1.8 release date?

[Arugela]

Do we know when 1.8 is coming out. I'm really interested in the performance increases. Do we know likely in what way it will effect the game. Will the changes in engine help linux players as well? What do we know so far?

[linuxgurugamer]

39 minutes ago, Arugela said:

Do we know when 1.8 is coming out. I'm really interested in the performance increases. Do we know likely in what way it will effect the game. Will the changes in engine help linux players as well? What do we know so far?

No

So is everybody else

No

Unknown

New parts have been shown.

[Stone Blue]

Based on Squad's previous statement of trying to hold to a 3 month release schedule, 1.8 is roughly due the middle of this month. But we know software releases are not always on time. *Rarely* early. So I would not even ask or think about it for at least a couple moar weeks.

The other thing to consider, is 1.8 incorporating a huge Unity update, so I would be highly surprised if 1.8 came out on schedule. (pleasantly surprised, but very surprised nonetheless.)

Edited October 2, 2019 by Stone Blue

[kerbiloid]

We should make a horoscope to find out.
Dates of the previous releases are known.

Spoiler

1.7.3	11/07/2019
1.7.2	12/06/2019
1.7.1	30/05/2019
1.7.0	10/04/2019
1.6.1	09/01/2019
1.6.0	19/12/2018
1.5.1	17/10/2018
1.5.0	15/10/2018
1.4.5	26/07/2018
1.4.4	21/06/2018
1.4.3	27/04/2018
1.4.2	28/03/2018
1.4.1	13/03/2018
1.4.0	06/03/2018
1.3.1	05/10/2017
1.3.0	25/05/2017
1.2.2	06/12/2016
1.2.1	01/11/2016
1.2.0	11/10/2016
1.1.3	21/06/2016
1.1.2	30/04/2016
1.1.1	29/04/2016
1.1.0	19/04/2016
1.0.5	09/11/2015
1.0.4	23/06/2015
1.0.3	22/06/2015
1.0.2	01/05/2015
1.0.1	01/05/2015
1.0.0	27/04/2015
0.90.0	15/12/2014
0.25.0	07/10/2014
0.24.2	25/07/2014
0.24.1	24/07/2014
0.24.0	17/07/2014
0.23.5	01/04/2014
0.23.0	17/12/2013
0.22.0	16/10/2013
0.21.1	24/07/2013
0.21.0	24/07/2013
0.20.2	30/05/2013
0.20.1	29/05/2013
0.20.0	21/05/2013
0.19.1	18/03/2013
0.19.0	16/03/2013
0.18.4	14/02/2013
0.18.3	12/02/2013
0.18.2	20/12/2012
0.18.1	03/12/2012
0.18.0	01/12/2012
0.17.1	30/10/2012
0.17.0	19/09/2012
0.16.0	20/07/2012
0.15.2	01/06/2012
0.15.1	31/05/2012
0.15.0	17/05/2012
0.14.4	03/04/2012
0.14.3
0.14.2	27/03/2012
0.14.1
0.14.0	03/03/2012
0.13.3	03/03/2012
0.13.2	26/01/2012
0.13.1	11/01/2012
0.13.0	16/12/2011
0.12.0	11/11/2011
0.11.1	13/10/2011
0.11.0	12/10/2011
0.10.1	13/09/2011
0.10.0	06/09/2011
0.9.0	12/08/2011
0.8.5	18/07/2011
0.8.4	14/07/2011
0.8.3	14/07/2011
0.8.2	13/07/2011
0.8.1	13/07/2011
0.8.0	07/07/2011
0.7.3	24/06/2011

 

Edited October 3, 2019 by kerbiloid

[Arugela]

Average is 34.50649351 days!

Way past due then! 8)

Average per major release(x.0) is about 100 days.

That would be about 10/10/2019.. So, I guess in a week we ask again! 8p

 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Arugela

[kerbiloid]

Ecliptic longitudes of planets.

(For GMT -7h)

Spoiler

Ver	Dat	Dat (check)	Sun	Lun	Mer	Ven	Mar	Jup	Sat	Ura	Nep	Plu	Asc	Desc
1.7.3	11/07/2019	11.07.2019	108.7	222.2	124.0	99.4	125.9	256.0	287.1	36.2	348.6	292.0	107.6	287.6
1.7.2	12/06/2019	12.06.2019	81.1	197.8	102.7	63.9	107.5	259.3	289.1	35.2	348.7	292.6	107.9	287.9
1.7.1	30/05/2019	30.05.2019	68.6	18.6	79.1	48.1	99.1	260.9	289.8	34.6	348.6	292.9	108.4	288.4
1.7.0	10/04/2019	10.04.2019	20.1	78.5	352.5	347.4	66.6	264.3	290.2	31.8	347.4	293.1	112.1	292.1
1.6.1	09/01/2019	09.01.2019	288.7	323.8	276.3	241.9	5.5	253.5	282.4	28.6	344.3	290.9	116.7	296.7
1.6.0	19/12/2018	19.12.2018	267.3	41.9	246.5	221.8	351.4	249.0	279.9	28.7	343.9	290.2	117.1	297.1
1.5.1	17/10/2018	17.10.2018	203.9	299.7	221.0	218.2	313.3	235.3	273.9	30.8	344.1	288.8	122.2	302.2
1.5.0	15/10/2018	15.10.2018	201.9	275.9	218.0	219.1	312.3	234.9	273.7	30.9	344.1	288.8	122.2	302.2
1.4.5	26/07/2018	26.07.2018	123.3	286.4	143.5	167.8	304.4	223.7	273.9	32.5	346.1	289.7	125.9	305.9
1.4.4	21/06/2018	21.06.2018	89.9	190.3	106.7	128.6	309.0	223.9	276.3	31.7	346.5	290.5	126.5	306.5
1.4.3	27/04/2018	27.04.2018	37.0	183.3	10.2	63.2	291.7	229.8	279.1	29.0	345.8	291.3	131.0	311.0
1.4.2	28/03/2018	28.03.2018	7.5	145.6	15.2	26.4	276.0	232.7	278.8	27.3	344.8	291.1	133.7	313.7
1.4.1	13/03/2018	13.03.2018	352.6	304.1	10.7	7.8	267.5	233.2	278.1	26.5	344.3	290.9	134.5	314.5
1.4.0	06/03/2018	06.03.2018	345.6	219.5	360.0	359.1	263.4	233.2	277.7	26.2	344.0	290.7	134.5	314.5
1.3.1	05/10/2017	05.10.2017	192.2	5.9	189.5	168.7	168.9	208.9	262.5	27.1	342.1	286.9	143.3	323.3
1.3.0	25/05/2017	25.05.2017	64.3	56.7	40.0	18.8	83.1	193.6	266.0	26.7	344.1	289.1	148.2	328.2
1.2.2	06/12/2016	06.12.2016	254.6	331.3	274.5	298.5	320.1	197.7	258.4	20.8	339.3	286.1	157.1	337.1
1.2.1	01/11/2016	01.11.2016	219.3	236.2	222.2	256.9	294.2	191.2	254.4	21.8	339.3	285.2	161.0	341.0
1.2.0	11/10/2016	11.10.2016	198.4	313.3	186.7	231.5	279.4	186.9	252.4	22.7	339.7	285.0	162.2	342.2
1.1.3	21/06/2016	21.06.2016	90.3	280.1	73.0	94.3	233.6	165.9	251.8	23.9	342.0	286.6	165.7	345.7
1.1.2	30/04/2016	30.04.2016	40.4	312.2	53.5	30.3	247.9	163.4	255.4	21.6	341.5	287.4	170.5	350.5
1.1.1	29/04/2016	29.04.2016	39.4	299.0	53.6	29.1	248.0	163.4	255.4	21.5	341.5	287.5	170.5	350.5
1.1.0	19/04/2016	19.04.2016	29.7	177.8	49.4	16.8	248.9	163.9	255.9	21.0	341.2	287.5	171.4	351.4
1.0.5	09/11/2015	09.11.2015	226.5	199.6	221.5	180.7	177.8	168.1	245.0	17.4	337.0	283.5	180.3	0.3
1.0.4	23/06/2015	23.06.2015	91.5	168.8	69.4	135.7	89.1	140.2	239.5	20.1	339.8	284.6	185.8	5.8
1.0.3	22/06/2015	22.06.2015	90.6	157.0	68.6	134.9	88.5	140.0	239.6	20.0	339.8	284.6	185.8	5.8
1.0.2	01/05/2015	01.05.2015	40.6	188.4	60.3	82.6	52.3	133.4	243.2	17.8	339.3	285.5	189.8	9.8
1.0.1	01/05/2015	01.05.2015	40.6	188.4	60.3	82.6	52.3	133.4	243.2	17.8	339.3	285.5	189.8	9.8
1.0.0	27/04/2015	27.04.2015	36.7	141.0	54.1	78.0	49.4	133.1	243.5	17.6	339.3	285.5	189.7	9.7
0.90.0	15/12/2014	15.12.2014	263.2	181.5	267.0	275.8	308.0	142.6	239.1	12.6	335.0	282.6	196.8	16.8
0.25.0	07/10/2014	07.10.2014	193.9	358.1	211.9	189.3	256.1	137.0	231.1	14.5	335.2	281.0	199.2	19.2
0.24.2	25/07/2014	25.07.2014	122.3	104.1	107.0	98.1	209.6	122.0	226.7	16.5	337.1	281.8	203.1	23.1
0.24.1	24/07/2014	24.07.2014	121.3	92.0	105.2	96.9	209.1	121.7	226.7	16.5	337.1	281.8	203.3	23.3
0.24.0	17/07/2014	17.07.2014	114.6	1.7	94.6	88.4	205.6	120.2	226.7	16.5	337.2	282.0	203.7	23.7
0.23.5	01/04/2014	01.04.2014	11.5	30.9	349.6	325.2	201.8	101.5	232.6	12.4	336.4	283.5	208.4	28.4
0.23.0	17/12/2013	17.12.2013	265.5	84.4	258.8	298.6	184.7	108.0	228.9	8.6	332.9	280.7	216.8	36.8
0.22.0	16/10/2013	16.10.2013	203.1	349.6	226.9	249.3	150.5	109.7	221.7	10.0	332.8	279.2	217.8	37.8
0.21.1	24/07/2013	24.07.2013	121.6	323.0	104.0	152.1	97.2	96.3	215.0	12.5	334.8	279.7	223.4	43.4
0.21.0	24/07/2013	24.07.2013	121.6	323.0	104.0	152.1	97.2	96.3	215.0	12.5	334.8	279.7	223.4	43.4
0.20.2	30/05/2013	30.05.2013	69.0	319.8	88.3	85.4	59.2	83.9	216.0	11.6	335.4	281.1	226.7	46.7
0.20.1	29/05/2013	29.05.2013	68.1	305.6	86.7	84.1	58.5	83.6	216.1	11.6	335.4	281.1	226.7	46.7
0.20.0	21/05/2013	21.05.2013	60.4	187.8	71.5	74.3	52.7	81.9	216.5	11.3	335.3	281.2	226.8	46.8
0.19.1	18/03/2013	18.03.2013	357.8	72.3	335.6	355.2	4.7	69.8	220.9	7.9	333.8	281.4	228.0	48.0
0.19.0	16/03/2013	16.03.2013	355.9	48.4	335.8	352.7	3.1	69.5	221.0	7.8	333.7	281.4	228.0	48.0
0.18.4	14/02/2013	14.02.2013	325.8	15.8	343.5	315.2	339.6	66.7	221.5	6.2	332.6	280.8	230.7	50.7
0.18.3	12/02/2013	12.02.2013	323.7	349.5	340.8	312.7	338.1	66.6	221.5	6.1	332.5	280.7	231.0	51.0
0.18.2	20/12/2012	20.12.2012	268.8	359.6	253.0	245.1	295.5	69.0	218.6	4.6	330.8	278.9	235.6	55.6
0.18.1	03/12/2012	03.12.2012	251.5	122.6	231.2	223.9	282.3	71.3	216.9	4.7	330.5	278.3	236.0	56.0
0.18.0	01/12/2012	01.12.2012	249.5	98.5	229.7	221.4	280.8	71.5	216.6	4.7	330.5	278.3	236.0	56.0
0.17.1	30/10/2012	30.10.2012	217.3	42.4	240.9	182.1	256.7	75.3	212.9	5.4	330.4	277.4	236.0	56.0
0.17.0	19/09/2012	19.09.2012	176.7	219.8	184.1	134.0	227.6	76.0	208.1	7.0	331.1	277.0	237.8	57.8
0.16.0	20/07/2012	20.07.2012	118.0	131.2	131.5	75.7	189.2	68.2	203.3	8.5	332.6	277.8	243.7	63.7
0.15.2	01/06/2012	01.06.2012	71.2	206.6	77.1	78.7	164.9	57.6	203.2	7.8	333.1	278.9	245.1	65.1
0.15.1	31/05/2012	31.05.2012	70.2	192.0	75.0	79.2	164.5	57.4	203.3	7.8	333.1	279.0	245.1	65.1
0.15.0	17/05/2012	17.05.2012	56.8	16.6	45.0	83.9	159.4	54.1	204.0	7.3	333.1	279.2	245.1	65.1
0.14.4	03/04/2012	03.04.2012	13.9	146.0	353.9	59.7	154.4	43.8	207.1	5.1	332.1	279.5	246.5	66.5
0.14.3
0.14.2	27/03/2012	27.03.2012	7.0	58.2	356.9	53.0	155.7	42.3	207.6	4.7	331.9	279.5	246.7	66.7
0.14.1
0.14.0	03/03/2012	03.03.2012	343.1	98.3	1.0	27.6	163.9	37.4	209.0	3.3	331.1	279.2	249.4	69.4
0.13.3	03/03/2012	03.03.2012	343.1	98.3	1.0	27.6	163.9	37.4	209.0	3.3	331.1	279.2	249.4	69.4
0.13.2	26/01/2012	26.01.2012	305.7	341.6	297.6	344.6	173.1	32.0	209.4	1.6	329.7	278.2	252.8	72.8
0.13.1	11/01/2012	11.01.2012	290.4	134.8	274.4	326.4	172.1	30.8	208.9	1.1	329.2	277.7	253.8	73.8
0.13.0	16/12/2011	16.12.2011	264.0	151.7	244.2	294.5	165.4	30.5	207.1	0.7	328.5	276.8	254.2	74.2
0.12.0	11/11/2011	11.11.2011	228.5	53.4	250.9	251.1	150.1	33.5	203.6	1.0	328.1	275.7	254.3	74.3
0.11.1	13/10/2011	13.10.2011	199.6	32.7	209.7	215.0	134.4	37.4	200.1	1.9	328.3	275.1	255.6	75.6
0.11.0	12/10/2011	12.10.2011	198.6	20.8	208.1	213.8	133.8	37.5	200.0	1.9	328.4	275.1	255.8	75.8
0.10.1	13/09/2011	13.09.2011	170.2	0.1	156.8	177.7	116.4	40.0	196.5	3.1	329.0	274.9	258.7	78.7
0.10.0	06/09/2011	06.09.2011	163.4	272.7	145.8	169.1	112.1	40.3	195.8	3.3	329.1	274.9	259.7	79.7
0.9.0	12/08/2011	12.08.2011	139.3	301.7	147.7	138.1	95.9	39.8	193.3	4.1	329.8	275.2	262.0	82.0
0.8.5	18/07/2011	18.07.2011	115.3	330.9	142.1	107.3	79.1	37.5	191.5	4.5	330.4	275.7	263.1	83.1
0.8.4	14/07/2011	14.07.2011	111.5	279.4	137.5	102.4	76.3	36.9	191.2	4.6	330.5	275.8	263.3	83.3
0.8.3	14/07/2011	14.07.2011	111.5	279.4	137.5	102.4	76.3	36.9	191.2	4.6	330.5	275.8	263.3	83.3
0.8.2	13/07/2011	13.07.2011	110.6	265.9	136.3	101.2	75.6	36.8	191.2	4.6	330.5	275.8	263.3	83.3
0.8.1	13/07/2011	13.07.2011	110.6	265.9	136.3	101.2	75.6	36.8	191.2	4.6	330.5	275.8	263.3	83.3
0.8.0	07/07/2011	07.07.2011	104.9	181.8	128.0	93.8	71.4	35.9	190.9	4.6	330.6	276.0	263.3	83.3
0.7.3	24/06/2011	24.06.2011	92.5	11.2	105.5	77.9	62.3	33.8	190.5	4.5	330.8	276.3	263.4	83.4

 

Edited October 3, 2019 by kerbiloid

[BezKartuza]

October 8th will be released

[scottadges]

20 hours ago, Arugela said:

1.8 is coming out.

Honestly, I just got my 1.7.3 game tuned properly... I won't be updating to 1.8 unless there is some SIGNIFICANT reason to merit an upgrade. And even then, probably not until sometime next year....

(I'm not usually the type to derail the hype train, but honestly after ~14 times reloading various mod sets and praying my then-current career game doesn't break... I'm kinda done with upgrades)

Edited October 3, 2019 by scottadges

[Space Nerd]

I'm going to upgrade after I finished my current mission and all the mods that I need are upgraded.

[KerbolExplorer]

when its ready i really don't whant another 1.4.

Edited October 4, 2019 by KerbolExplorer

[razark]

Every time someone asks, the release gets pushed back three days.

 

Every time someone posts in a thread asking, it's pushed back one day.

[Lisias]

1 hour ago, razark said:

Every time someone asks, the release gets pushed back three days.

Every time someone posts in a thread asking, it's pushed back one day.

So it must be about March or May, 2029, by this time...

[Jacke]

On 10/3/2019 at 8:47 AM, scottadges said:

Honestly, I just got my 1.7.3 game tuned properly... I won't be updating to 1.8 unless there is some SIGNIFICANT reason to merit an upgrade. And even then, probably not until sometime next year....

It's usually at least a month after the release before essential mods are upgraded as well.

[MechBFP]

On 10/3/2019 at 8:47 AM, scottadges said:

SIGNIFICANT reason to merit an upgrade

Latest Unity engine version is pretty significant. 

[scottadges]

2 hours ago, MechBFP said:

Latest Unity engine version is pretty significant. 

(Not knowing what that includes and not being snarky when I say this) Why is the latest version of Unity better?

[Arugela]

I think it has the newer incremental garbage collector as part of it. Not sure on the rest. I'm hoping it stops my stutter issues.

[Stone Blue]

23 hours ago, scottadges said:

(Not knowing what that includes and not being snarky when I say this) Why is the latest version of Unity better?

Well, for one thing DirectX 9 should *finally* be put to Rest In Peace... KSP should now be Dx11 by default, possibly Dx12 for those on Win10.

I have been forcing Dx11, IIRC, since at least when KSP wnet 64bit, and I have always seen a significant performance improvement, as well as ~1GB or lower RAM usage over Dx9... so theres that...
Plus, those of us still forcing Dx11, and having to install Textures Unlimited (basically as a stock dependency), just to get the proper icon shader working in the editor, wont *shouldnt* have to install that anymoar.

But there will be MANY moar improvements I am sure, as there have been many things added/fixed in unity itself since 2017.1
I wont go into moar detail here, as IIRC, there is another thread talking aboot possible improvements with Unity 2019.1.

Edited October 6, 2019 by Stone Blue

[k00b]

dunno but the devs alluded to the answer oct 1 page 3 near the bottom here - (went over my head)

https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/188498-ksp-loading-content%C2%A0for-consoles-and-pc-coming-soon/page/3/

pretty sure it's overhaulling breaking ground / visual and gameplay improvements and also give us new pieces to play with.

but also r2r is coming out...

[zer0Kerbal]

On 10/6/2019 at 1:15 AM, Stone Blue said:

forcing Dx11

how are you forcing KSP to use DX11? might help me.

[linuxgurugamer]

21 minutes ago, zer0Kerbal said:

how are you forcing KSP to use DX11? might help me.

How to force DX11

1. Create shortcut for KSP
2. Open its properties
3. In the target line, add " -force-d3d11" without the quotes (the intial space does matter)
4. Accept/apply changes (you can also add " -popupwindow" for fake full screen mode)

. . . .

Profit!
Now enjoy KSP with 40% less RAM usage

[Barefoot Friar]

16 minutes ago, linuxgurugamer said:

How to force DX11

1. Create shortcut for KSP
2. Open its properties
3. In the target line, add " -force-d3d11" without the quotes (the intial space does matter)
4. Accept/apply changes (you can also add " -popupwindow" for fake full screen mode)

. . . .

Profit!
Now enjoy KSP with 40% less RAM usage

Does this work in Linux, too?  Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit with all packages up to date as of this morning.

[Curveball Anders]

18 minutes ago, Barefoot Friar said:

Does this work in Linux, too?  Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit with all packages up to date as of this morning.

The Linux version is using OpenGL

[zer0Kerbal]

7 hours ago, linuxgurugamer said:

How to force DX11

1. Create shortcut for KSP
2. Open its properties
3. In the target line, add " -force-d3d11" without the quotes (the intial space does matter)
4. Accept/apply changes (you can also add " -popupwindow" for fake full screen mode)

. . . .

Profit!
Now enjoy KSP with 40% less RAM usage

thank you.

my favorite two:

-single-instance

-mm-dump (ModuleManager) - broken this version, fixed next and worked last.

hmmm... icons are all greyed out in editor - tried installing TR - but no joy. still worth it.

correction : installing Textures Unlimited fixed the gray in the editor.

Edited October 10, 2019 by zer0Kerbal

[NoMrBond]

5 hours ago, Barefoot Friar said:

Does this work in Linux, too?  Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit with all packages up to date as of this morning.

For linux you need to use -force-glcore from memory

[Edit] I would guess it's using OpenGL by default now anyway though?

Edited October 10, 2019 by NoMrBond

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2 minutes ago, NoMrBond said:

For linux you need to use -force-glcore from memory

[Edit] I would guess it's using OpenGL by default now anyway though?

Linux only has OpenGL for this.  DX9 and DX11 are Windows specific