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1 hour ago, Mr. Kerbin said:

i got a 502

but I read loaded the page and it was gone @Lisias

Yep, I got one yesterday too. Apparently, some not exactly friendly 3rd parties are catching up with Forum's new bandwidth.

Overall, however, things are still very positive, look:

This is the event map for the last week of the December (less colored points is better, none is optimal!)

20250103.Events.png

And this is the one for the first week of January (essentially, until yesterday):

20250108.Events.png

See how they are slowly coming back to hammer Forum?

On a side note, yesterday my site was hammered by one of these <piiiii>. :mad: I wonder if they are the same ones hammering Forum.

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On 1/7/2025 at 2:39 AM, Superfluous J said:

It implies it, but remember the forum software is apparently registered by the year/month and it's only renewed until either March or September 2025, depending on if you only believe the forum post, or trust hearsay (not throwing shade just using the term as its defined) from a trusted source.

The licence is currently valid until 2 April 2025.

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11 hours ago, Deddly said:

The licence is currently valid until 2 April 2025.

8 hours ago, James Kerman said:

The forum software was only renewed for 6 months as mentioned in this thread:

Thanks for the clarifications.

I welcome our new overlords and hope they see the value in extending the licence :)

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8 hours ago, James Kerman said:

That was me, sorry I have been quite busy lately and I made a mistake. The forum software was only renewed for 6 months as mentioned in this thread:

 

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On 1/8/2025 at 2:19 AM, James Kerman said:

That was me, sorry I have been quite busy lately and I made a mistake. The forum software was only renewed for 6 months as mentioned in this thread:

 

And this is why I trust posts and not someone saying they got a PM.  Nothing against James here - who is a wonderful mod/person, by the way - but Vanamonde's post was the truth of the whole thing.  Which now leaves us less than 3 months until D-Day.

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On 1/8/2025 at 3:52 PM, Linkageless said:

I welcome our new overlords and hope they see the value in extending the licence :)

On a side note, failing to renew the license will  not be the demise of Forum, the software will still be running - but without support or updates.

Not exactly a wise move on the long run, but still not a death sentence.

I remember some clauses about reacquiring the license, there's grace period before completely loosing the license and be forced to acquire a new one from scratch,  etc.

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Hate typing on mobile phones. Fixing the mess.
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Looks like there is some news about the buyout of Private Division:
https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/private-divisions-games-and-franchises-including-kerbal-space-program-are-reportedly-being-taken-over-by-former-annapurna-interactive-employees/

Edit: I'm behind the times, discussion here: 

 

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10 hours ago, Lisias said:

On a side note, failing to renew the license will  not be the demise of Forum, the software will still be running - but without support or updates.

Makes sense.  The licencing can be renewed at any time and why would essentially a new company want to spend out for longer while it's still establishing itself?  Of course, it's going to be a significant cost but not the only one and they have those other operating costs to attend to.

It's likely that the forum runs from a few app frontends and a DB cluster, probably all AWS EC2 and RDS instances, all hidden behind CloudFront.  I'm further speculating that limiting/scaling back of that way have been part of the cause of the issues recently.  (ie - There may have been an unwelcome increase in load, for all I know.)  Perhaps this was not helped by a transfer of ownership in progress, meaning the right people had yet to be assigned to get to grips with the situation.

I'm glad they got there and things are running well again.  To me this shows they (the new owners, as an organisation) not only care but are capable and are attending to it.  I have full confidence that this means they will continue to maintain these forums as long as there's an enthusiastic community. :D

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17 hours ago, Lisias said:

On a side note, failing to renew the license will  not be the demise of Forum, the software will still be running - but without support or updates.

Are you sure of that? In my experience,  you stop paying the license for licensed software,  you stop being able to use that software. 

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4 minutes ago, Superfluous J said:

Are you sure of that? In my experience,  you stop paying the license for licensed software,  you stop being able to use that software. 

See, I think the thing here is that the license may have just been for support and/or updates to the Invision software, and not necessarily the continued use of Invision.  I could be wrong, but that's how I'm reading it.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Kerbin said:

Reporting another 502 right now

I didn't caught this one on my logs. The last one I have registered is:

2025-01-09T23:25:07Z    502 Bad Gateway

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But, yeah, the problems are gradually scaling up again.

I have some hunches about this subject, however. My personal site was badly hammered this week, and since I'm a maniac archivist, I have detailed logs for all the events (and found some more in the past, now that I know what to look).

Let's see if I manage to catch someone's attention without spooking the brats. :)

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6 hours ago, PDCWolf said:

Just experienced a somewhat extended no-response period as well now.

This one happened to me too. It evolved from 502 to 503, and then to 504 before coming back.

On a side note, it looked as some service being rebooted or similar event.

In a way or another, my monitoring caught this one. I will publish the charts after midnight Zulu time.

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Guys,

I think Forum is suffering an Event:

2025-01-11T20:19:53Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:20:16Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:20:37Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:21:05Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:21:32Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:22:00Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:22:28Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:22:56Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:24:40Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:25:30Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:25:45Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:25:57Z    504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT
2025-01-11T20:27:24Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:28:06Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:28:36Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:29:03Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:19:30Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:20:07Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:20:34Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:21:01Z    504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT
2025-01-11T23:22:02Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:22:30Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:22:59Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:23:39Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:24:04Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:24:27Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:24:54Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:25:11Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:26:07Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:26:42Z    504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT

The MO is some 502, then some 503, and finally a 504 when things get back to normal for some time.

This almost surely means that we had exceeded that quota I mentioned before.

Why this quota is being exceeded I can't tell - but I dare to guess that Forum is being increasingly hammered by less than friendly actors.

=== POST EDIT ===

Conspiracy Theory Mode On

Spoiler

And then I found this on Reddit:

Oh, boy... These guys are not helping on my paranoia. :sticktongue:

 

 

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Conspiracy Theory Mode On. :P
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55 minutes ago, Lisias said:

Guys,

I think Forum is suffering an Event:

2025-01-11T20:19:53Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:20:16Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:20:37Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:21:05Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:21:32Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:22:00Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:22:28Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:22:56Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:24:40Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:25:30Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:25:45Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T20:25:57Z    504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT
2025-01-11T20:27:24Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:28:06Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:28:36Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T20:29:03Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:19:30Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:20:07Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:20:34Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:21:01Z    504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT
2025-01-11T23:22:02Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:22:30Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:22:59Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:23:39Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:24:04Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:24:27Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:24:54Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:25:11Z    503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity
2025-01-11T23:26:07Z    502 Bad Gateway
2025-01-11T23:26:42Z    504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT

The MO is some 502, then some 503, and finally a 504 when things get back to normal for some time.

This almost surely means that we had exceeded that quota I mentioned before.

Why this quota is being exceeded I can't tell - but I date to guess that Forum is being increasingly hammered by less than friendly actors.

Good grief, if I ask ChatGPT for a Wrong Red Moon post it just might start quoting me word for word now.

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6 hours ago, Squirrel Slapper said:

Lads we're so cooked

Probably so yes. But a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001µm wide sliver of hope exists in the fact theres been movement on ip side of things in terms of we now know who has the ip rights and that the OG kerbal himself HarvesteR has reached out to them to try to start a dialogue. What comes next? No idea. But somethings coming. 140401132024

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