being updated for 1.9. Howerver on KSP 1.8.1 TUFX, Scaterrer and EVE all play nice with each other far as I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndiver Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) On 4/25/2020 at 2:04 PM, Zorg said: What kind of error? I suspect its the B9 part switch warning caused either by an incorrect install or out of date dependencies. Make sure everything is installed correctly with the most up to date dependencies (included on the github repository). Please also note that BDB dev 1.7 is for KSP 1.8.1 and above only. Expand Indeed, the errors refer to the B9 Part Switch, I will retest as you said. It was that ! Thank you for your help And yes, i'm on the 1.8.1 Edited April 25, 2020 by ndiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 4:43 AM, Jso said: It's so it flys in the correct attitude. Boosters arranged vertically, verniers on the side. Expand Wait what? All my life I thought that 1.5-stage Atlases flew with boosters arranged horizontally, like any other rocket with two side-mounted boosters, because that's what aerodynamics suggest. Live and learn, I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 In case anyone else was wondering about TUFX too ... I installed it into a working 1.8.1 JNSQ install with both eve and scatterer, and haven't seen any problems. Below are pics of 3 different presets that are installed by default. Not showing Zorg's presets until I can do them justice ... but here are 3 of the default ones: Reveal hidden contents You really have to seem them full size to see any significant difference - but all three look pretty nice by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphisor Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Users of the dev branch may find that 2 new BDB missions have been added to the set, to perform unmanned and manned landings on non-atmospheric bodies. Ranger Block 2 asks the player to successfully execute the intended mission of Ranger 3-5, performing science on approach of a moon and dropping off the rough lander probe. The existing Ranger mission must be completed first; some of the experiments from that mission have been moved to this new one, to properly differentiate between block 1 and block 2 parts and missions. The Apollo mission should be fairly obvious in what's intended. Don't think it will be an easy 'land on x and return' mission though, you will be asked to follow the profile of the Apollo 15/16 missions, including a separate surface lander and return to main spacecraft and a separate sub-satellite launch. It looks a little daunting in mission control, but frankly so does the real thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Interesting images I thought you might be interested in: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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