Xd the great Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Let's say, hypothetically speaking, Star Theory is unable to deliver the game in 2020 due to issues, but they are able to release an early version (which can be upgraded to full version later for free) of the game that is without some key features. Which features are you willing to forgo for early release in 2020? Also, I am not Star Theory. Edited January 7, 2020 by Xd the great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I voted "Multiplayer" because I have no plans to play that way so if they said "Hey Multiplayer was too hard and we're releasing now because it'll probably take another year to sort it all out" I'd be happier than sad. But really I don't want the game to lack any feature when it releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 7 hours ago, 5thHorseman said: But really I don't want the game to lack any feature when it releases. Early releases to prevent the hype train going into hyperspace. I do hope that they can release it full, but I'd also like an early version if things are taking too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
έķ νίĻĻάίή Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Xd the great said: Also, I am not Star Theory. THAT ONLY MAKES YOU MOAR SUSPICIOUS. RU STAR THEORY????!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 hours ago, έķ νίĻĻάίή said: THAT ONLY MAKES YOU MOAR SUSPICIOUS. RU STAR THEORY????!!!! Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razark Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 13 hours ago, 5thHorseman said: I voted "Multiplayer"... I thought about it, but then decided that I really want multiplayer in at release time. Mainly, because the forum will be a much more bearable place if we don't have a bunch of threads about not having multiplayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargamel Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, razark said: Mainly, because the forum will be a much more bearable place if we don't have a bunch of threads about not having multiplayer. I really don't think it will matter, it will go sideways either way. I personally as a player could do without MP, but understand the public push for it. But I'll be really disappointed if they do release without having a solid game. I've been playing this game for long enough that an extra 6 months to a year wait for the sequel won't bother me at all. I haven't paid for a thing yet, they don't owe me anything yet, I'm not getting bent out of shape if they wait to make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incarnation of Chaos Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'll forgo the game as a whole; i'd rather them delay than ram a half-cooked game down the throats of an already suspicious community. With that all said; what i would like to see is a Preview/Beta/Debug build handed out to the modding community several months in advance. Along with whatever SDK's and utilities they need bundled alongside it; easing the transition of the various modders and incredible community members would be the #1 thing Star Theory could do to relax suspicions in my eyes. Though they'd need to sign an NDA more than likely, so this could've already happened and nobody but the selected recipants and Star Theory would know. But i think it would also be nice for making the best of a bad situation; PR could spin it as such and not look too bad in the process. Oh but i forgot i was on Earth for a minute there, and the current year is 2020.......so none of that has a chance of remotely happening. My initial point stands; i don't want a release until it's finished. No Pre-Orders, Early Access or any other garbage; i have plenty of mods to explore in KSP 1 in the meantime. Though on a side note i feel the only reason we'd see a release instead of a delay in this situation would be 2K being 2K....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 hours ago, razark said: Mainly, because the forum will be a much more bearable place if we don't have a bunch of threads about not having multiplayer. 8 hours ago, Gargamel said: I really don't think it will matter, it will go sideways either way. I was thinking the same thing. If there is no multiplayer, there will be 1000 threads about how much that sucks. If there is multiplayer, there will be 1000 threads about how much something else sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, 5thHorseman said: If there is multiplayer, there will be 1000 threads about how much the implementation sucks Fixed that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Honestly I just wanna an update from @SQUAD or @StarTheory or @Private Division Edited January 8, 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Development updates would be nice. as for what features to forgo for an earlier release... all I have to say about that is I hope it takes years to release just to teach you guys some patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tw1 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I don't want any early release, except for the possibilities for commentary, feedback, and then modification. None of this encouraging the practice of releasing rushed, incomplete games. Especially not if they can afford the development time, and can avoid any "crunch time"; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwaffles2003 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) I wouldn't mind a beta test phase obviously, perhaps even at a lower price (like $20-$30), to which then that price is subtracted from the price of the full game on release for those who had opted in. This would allow the community to play sooner, inspire further hype/outreach, help further funding, speed up bug finding, help those who dont want a bug ridden game avoid one, and T2 still reaps the full cost of the game from us for profit. Sounds like a win-win-win to me... players are psyched, studio speeds along development, and publisher makes good money. Also, this would help ensure more buyers as people who might be hesitant to pay $60 for a game might be more inclined to to purchase at a 30 then 30 or 20 then 40 rate Also, the modding community could start preparing mods before actual release happens The only way this would be seen as a downside is if the product is utter crap (doubt it), to which then it's found out early and no one gets scammed. And if there is a worry as to people buying the beta and not the full game still, leave certain parts out that are core to mid game or late game to incentivize us to purchase the full game or put a DRM in (yup I asked for a DRM... wow 2020 is a weird year) that gets taken out for the full release as they promised one wouldn't be in it Edited January 9, 2020 by mcwaffles2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klapaucius Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I voted multiplayer, but honestly, I could have ticked any of those boxes. I find it interesting to see how a game develops and improves, so am willing to put up some early bugs for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 If anything I want multiplayer before the modding community catches up with new and intresting ways of balancing the game or make it more challenging, so I can have a vanilla run with my friends without arguing for which mods we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steuben Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I'd be prepared to take a hit on graphics, textures, complex lighting and shading, water effects, ground effects, etc. Though I recognize that this won't speed up development much, as graphics tends to be a separate task stream from game code. At least on larger teams. And a lot of effects stuff is handled by the engine and not built in house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 11:44 PM, Xd the great said: No, I will wait till the end of the world for full release. Why is this not the most voted option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwaffles2003 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Bej Kerman said: Why is this not the most voted option? it avoids the actual question, which is essentially "which of the following features is least important upon release?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Bej Kerman said: Why is this not the most voted option? Because more people would rather have KSP2 sans multiplayer than it to not be released before the heat death of the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinoz Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Get the engine right and that includes Multi-player as a way of keeping the engine people focused on efficient calculations and robust state. Also engine needs to be able handle 2 solar systems from get go as well. So not sure anything on the list can be cut as it is needed to be play tested to make sure engine is ticking along correctly and fit for the ongoing purpose of the game. Maybe the interface can be only active in beta mode but even that seems problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnPhillips Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I already got plenty of other games releasing in 2020 that will be taking up my time, Don't even know how I'll manage to get them all in. I can wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I have zero interest in multiplayer so that was an easy vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStaal Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) I'm not voting - but I want to say if I saw an early release without multiplayer that would worry me. Not that I have any interest in multiplayer, it's just that multiplayer is one of the selling points and for something like KSP it needs to be built in from the initial design stages - so if they were trying to add it on at the end, they obviously would be doing something wrong. That said, none of the options really fit me, in my opinion. Edited January 13, 2020 by DStaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion7 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Going to have to go with no multiplayer on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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