zeropositivo Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 and if you would bother to use the mouse on the plot (which is a single color), you would have seen that the values are there...furthermore the ideal solution is displayed on default as always....No? all I get from mousing over is NaN error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillAshley Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 yeah it seems twp doesn't like Aptur at all from what I've experience personally. It handles the other planets well though...then again i do like all this talk about how to properly navigate to Aptur, seems my goal of creating new challenges is working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiew Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 yeah it seems twp doesn't like Aptur at all from what I've experience personally. It handles the other planets well thoughIt seems to have issues with synchronised orbits. It can't do harvest from another planet pack either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom700 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Strangely enough, Aptur -> Kerbin is working as fine as any "normal" transferOn Kerbin -> Aptur: I also have "NaN" values, but also a lot of points (colored with different grey), which have values attached Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Strangely enough, Aptur -> Kerbin is working as fine as any "normal" transferOn Kerbin -> Aptur: I also have "NaN" values, but also a lot of points (colored with different grey), which have values attachedI wonder if that's in any way related to how much easier I've found it is to get back to Kerbin from Aptur than the other way around. I've found I can pretty much at any time and in any orbit get a minimum-dV ejection from Aptur that gets me an encounter with Kerbin that is also pretty low dV to capture. Frequently, in fact, the Pe is within Kerbin's atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantab Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I've observed that too, and it seems strange because transfers should be symmetric. Maybe the inclination of your Kerbin orbit (or escape trajectory) factors into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I've observed that too, and it seems strange because transfers should be symmetric. Maybe the inclination of your Kerbin orbit (or escape trajectory) factors into it.I think it's all due to the fact that Kerbin's a bigger target. It's easier to shoot a bullet out of a rifle into a barn door, than it is to shoot one out of a barn door into a rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillAshley Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 It's easier to shoot a bullet out of a rifle into a barn door, than it is to shoot one out of a barn door into a rifle.Quote of the year right there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom700 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Today I ran into some issues with RemoteTech that got me wondering. Basically I was pointing a 40Gm Antenna towards Laythe (to check the size of the cone), and I noticed that it wouldn't even reach Laythe. Has anyone changed the stats for the antennae to compensate for the bigger system size, or what is your solution to the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillAshley Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Today I ran into some issues with RemoteTech that got me wondering. Basically I was pointing a 40Gm Antenna towards Laythe (to check the size of the cone), and I noticed that it wouldn't even reach Laythe. Has anyone changed the stats for the antennae to compensate for the bigger system size, or what is your solution to the problem?hmm that's strange. I actually didn't include a RT patch as i was able to directly connect a dish from Kerbin to Vanor without one, so I figured increasing the distances would be overkill. Anyone else had trouble with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IggyHitokage Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Today I ran into some issues with RemoteTech that got me wondering. Basically I was pointing a 40Gm Antenna towards Laythe (to check the size of the cone), and I noticed that it wouldn't even reach Laythe. Has anyone changed the stats for the antennae to compensate for the bigger system size, or what is your solution to the problem?When Laythe is closer to Kerbin (in ideal-ish Transfer Window Planner range), the 40Gm will definitely work. I ran an entire mission that included Deep Freeze'd Kerbals that relied on a probe core to take them out of cryo just recently with only the 40Gm dish. Otherwise, if you need more range, there are lots of other antenna mods, try http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/98205-0-25-ORIGAMI-foldable-antenna-dishes-for-RemoteTechIt has two dishes, one with a 69Gm range and one with a 350Gm range. Also, I believe Sigma88 has some extra dishes too and RemoteTech IIRC includes some pretty insanely large dishes that range from 100Gm, 150Gm, 300Gm and 750Gm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 When Laythe is closer to Kerbin (in ideal-ish Transfer Window Planner range), the 40Gm will definitely work. I ran an entire mission that included Deep Freeze'd Kerbals that relied on a probe core to take them out of cryo just recently with only the 40Gm dish. Otherwise, if you need more range, there are lots of other antenna mods, try http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/98205-0-25-ORIGAMI-foldable-antenna-dishes-for-RemoteTechIt has two dishes, one with a 69Gm range and one with a 350Gm range. Also, I believe Sigma88 has some extra dishes too and RemoteTech IIRC includes some pretty insanely large dishes that range from 100Gm, 150Gm, 300Gm and 750Gm.AIES also has some nice antennas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom700 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Okay, I guess I am just having the problem then because of the lack of tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Ok so I have downloaded the mod, when I go to the ksc instance it turns black and I can see a small dot, similar to minimus viewed from kerbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillAshley Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) very strange, do you have the latest NH & Kopernicus versions? If so, can you go to GameData/New_Horizons/Cache/ and delete all the .bin files and restart the game. If it doesn't load then send me a .zip of your /Logs/ folderIf you could do that also send me a screenshot of your GameData folder in case its a simple install error! Edited September 24, 2015 by KillAshley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ok I deleted the bin files, here is my game data screenshot, how do you want me to send the log?http://imgur.com/gallery/NHQYDjR/new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wercho Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ok I deleted the bin files, here is my game data screenshot, how do you want me to send the log?http://imgur.com/gallery/NHQYDjR/newYou should only have the "New_Horizons" folder in your GameData, not "New_Horizons-1.6.5.1". I suspect you extracted the zip to your GameData folder. If so, you'll have all the files in there twice, producing some odd results. Move the 1.6.5.1 folder elsewhere (out of the KSP directory), and see if that fixes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillAshley Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 yeah not too sure how you got both folders there, obviously it's just a simple install error. Delete the New_horizons-1.5.6.1 folder and see if it works, if theres any other errors after that delete both New_Horizons folders and re-install, making sure to follow the readme.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynrael Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 From the image it appears Kopernicus may also be duplicated or not correctly installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whovian Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Are Kerbin and Aptur supposed to be roughly exactly out from one another on their apoapses/periapses? I seem to remember a more substantial desyncing of their orbits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snark Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I see that the changelog for the most recent version mentions fixing a "quicksand" bug. However, I notice that when I have a Kerbal on Serran, they tend to sink into the terrain up to their waist, and walking is painfully slow-- it's like they're fighting through waist-high snow. And sometimes they die.Known issue?Haven't had the problem with vehicles, just kerbals. Landed a plane, it rolls around just fine, but get out and walk and it's slush city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantab Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Are Kerbin and Aptur supposed to be roughly exactly out from one another on their apoapses/periapses? I seem to remember a more substantial desyncing of their orbits.They should have the same orbital period as I understand it. No idea if the exact orbits have been adjusted at any point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma88 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 They should have the same orbital period as I understand it. No idea if the exact orbits have been adjusted at any point.As long as they have the same semi-major-axis they will also have the same orbital period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 As long as they have the same semi-major-axis they will also have the same orbital period Which just pushes the sentence sideways, to "They should have the same semi-major-axis as I understand it. No idea if the exact orbits have been adjusted at any point."I can actually state with assuredness that the two moons have the same period. I can't speak on if they have been modified, having only started playing it recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma88 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I didn't feel like checking Kerbin = 51841536Aptur = 51841536no Idea if those were different in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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