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Could work in KSP but youd need to trade fuel for cargo bay.. Likely not get to orbit but youd have the plane destroyed by the engines in an epic bond-like launch... Perhaps thats a good challenge... Most authentic moonraker hijack launch challenge!

since my hype train has transitioned from a formidable diesel electric land train modeled loosely off a railway prototype to my current fixation.. lesser theme park type trackless lawnmowers with a train shell.. I fear any type of hype train built on that foundation would seem weak and insulting.. as for the hype Hope.. I was disapointed with 1.05 really.. reverted straight back to 1.04.. but due to my PCs dwindling specs more than anything.. although its a futile hope.. if we had a glimmer of performance we had in 0.25..then it'll be all rainbows and unicorns for alot of people im guessing.. the added parts and features might just be bonuses THE REAL THING IM EXPECTING IS A NEW SQUAD KERBAL ANIMATION MOVIE SINCE OMG 1.1 IS IMPORTANT!.. maybe not as dark as 1.0 though

Was it in one of the james bond films where someone fired engines of a piggybacked shuttle from a 747 and took off into space? (747 didnt survive .destroyed by shuttle main engines) Yup...looked it up but probably not nice to post here..look up moonraker shuttle launch or hijack

So.. Like ... IF I Happen to use mechjeb to regulate a locomotives speed to around 30 ms automaticly using dynamic brake and or engine throttle as a modern day overspeed prevention system vs watching the speed gauge like a hawk so I can be looking at the road ahead more so than the dashboard Or using a mechjeb system on an undocked KAS coupled rear caboose to protect the train above 31ms Am......I cheating? (yes the caboose is a real thing in KTP..im not trolling..more than rockets use mechjeb...rovers and trains do too) While I wont blow my own horn.. My 44 class has a leslie based 5 chime horn... So... Consider it blown to a great degree http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/130264-what-is-cheating-the-thread-to-define-the-age-old-question/#comment-2369414

The resource flow simulation .. Its beautiful (long explaination ahead) Something that few people might not even realise exists but its because that it does...and does well.. That a diesel electric locomotive is possible (even if it generates monoprop these days) See these rover wheels and engines..they all have a hidden throttle thats tied to resources.. A kind of power curve depending on the number of that resource present.. Its by default a thin line..but modded simply its a full throttle system I exploit to control the locomotives speed and torque with the engines Say if a rover wheel requires 10 electric charge points to work.. At 3 points itll creep forwards.. At 5 youll have half speed and at 10 being generated youll have the wheels full power and so on The "underpowered" state isnt quite true or false..its a scale and with lots of fine tuning..can be used as a method of control But! Oddly..its quirky.. Say if that rover wheel is a group of 12 wheels as per a standard land-train loco.. The maths get a bit strange.. You cant simply multiply the same curve for 1 wheel to power output of the engines alternator.. Youll either end up with too much power..thus less power curve vs RPM.. Or too little where random wheels go underpowred state too deeply and drag the locomotive to one side The solution in part is to have 2 engines generating roughly half power each with a few points knocked off.. Or added depending on the rover wheels requirement modded thirst Then running as a twin pair started at different times linked to the same throttle... Suddenly youll get all wheels responding to the twin engines alternators as if theres a current restriction overcome by having 2 units vs the one Youll still get the occasional underpowered state on 1 or 2 wheels that you can juggle around.. Disabling one or two wheels from wherever they might be an activating more symetrical ones to give a straight track.. It happens more during lower RPM though hence the reason for the generators now making monoprop and rover wheels using it... Nose mounted SAS RCS keeps the train straight at lower rpms All up..as long as you got something like mechjeb.. KOS or even a steering wheel pedal acting as the "gear" in pressing rover wheels permenantly forward to engage the transmission Then with fine adjustments..a bit of experience and dedication to alter the resource values between the wheels vs weight vs generation in the respective config files (my wheels weigh 1 ton) ... Because of the hidden resource simulation within KSP A passable and fully awesome hybrid transmission is possible.. Its taken me years to perfect but this is what powers my trains.. https://youtu.be/zRw8jySTZ0w At its very core its a stock feature.. And for that im very thankful.. Squad has done what very few games have done.. Its a beautiful thing... If underappreciated Power simulation... KSPs best feature

BIs it....a thing? Not just on the menu screen? Ive never been to the mun.. But I envision the day I do hauling oxygen tanks and fuel behind a locomotive spewing RCS from the sanders to keep glued to the terrain.. Exploring an alienworld only to have the cab windows fill with orange.. Crew screaming and wheels make thier way back to kerbin alone All because I hit an unexpected elusive mun castle everyone with the exception of me is happy to see?

I still think they should use Kevin Macleods track "At Rest" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGv4CHx38OY As it really focuses the mind on the terrible fate that awaits your crafts crew.. a new rocket with inspired happy crew at peace within themselves to the challenge before them.. under the lesser capable eyes of the kerbal KSC.. theres a good chance their first flight .. becomes their last... as your craft slowly takes shape, she either becomes a wonderful machine full of achievement and glory... or a once rocket.. perhaps spaceplane shaped machine that cut short the lives of her crew... screaming and squirming in their seats knowing theres not much they can actually do... other than wait for the orange glow to envelop their viewing ports shortly before they goto the big KSC in the sky... Similar to trains, in my case.. I play this as a new class number takes shape in the SPH, each and every locomotive built with the care and love of her former classmate fallen before... a shiny new class number one number higher, brilliant bright headlights shine and a loud horn announces her presence to all of kerbin.. detriot engines cough and bark loudly to life.. leaving a dark cloud of smoke that slowly disapears in the air above.. a new train with the lives of her new crew sets out to conquer the great expanse that is kerbin.... sadly like many before, with the odds against them.. its more than likely the above acts as little more than a blip in the history of the great KTP... and much like her class mates and fellow crewmembers before them.. the locomotive, her train and crew.. ends up as scattered debris strewn over the green unforgiving landscape.. with the hopes and dreams lost once more (Written while playing this music, it has the capacity to bring a very....respectful.. somber yet creative drive to what would once be an artificially joyus time because of the default music... make no mistake.. the SPH isnt a place to be happy unless your very lucky.. or happen to be a very good pilot/engineer)

I miss the old days.. When people used to say what you need..not what you dont need and its wrong to buy it Its one of the reasons why electronic stores are so damn bland now with computers that cant do anything Eg.. My brother brought a laptop.. 350 dollars new 32gb hdd.. Celeron dual core 2gb ram . I thought it was a joke until i seen its a thing.... Sad times

HORRIBLE!!!! Abosolutely wrong and very sad... For the love of kerbol...what has happened to this community lately?! Scribbleheli posts a thread in a good natured way to share the excitement of the upcoming updates wishing to see who else shares the same mindset And it results in belittling..snapping..pcmasterracism and general nastiness betraying the very theme of this thread.. Yuck! Now onto nicer things.. KSP singlehandedly revitalised the pc gaming scene for me previously lost to overly scripted console ports and AAA titles that while costing millions were an empty shell I loved gmod but the small maps arnt ideal.. I actually brought a PC FOR KSP Its getting on in years or was before it went byby recently.. So im building a PC of recentish i7 grade to whats already mentioned.. And I expect to enjoy it too..longer trains..perhaps modular track..steam locomotives custom modded.. Trackless trains for KSC crew transfers. Stations.. The lot.. And with it the wish that KSP 1.1 brings the core usage to make it possible Yes its a fact that KSP wont improve on certain high specifications... But other games WILL if not KSP the the future itself.. No ones wasting their money on upgrades..KSP is as much a gateway to PC gaming as it is a beautiful unique thing itself.. So to you scribbleheli I simply say your build sounds awesome..itll bring you years of happyness.. I admire your spirit and dedication more people could do with that very mindset these days..

Ahh.. Good times 0.23 I think I buy KSP.. A plane crashes with crew alive..several planes lost trying to land nearby for rescue... The Landliner was invented as an alternate recovery method Jet propelled 4 car train with electric assist trailercar... Thousands die... Plane still there Weeks later.. 3 car recovery train was born...100s die but plane rescued 0.25.. The passenger express was born...planes and rockets abandon for trains.. Thousands die horribly.. Trains start being numbered.. Get quite....high KSC becomes a dedicated railyard for refined hybrid battery driven recharging transmission.. running on both battery power and direct generation propulsion from the alternator of a modified engine... Trailercar recharges in the sun, a locomotive stables after a safe run... sadly the 4-6 car trains start to get shorter with each update.. as the game gets laggy.. I find im missing previous versions more.. less cars get stabled... railyard gets cleaned after each run Passengers abandoned for freight.. What? KSP is a space simulator you say? LIES!! 0.25 to 0.90 44 class and 40 class are born.. Diesel electric system takes over, removing batteries entirely.. locomotives start to use ALCO and EMD engine sounds.. Lawnmower engined "flea" overtakes battery shunters.. all being now diesel electric transmissioned.. performance picks up a little from that lost in previous updates My beautiful radiator intake fans get removed from the game, ugly bigger intakes take their place and need to be cheated into position.. I paint a custom radial mount with a fan texture. its passable but I miss the old one.... 1.04+ Refined beautiful capable and lovable modern day 44 class and 40 class stable in a railyard well worn in the past by train-like jet powered death machines.. Finally reaching the goal of the KTP Trains remain short to 4 cars maximum.. my aging core2duo with 2gb ram cant run KSP anymore without deleting mark 3 parts.. Entire installations of KSP become dedicated to train parts only Kerbal train program 1.05 if only I could run it... downgraded to 1.04 as trains dont swim and im not building a submarine train.. docking ports cause serious disturbing lag and time slowdowns.. I miss my earlier versions.... the memories above were happy times (for me.. not the kerbals)

it kind of is, since the OP was about a new annoying feature.. an extended topic of the new forum change.. perhaps someone should make a dedicated thread?

Too facebooky for my liking.. If you press no you still get the indicator on the corner I miss the old forums for all but one thing how itd log out while your writing an epic emotional post then lose half of it when you goto send... For everything else except that .. Its been a bad change I know people who cant post due to the neon white and contrast site issues.. Its just not kerbal

Mundane is awesome.. Right now im on a bus, headed home 2 hours 35 minutes home.. As the bus works her way towards the train station.. My mind is filled by KSP How to overcome challenges.. A novel coupling for locomotives and wagons that works so well in my head right now I cant wait to get home and try it Not actually docking so the cockpit view kraken stays away but then facing the reality that if it works ill have an unbreaked heavy train behind my locomotive..with each wagon being its own entity Challenge two is thinking how to link 2 KOS cores so I can have a gaurdsvan (caboose?) apply her brakes at the rear of the train in sync with the loco to prevent nasty things on hills The next realisation being each train will then require a shunter crew to manually connect each wagon.. Increasing realism to pure mundane awesomeness The goal? If it works... Drive hours on the surface of kerbin with an unbraked 6 car train with additional gaurdsvan Shoot nothing.. Kill only kerbals accidently and generally enjoy friday night post work kerbal time as I wind down from a long work week.. Mundane overload But.. I Love it Do I have other games? Yup! But its KSPs flexability to be as mundane as you like..or not that makes it great I had an xbox360 not long back.. It put me to sleep alot.. And it definately didnt occupy my thoughts.. KSP has a presence that many games do not and could only wish to have

The F12 menu can also be a gift in a truly horrible situation such as the earlier builds heat problems 4004.. A beautiful 40 class new to the world and making great strides to honour her sistertrains and indeed prove that the 40 class long hood locomotive although inferior to the bulldog stream lined and higher visibility 44 class, was something to be taken seriously From the cab on her precooler derived long hood I could see a slow gradual glow building up.. A quick check of the temps revealed her hood was burning at 400+ degrees.. But confident in her ability I simply shut down #1 engine and kept going on half power.. Until night time revealed the true horror of her situation.. Locomotive BBQ snout.. Shutting engines down took days to cool and moments to reheat. I thought maybe itd be ok in the end but as things climbed to 600 while underway.. A sence of that Id have to send another train shortly to replace her once she exploded effected me greatly.. Now being rather attached to the locomotive herself The decision I made was difficult as I felt it was cheating..but with only the other outcome being the launch of 4005 or 4410 from the yard once she'd been reduced to a pile of scrap due to defective heat physics... I damn well opened that F12 menu.. Adjusting radiation, convection and other things so she didnt have to suffer a terrible fate not of her doing Cheating...maybe.. But justified Sometimes cheats are if you feel strongly enough

watch one of nassaults greatest movies... Jool Where one of the greatest female kerbal actresses was infact.. Not able to vote in this thread too And feel very happy regardless https://youtu.be/7N9KcuEEX3I

Someone mentioned sims I know this is mostly unrelated but despite sequals of 3 and 4.. Sims 2 remains the only other game besides KSP to ever give me a sence of oneness with it.. Watching my married women couple grow old and one die before the other ranks as one of the most complete emotional rides a games ever give to me.. And a major credit to the developers.. Similar to how I felt when 4408 blew her generator turbine 145km from KSC on the elcano challenge.. That moment of silence..timeless moment where everything changed and something you nursed carefully, taken care of.. Even loved becomes no more.. Amazing stuff.. Topped only by the intoxicating highs and near-tears of joy when your baby..be she simulated person..spaceplane or rocket or land train achieves something through troubled and difficult times that could go either way The sims isnt all that different from KSP in the emotional sence.. Infact I think if you ignore the science and engineering and jump straight into being fond and proud of your craft.. The transition might be easier than you think Oh and my earlier post...serious and non troll in nature.. I do know a few women players though

Theres also an option in the alt-F12 menu or shift F12 if on linux to enable being able to revert to the initial launch always not just within KSC proximity in gameplay Also KSP makes a great stratofortress

......... Im sorry.. The truth must come out See the mun..and how its made of dust and full of holes? And how kerbals turn to the same grey dust when they die? YOU MADE THE MUN! You monster!!

Can we have a 3rd option? For those who live in a world as a jebidiah but long to be a valentina? or the valentinas of the world who wish to be a jeb? Or perhaps a docking port or pocket Ibeam on ones craft doesnt have any bearing on gameplay at all

If it serves a good purpose.. Then its an evolution of the former.. Or something off the shelf retooled for a reason.. Common in the realworld If I haddent done this.. My trains with thier diesel electric transmission originally from an edited jet engine turned pure alternator wouldnt have been possible.. Its all a progression.. And probably how most modders started Its all those things and a credit to squad that we can do it at all Dont microwave sausages though..use a frying pan

Yeah the "ive been driving for hours, tell me how awesome I am" button Its important for many challenges... One of KSPs attractions so id say its important to fix

As does the distance..by almost half A flag planted then driven away from will show say 30km distance on the HUD but if you end the drive or flight itll show 15km on the flight report.. A usual observation on the KSC-Mountain loop I commonly run as a shakedown Never knew why this is.. Itd be nice to have accuracy.. Is it a bug or is flight report somehow using anothet source of data?

I think "Cheating" has become a trigger word of sorts for the forum of late the more I actually think about it.. probably also an element of that is the persistence of the "is it cheating if...." threads that although seem to be done by different users having no relation, the first few seemed to be downright troll threads.. in a community that hasn't really had to deal with that for the longest time.. The kerbal forum is one of the best places ive had the pleasure to visit and be a part of for much longer than any game forum.. by now most would have soured horribly and everyone turned against eachother, either its a credit to good moderators.. or a good community. I choose the later I made this thread because I too became angry at someone asking if somethings a cheat for the 1000th time, once post-work happiness set in I realised it was a mistake and theres much better ways.. much happier, fun and kind ways to discuss such a topic with adding jest and relying on the great people we have here to contribute it remains though as if cheat the word itself being a hostile trigger.. such as the mechjeb thread.. if the OP would have asked who feels comfortable using mechjeb in x or x situation and state their reasons vs simply asking if its cheating to use mechjeb.. in a sandbox simulation that's single player.. I genuinely feel things wouldn't have descended to the lows they did, the same can also the said for a few other threads of similar titles.. simply using a different word might have given a better outcome.. most of the posts in this thread spare a few seem to demonstrate that very thing its an odd conclusion to come too.. but I feel not an incorrect one. .and once again thankyou to everyone that's contributed its been a nice read on the way to and from work

Yes its automaticly hidden if you cheat

This is true.. Odd ive just realised that for all her adventures and missions in space combat on the galaxy railways season 1 and 2 anime Big one..styled off a union pacific bigboy steam locomotive.. That happens to be space faring and combat ready with laser batteries Ive never seen an episode where shes ran out of water.. Or required coal at all Indeed her command center is in the tender yet the locomotive still has full steam controls on the engine herself Ahh scifi...a beautiful thing Could it be im not cheating if its got a prototype?