Entr8899 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) Is there any chance of adding more wetlabs to BDB in the future? I love the concept but there are literally no other mods that add anything like it, and there are only two wetlabs in BDB and they're both derived from the S-IVB. I remember seeing something about a Centaurlab launched on an Atlas V (I think?), just slap some extra greebles and a porthole onto the Centaur model and a dedicated docking adapter, some config stuff, and it's done. Edited October 10, 2021 by Entr8899 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyJ576 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 @CobaltWolfand @Zorg, Thanks for the reply on the Tweakscale configs. I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t an installation issue. It was kind of fun playing around with the C-series Saturns, but I found out that the C-2 was a dog going uphill and C-3 was redundant. I am having much more fun with the INT-20 and the MS series. Don’t spend any time putting the Tweakscale configs back in. Thanks for all you guys do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derega16 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 10 hours ago, CobaltWolf said: What's the point of config 2 and 4 ? It doesn't look like it can carry any meaningful payload 10 hours ago, CobaltWolf said: What's the point of config 2 and 4 ? It doesn't look like it can carry any meaningful payload Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, derega16 said: What's the point of config 2 and 4 ? It doesn't look like it can carry any meaningful payload What's the point of config 2 and 4 ? It doesn't look like it can carry any meaningful payload Wetlab Lunar base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derega16 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: Wetlab Lunar base. But that's means all equipment and experiment have to be cyro-proof it don't have a separate area to store them to install later like Skylab wetlab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceFace545 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, derega16 said: But that's means all equipment and experiment have to be cyro-proof it don't have a separate area to store them to install later like Skylab wetlab 1. The equipment would probably be installed by crews sent on dedicated landers and 2. Skylab wasn’t really a wet worship, Skylab was 95% assembled on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberro+ Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Decided to take some creative liberties with the new Saturn parts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pTrevTrevs Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) The OG Saturn V SA-500F was a test article Saturn V used for fit checks and procedures rehearsals at Kennedy Space Center during the summer of 1966. The S-IVB was originally developed as a 200-series test article and was used to check out LC-34 and LC-37 before being adapted for SA-500F, hence the out of place markings on the aft skirt. The iconic markings on the S-IC were originally intended to be the standard for all flightworthy Saturn Vs, but during testing at LC-39, technicians realized that the black roll stripes on the intertank structure caused excessive heat in the oppressive Florida weather, threatening to damage or warp interior components. Because of this, all flightworthy S-ICs only featured black roll stripes on the O2 tank structure. By the time this issue was discovered the S-ICs for Apollo 4-10 had already been painted with the 500F pattern and had to be repainted to the new standard when they arrived at the Cape. As a matter of fact, if you look closely at photos of the earlier Saturn V launches you can still see where the roll stripes were painted over with a fresh coat of white. Starting with Apollo 11's Saturn V the new pattern was painted on at Michoud where the S-IC was produced. After work concluded on SA-500F it was rolled back to the VAB and destacked. The S-IC is believed to have been scrapped shortly after, while the S-IVB was put into storage and later converted into an engineering mockup for Skylab, before it too was scrapped sometime after 1980. The S-II was sent to Huntsville, where it was reassigned to replace the original S-II on SA-500D, MSFC's dynamic test article, and today it survives along with the other two original 500D stages as the US Space and Rocket Center's restored Saturn V. I was really hoping to recreate this image of the Gemini 11 launch with SA-500F in the distant background, but it looks like LC-39 and LC-19 are too far apart for the Saturn to load in. Oh well... Edited October 11, 2021 by pTrevTrevs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derega16 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, SpaceFace545 said: 1. The equipment would probably be installed by crews sent on dedicated landers and 2. Skylab wasn’t really a wet worship, Skylab was 95% assembled on the ground. I means one that planned to launch on Saturn 1b also if land of dedicated lander it will defeat the purpose of landing the entire S-IVB as LM-truck have far less capability to fit the equipment need for S-IVB LH2 tank space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derega16 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 This is how to launch FFT miror cell cusion drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais_The_Duck Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I know this looks cursed but hear me out, the reusable MLLM (Multi-Level Lunar Module). Equipped with a double descent stage and a Titan LR91 Upper Stage Engine. It's also reusable since the ascent stage just becomes another fuel tank , and it has space for external seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappystein Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, derega16 said: What's the point of config 2 and 4 ? It doesn't look like it can carry any meaningful payload What's the point of config 2 and 4 ? It doesn't look like it can carry any meaningful payload OPINON: The payload is ON THE GROUND in those angles.... But also realize, these were more for "hey we can land here how do we get rid of it" test flights.... Edited October 11, 2021 by Pappystein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyJ576 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Is it possible write a config to add a third kerbalnaut position to the LM, possibly via a B9 part switch? If you used an ETS CM to fly to the moon you could have extra kerbals to send to the surface. You could maximize the surface engineering tasks and the science return while still having a pilot to fly it downhill. Some advanced LM versions should be able to support three ‘nauts. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) On 10/10/2021 at 1:33 PM, Beccab said: I know that the list of parts you guys have is already way too long, but is there a small chance there will be a SIVB-sized leg in BDB? There's a few proposals that need that (the ones Cobalt posted in particular) and the legs of that size out there are very very few. The ones I'm using here in particular fit good with the style of the parts, but are probably from before a particular KSP update and so the legs detach from the body extremely easily and partly clip in the terrain Definitely worth looking into at some point, probably not for this update. On 10/10/2021 at 5:03 PM, zakkpaz said: What's with the round thing on the front of the LM ascent stage between the position lights? I'm pretty sure it's also a light of some kind but i have no idea what it's for. A strobe, I believe? I didn't put any functionality in for it. On 10/10/2021 at 6:40 PM, Entr8899 said: Is there any chance of adding more wetlabs to BDB in the future? I love the concept but there are literally no other mods that add anything like it, and there are only two wetlabs in BDB and they're both derived from the S-IVB. I remember seeing something about a Centaurlab launched on an Atlas V (I think?), just slap some extra greebles and a porthole onto the Centaur model and a dedicated docking adapter, some config stuff, and it's done. Definitely possible, I don't know about Centaur. I could see a proper S-II wetlab being added at some point. On 10/10/2021 at 7:15 PM, DaveyJ576 said: @CobaltWolfand @Zorg, Thanks for the reply on the Tweakscale configs. I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t an installation issue. It was kind of fun playing around with the C-series Saturns, but I found out that the C-2 was a dog going uphill and C-3 was redundant. I am having much more fun with the INT-20 and the MS series. Don’t spend any time putting the Tweakscale configs back in. Thanks for all you guys do. I think enough people use them that they'd be worth updating. I just don't want to have to do it myself On 10/10/2021 at 9:59 PM, derega16 said: What's the point of config 2 and 4 ? It doesn't look like it can carry any meaningful payload On 10/10/2021 at 10:24 PM, Clamp-o-Tron said: Wetlab Lunar base. On 10/10/2021 at 10:28 PM, derega16 said: But that's means all equipment and experiment have to be cyro-proof it don't have a separate area to store them to install later like Skylab wetlab On 10/11/2021 at 12:19 AM, derega16 said: I means one that planned to launch on Saturn 1b also if land of dedicated lander it will defeat the purpose of landing the entire S-IVB as LM-truck have far less capability to fit the equipment need for S-IVB LH2 tank space 15 hours ago, Pappystein said: OPINON: The payload is ON THE GROUND in those angles.... But also realize, these were more for "hey we can land here how do we get rid of it" test flights.... Yeah, my understanding for these is the end goal is to lay the S-IVB down and semi-bury it in order to get some long term habitable space. In that situation, I think the volume is important and not bringing stuff to fill it out with. re: LM-Truck, I think the down mass is probably sufficient to fit out an S-IVB's internals. it's basically just a descent stage with an ascent stage's worth of cargo mass on top. 14 hours ago, DaveyJ576 said: Is it possible write a config to add a third kerbalnaut position to the LM, possibly via a B9 part switch? If you used an ETS CM to fly to the moon you could have extra kerbals to send to the surface. You could maximize the surface engineering tasks and the science return while still having a pilot to fly it downhill. Some advanced LM versions should be able to support three ‘nauts. Definitely doable, might not be doable as a B9 switch. I'll look into it once we start adding more LM stuff. Were there any real proposals for fitting 3 people in an LM? I'd like to know what other modifications they thought it'd need. EDIT: That's just the LM-Taxi, which I was planning on doing some variants of the Ascent/Descent stage for. Sounds good. Edited October 12, 2021 by CobaltWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 unpopular opinion: Saturn INT-12 would have been a bad design if it flew and both INT-11 and INT-13 where vastly superior in both payload and post-booster-sep. TWR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaker0704 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 are their any planes to add the s-v Pegasus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, squeaker0704 said: are their any planes to add the s-v Pegasus We are planning on adding Pegasus but not S-V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, squeaker0704 said: are their any planes to add the s-v Pegasus S-V is pretty much already there - it's Centaur. All you need is a suitable interstage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaker0704 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 so Pegasus is its own septet thing from the s-v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, squeaker0704 said: so Pegasus is its own septet thing from the s-v Pegasus is a satellite mounted on top of the S-IV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay The Amazing Toaster Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I ask for the thread to please consider the following... Extend! Capable of 33tons of hydrolox to LEO in KSRSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jay The Amazing Toaster said: I ask for the thread to please consider the following... Extend! Capable of 33tons of hydrolox to LEO in KSRSS. I wonder if we could use the indev Minuteman/Minotaur booster from photon corp for Saturn INT-19 when/if they come out, previously I used (oversized for that job) peacekeeper boosters) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefferyharrell Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jay The Amazing Toaster said: I refuse to believe this is a thing. I deny it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Prates Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jay The Amazing Toaster said: I ask for the thread to please consider the following Hey there he is, SUPER SATURN....DELUXE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jay The Amazing Toaster said: I ask for the thread to please consider the following... Extend! Capable of 33tons of hydrolox to LEO in KSRSS. I've said it before: that rocket is f a t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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