UomoCapra Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Hello Bughunters! The bugtracker has a feature you can use to upvote reports and thus help us order the issues by user relevance (Upvotes). How is it used? Simple. Just enter a project in the bugtracker and click on “Issues” in the menu bar. Select a bug or feedback of your choice, go to the “My vote” section and click on the upward arrow symbol. That’s it, you’ve upvoted a bug. You can also sort the issues by upvotes. Above the “Issues” columns, you’ll see a couple of dropdown menus; unfold the “Options” menu. Under the “Available Columns” list box look for “Votes Up” and add it to the “Selected Columns” by clicking on the rightwards arrow. Click on apply. . That’s it! Now you can click on the “Votes Up” Column and sort them accordingly. With this feature you can help us to find relevant bugs you think are important. Let’s the hunting begin! Happy launchings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Challenge Accepted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerospacer Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Right idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klgraham1013 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 "Prioritizing bugs..." - Squad 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorjim! Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1300 bugs open... Someone has a lot of work to do. As many have stated and posted videos on Youtube about this game is getting worse not better.. Squad need to stop adding things and fix the core game or we will be left with a shiny turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XLjedi Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) If only I needed to hunt them... rather they seek me out every time I turn your game on. Could everyone please upvote this not-a-bug? https://bugs.kerbalspaceprogram.com/issues/18017 The sadly comical thing is, my issue has 4 upvotes so far and looks like someone actually downvoted it??? (probably the guy who fixes bugs, LOL) So my issue has 4 whole upvotes, 1 downvote... and when I sort your 1300+ bugs by vote count, my not-a-bug (with 4 upvotes) ranks 22nd in a field of 1300!!! ...and you have to give people instructions on how to even get the field to display that you want us all looking at now? This is a joke right? Edited December 9, 2018 by XLjedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klesh Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Dont you have employees that are paid to work with this software? I’ve already spent my own time to enter bugs into this tool, make screenshots, elaborate on the solutions as suggested. Now you want me to spend more of my free time organizing 1300 entries because no one bothered to triage them as they came in? I’ve got bugs in that tracker I eagerly posted as soon as Making History dropped... 7 months ago, that haven’t even been looked at, confirmed, or anything. Makes me wonder why I even bothered. Now you want more from me on this tool? Sorry, but no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, klesh said: Dont you have employees that are paid to work with this software? I’ve already spent my own time to enter bugs into this tool, make screenshots, elaborate on the solutions as suggested. Now you want me to spend more of my free time organizing 1300 entries because no one bothered to triage them as they came in? I’ve got bugs in that tracker I eagerly posted as soon as Making History dropped... 7 months ago, that haven’t even been looked at, confirmed, or anything. Makes me wonder why I even bothered. Now you want more from me on this tool? Sorry, but no thanks. No problem. No one is forced to participate. But your pet peeves will take longer to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klgraham1013 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Vanamonde said: No problem. No one is forced to participate. But your pet peeves will take longer to be addressed. We've been here before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, klgraham1013 said: We've been here before. Enjoy your pessimism! Like I said, no one is obliged to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, klgraham1013 said: We've been here before. So the community didn't help a lot before, but maybe they're hoping it will this time because there seem to be a lot of people with a lot of bugs that are making them a lot of angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1904 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, 5thHorseman said: So the community didn't help a lot before, but maybe they're hoping it will this time because there seem to be a lot of people with a lot of bugs that are making them a lot of angry. I get you can be frustrated and all but people that complain about bugs tend to have mods installed and for me stock Ksp is quite stable. I know the video you mean and I have trouble attaching parts sometimes but since I run 100 mods I cannot complain about it since it has never happend to me in stock. Lets be honest. Look at the bugs we had 4 years ago and look at what we have now... I used to go crazy about my pc crashing and fps going to 10 with 40 mods. Now I can run at 30+ with twice the mods, more complex mods and I have not payed a cent for that support. This is all on the exact same pc. I didn't need making history since there are a billion parts mods but I bought it for the amount of support we got. You can say alot of things about KSP but that bugs and issues are not being addressed is not one of them. Keep in mind that out of the 1300 bugs alot of them might not be easy to recreate and impossible to fix. Just cause some youtubers says something doesn't mean you should take his word for it. Don't complain about getting free support to a game that was released 3 years ago because we are not entitled to anything after 1.0. Edited December 13, 2018 by dave1904 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klgraham1013 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, Vanamonde said: Enjoy your pessimism! I will. Thanks. Enjoy your Squad defending. Edited December 14, 2018 by klgraham1013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfds Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 5:18 PM, Vanamonde said: No problem. No one is forced to participate. But your pet peeves will take longer to be addressed. (emphasize mine) But is not exactly that the reason why the priorities should be given by a neutral party? At the moment, this "project" sounds a lot like an invitation to go campaigning for these very pet peeves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gapone Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 All I can see is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chel Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gapone said: All I can see is https://imgur.com/a/ooEWY4J You need to register an account, which I've shown via the link :) Edited December 14, 2018 by The_Cat_In_Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Gapone said: All I can see is All I can see is the "Register" link in the upper right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocketeer Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 4:18 PM, Vanamonde said: your pet peeves will take longer to be addressed. This bothered me enough that I had to reset my password to say something - new computer, infrequent login etc. So my takeaway from this announcement (and Vanamonde's support of it) goes something like this: Squad now aim to prioritise bugfixing on the basis of a popularity contest for a minority of extremely highly motivated players who are also aware of this thread, plus a tiny number who already habitually visit the bugtracker and have figured out the upvote/downvote thing on their own. Someone please draw me a venn-diagram of exactly how marginal that group will be. I draw two conclusions from this: a) it won't matter how severe a bug is just so long as it's (un?)popular, because the dev team don't have any vision for or sense of their product's functional identity b) despite the playerbase doing all the hard work of identify, reporting, cataloging bugs and even making fix or workaround mods for years almost nothing has been done with this info, and now that they're finally thinking about it they want more of our collective unpaid labour to work out where to start. So uncool . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DfA-DoM Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 IMHO, Squad is simply trying to tell us that using a bug tracker would be a more convenient way to track bugs instead of being obliged to dive into forum threads to get details and suggesting to up/down vote issues would be a way to determine which one need to be fixed first. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocketeer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DfA-DoM said: IMHO, Squad is simply trying to tell us that using a bug tracker would be a more convenient way to track bugs instead of being obliged to dive into forum threads to get details and suggesting to up/down vote issues would be a way to determine which one need to be fixed first. That's all. I mean, you're right... but that's why the bug tracker was set up like 3 or 4 years ago. The fact that it has taken this long to get to a point where they are making noises about actually using it themselves is simply a massively unappreciative and incompetent slap in the face to the people who have actually been doing their work for them by using it. Nobody ever expected Squad to trawl through the forum for bug-related issues, but bug-hunting and especially bug-squashing are kinda basic requirements of being software developers. Even with a helluva lot of user help - 1300 unique bugs! - they just really haven't bothered. Edited December 15, 2018 by The_Rocketeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardB3020 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 during 1.7 could @SQUAD do a bug fix only update please over the 5000 bugs out there please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/15/2018 at 11:45 AM, The_Rocketeer said: I mean, you're right... but that's why the bug tracker was set up like 3 or 4 years ago. The fact that it has taken this long to get to a point where they are making noises about actually using it themselves is simply a massively unappreciative and incompetent slap in the face to the people who have actually been doing their work for them by using it. But they ARE using it. They have closed almost 200 bugs in the past year. I presume those bugs were ones that were being upvoted, and they're not saying "okay we're ready to start fixing bugs, upvote your favorites!" they're saying "okay we have this framework in place and you're not using it like the other people did and that's why we were fixing their bugs and not yours." 1 hour ago, EdwardB3020 said: during 1.7 could @SQUAD do a bug fix only update please over the 5000 bugs out there please? There are currently 1297 open bugs in the bug tracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klgraham1013 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) I did the thing and up voted a few. Can you sort by two columns? Say votes and version? Edited January 10, 2019 by klgraham1013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flart Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) This kind of bugtracker is not for players voting up for the stuff and looking on the every bug, it's for players submitting the bugs, and your staff solving or not solving them. Real-time user-developer relationship with voting and user somehow influencing to the developing process in the convenient for a developer way is services like trello or favro. examples:https://trello.com/b/yxoJrFgP/subnautica-developmenthttps://favro.com/organization/35200a08dbbad85b26102638/0d9378db42299691bb14c708 Edited December 17, 2018 by flart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XLjedi Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Now that some folks have registered their upvotes... Who sets the "Priority" field? Is it possible the top 10 (or so) reported bugs might be addressed in the next update? ...and on a side note, I do feel somewhat sorry for @Squad having the "Joystick Don't Work" bug (in Linux no less) as the number two item on the list, because I know you have no earthly (errr… kerbinly?) idea how to make Joysticks or Saitek drivers function correctly with the Unity engine. ….Windows, Linux, or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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