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[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [16.1][28.05.2024][Mars Expedition WIP]


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14 minutes ago, Drakenex said:

Off course you're the boss here! So @Deltac??

I separate thread would probably help us both out and make us feel more special!  And provide a single place to put the download link so people don't have to hunt through the topic.  You wanna go ahead and make the thread?

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12 minutes ago, Deltac said:

I separate thread would probably help us both out and make us feel more special!  And provide a single place to put the download link so people don't have to hunt through the topic.  You wanna go ahead and make the thread?

hahaha +1 about feeling special. So, about the name? Tantares Paintshop? I Pimp Your Soyuz? :sticktongue:

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2 minutes ago, Drakenex said:

hahaha +1 about feeling special. So, about the name? Tantares Paintshop? I Pimp Your Soyuz? :sticktongue:

Paintares?  xD  Though "Pimp My Soyuz" has a certain appeal.

hmm.... yeah, "Pimp My Soyuz" just has that bite!

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After some fine tuning (probably needs more but :P) I give you Delli's Tantrums!  Tantares, Tantrums.  Get it?  8D  This is the pre-release until Drakenex gets back to me about a thread and his files and what kind of ducks we want guarding our thread.

Delli's Tantrum Download Link

Salyut Screenies:

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Installation:
Put the Delli_Alt folder in your Gamedata folder.  Make sure you have the latest Firespitter and Module Manager installed.

Uninstallation:
Delete the Delli_Alt folder.  Now dance!

License:
I recolored Beale's textures, so it's the same license as Beale.

Parts Affected:
H-CA1 Avionics Hub
H-FS1 Forward Section
H-PC1 Propellant Control Block
H-PC2 Propellant Control Block
V-SA7 Crewed Block
E-1RK Stern Crew Module
E-AB6 Midsection Crew Module
A-B10 Crewed Block
E-8E4 Power Bank
A-S12 Large MonoPropellant Tank
A-S10 Small MonoPropellant Tank
LR-ET9 "Kampoks" Rocket Motor
LT-Z18 "Sverdstav" Rocket Motor
LV-NDF Rocket Propellant Tank
LV-15N "Komfyr" Rocket Motor

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23 minutes ago, Deltac said:

After some fine tuning (probably needs more but :P) I give you Delli's Tantrums!  Tantares, Tantrums.  Get it?  8D  This is the pre-release until Drakenex gets back to me about a thread and his files and what kind of ducks we want guarding our thread.

Delli's Tantrum Download Link

Really beautiful, nice consistent alternate colours, you will make a lot of people happy!

Many thanks for your work on this.

 

 

Progress:

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@Beale, just a random thought. What if the decouplers for the N-1 got an upgrade in heat resistance so that they wouldn't explode the moment you fire the next stage engines into them? After all, those open-girder segments are meant for not exploding stuff by hot-staging IRL, so it would be nice if the decouplers played along.

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39 minutes ago, TK-313 said:

@Beale, just a random thought. What if the decouplers for the N-1 got an upgrade in heat resistance so that they wouldn't explode the moment you fire the next stage engines into them? After all, those open-girder segments are meant for not exploding stuff by hot-staging IRL, so it would be nice if the decouplers played along.

Either this, or some ablator to take the heat for a few seconds.

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@DJ Reonic, well, if we go esoteric, we can come up with anything up to and including making a big hole in the hitbox (because hey, BDB Saturn interstages are rings, so why shoulldn't Tantares decouplers be ones?) But I guess that's just more cumbersome than editing one line in the config :)

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50 minutes ago, TK-313 said:

@DJ Reonic, well, if we go esoteric, we can come up with anything up to and including making a big hole in the hitbox (because hey, BDB Saturn interstages are rings, so why shoulldn't Tantares decouplers be ones?) But I guess that's just more cumbersome than editing one line in the config :)

Apparently the decouplers in the Making History expansion also have hollow colliders, thought i believe that's more for shenanigans (think the Ml1 Structural Fuselage and what people get up to with that) than for the purposes we are describing. 

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18 minutes ago, kopapaka said:

Decoupler and built-in rocket separator?

Nonono. Hot staging, spent stage being pushed away by the next stage's engines - and not exploding. That's the whole trick.

On a side note, this would make perfect sense to pull apart the "yellow" and "red" decoupler lines, which are virtually identical now.

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19 hours ago, Deltac said:

The Soyuz rocket engine, he's experimenting with verniers being detachable.

 

Salyut 1 in full operation! o7

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Beautiful!

The colours really make a difference :) 

8 hours ago, TK-313 said:

@Beale, just a random thought. What if the decouplers for the N-1 got an upgrade in heat resistance so that they wouldn't explode the moment you fire the next stage engines into them? After all, those open-girder segments are meant for not exploding stuff by hot-staging IRL, so it would be nice if the decouplers played along.

It would be really nice, thanks all above for ideas. Currently hot-staging in Tantares is...

 

12 minutes ago, TK-313 said:

On a side note, this would make perfect sense to pull apart the "yellow" and "red" decoupler lines, which are virtually identical now.

Yes! This has been long overdue.

 

 

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Před 21 minutami uvedl TK-313:

Nonono. Hot staging, spent stage being pushed away by the next stage's engines - and not exploding. That's the whole trick.

On a side note, this would make perfect sense to pull apart the "yellow" and "red" decoupler lines, which are virtually identical now.

Yes.
But this is a KSP, not a real world ...
For example, solid (SOYUZ) solar panels. They are not fun in KSP.

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I like the exploding decuplers, I just wish they exploded a fraction of a second later. It reminds me of a Titan II's hot staging. As the second stage lights the open girders allow the exhaust to escape for a short time before being annihilated as the engine gets up to full power. Video below

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPBkZNMM_IUg&ved=0ahUKEwjE_uPAzfTXAhULpZQKHZmICRMQwqsBCCMwAA&usg=AOvVaw2TpLA47vAF2IQVbDwDD2d6

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