Alexoff Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 It's worth noting here that T2 boasted in its shareholder reports that they own a KSP franchise that has sold over 5 million copies. So I highly doubt that less than a million copies can be a success for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Alexoff said: It's worth noting here that T2 boasted in its shareholder reports that they own a KSP franchise that has sold over 5 million copies. So I highly doubt that less than a million copies can be a success for them. To be fair 'they're probably also aware that those 5 million copies did not all sell in the first year of the game's availability. They've time to fix it and recover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexoff Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: To be fair 'they're probably also aware that those 5 million copies did not all sell in the first year of the game's availability. I have my suspicions that they originally wanted a million copies by 2021. In fact, we do not know exactly how much the KSP franchise was sold for and whether its purchase paid off with sales of KSP1 and DLC after 2017. Intercept games have not become famous at all since their inception, from the well-known recent - the release of KSP2 and a paid patch for Outer Worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aziz Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 What does Outer Worlds have to do with Intercept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexoff Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 6 hours ago, The Aziz said: What does Outer Worlds have to do with Intercept? I misspoke, I mean Private Division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketRockington Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 7:00 PM, Alexoff said: I have my suspicions that they originally wanted a million copies by 2021. In fact, we do not know exactly how much the KSP franchise was sold for and whether its purchase paid off with sales of KSP1 and DLC after 2017. Intercept games have not become famous at all since their inception, from the well-known recent - the release of KSP2 and a paid patch for Outer Worlds. They certainly wanted a lot of early sales, given they started with a quickly-shut down marketting barrage, including ads and events. Another reason it's clear that, despite the way some people want to frame this EA as part of some well thought out plan to release an MVP and get feedback on it, it was actually a botched release that was forced on them by poor project planning, a hard date the publisher was not willing to let them delay past, and expectations that the title would be far ahead of where it's currently at + a bunch of after-the-fact justifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexoff Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, RocketRockington said: a bunch of after-the-fact justifications I don’t remember any justifications from the developer, only from the most desperate fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz313th Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 11:36 AM, Alexoff said: It's worth noting here that T2 boasted in its shareholder reports that they own a KSP franchise that has sold over 5 million copies. So I highly doubt that less than a million copies can be a success for them. That's the most important point and the saving grace. They know they are sitting on a goldmine with the KSP Franchise, it's the reason they bought it. But for T2 to succeed, they need to let the devs work on it without pressure and keep funding it, which I believe they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow71 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Buzz313th said: That's the most important point and the saving grace. They know they are sitting on a goldmine with the KSP Franchise, it's the reason they bought it. But for T2 to succeed, they need to let the devs work on it without pressure and keep funding it, which I believe they will. Unfortunately, they have decided to delay updates and new content while feeding us the same line they used for the last three years. "We have no cadence for updates or features, but we swear we are working to make this awesome." Are people tired of being lied to yet? I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGG-GoodGuyGreg Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) This is all a bad joke. If they ever do a refund program I’m signing up for that. Edited April 29, 2023 by GGG-GoodGuyGreg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 20 hours ago, The Aziz said: What does Outer Worlds have to do with Intercept? It's also a Private Division game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow71 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 hours ago, GGG-GoodGuyGreg said: This is all a bad joke. If they ever do a refund program I’m signing up for that. Same here. I'd rather give back the game and get my $50, and then wait for the actual real game they are working on to drop. I'd even be willing to pay more for that than try to play what they gave us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just an observation - but my walking away in frustration the day Patch 2 flopped hasn't hurt. Give yourselves a little space from this. It's pretty clear that for most of us, the game isn't in a playable state - so quit banging your head against the wall. The more I think about Nate's 'lengthy delay' post - the more I support it. I'm guessing that the next drop will be more akin to an overhaul than a patch. At least that's my hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meecrob Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Lol, there's no way it could mean their workforce is cut, nosiree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexoff Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Buzz313th said: But for T2 to succeed, they need to let the devs work on it without pressure I have a feeling that these developers don't work without pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic391 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Here is a short to celebrate progress, its freshly made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 Actually - I think I need to meter my own expectation... I think we will see some HDRP implementation fairly early, since that is merely a feature of the Unity engine. I write 'merely' advisedly (ironically) because that doesn't look all that simple. https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/[email protected]/manual/Upgrading-To-HDRP.html They have a lot of work to do just on this aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexoff Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I don't understand what kind of expectations about HDRP can be when such pixel ladders are observed in the game? (taken from Stratzenblitz) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Alexoff said: I don't understand what kind of expectations about HDRP can be when such pixel ladders are observed in the game? (taken from Stratzenblitz) Turn on AA, maybe? I don't (didn't) have that when I played the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VlonaldKerman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 54 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Turn on AA, maybe? I don't (didn't) have that when I played the game. Even with AA on this seems to happen. Def not a rig issue either- I've got an RTX 4090. I can get 60 fps but still aliasing issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Alexoff said: I don't understand what kind of expectations about HDRP can be when such pixel ladders are observed in the game? If you are talking about the right edge of the door, the real VAB door is made of segments which retract vertically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexoff Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, Vanamonde said: If you are talking about the right edge of the door, the real VAB door is made of segments which retract vertically. It's a joke? In the game, the edge of the hangar door is straight, and the ladder of pixels is a bug in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 40 minutes ago, Alexoff said: It's a joke? In the game, the edge of the hangar door is straight, and the ladder of pixels is a bug in the game. Load up a rover and go check it out - could just be the angle of the camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Vanamonde said: 2 hours ago, Alexoff said: I don't understand what kind of expectations about HDRP can be when such pixel ladders are observed in the game? If you are talking about the right edge of the door, the real VAB door is made of segments which retract vertically. I see unhappy players have resorted to complaining about the topology of the KSC. Like, parts of the topology that are literally there because they imitate the IRL KSC. I am this far from Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TickleMyMary Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, Bej Kerman said: I see unhappy players have resorted to complaining about the topology of the KSC. You've seen one comment from one player, let's not go nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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