tater Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, DDE said: OceanGate's cofounder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050, and says we shouldn't stop pushing the limits of innovation Who's in? (not me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, DDE said: https://www.businessinsider.com/oceangate-cofounder-send-humans-live-venus-atmosphere-2050-titan-sohnlein-2023-7 OceanGate's cofounder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050, and says we shouldn't stop pushing the limits of innovation Perhaps we should be reflecting a little before the sequel eh? Edited August 1, 2023 by Minmus Taster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Minmus Taster said: Perhaps we should be reflecting a little before sequel eh? Rember how Cameron got signed up for 4 Avatar sequels right away? Edited August 1, 2023 by DDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 13 hours ago, tater said: Who's in? (not me) Whyn't? Four times lower pressure on Venus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalswissarmyknife Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, tater said: Who's in? (not me) What could go wrong (everything) Edited August 1, 2023 by Royalswissarmyknife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 What' the problem? There is no water on Venus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 22 hours ago, DDE said: https://www.businessinsider.com/oceangate-cofounder-send-humans-live-venus-atmosphere-2050-titan-sohnlein-2023-7 OceanGate's cofounder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050, and says we shouldn't stop pushing the limits of innovation Sure, I'll just stop by the local gas station, pick up some sushi, then hop in my Ford Pinto and drive over to the launch site. I'll be right there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, kerbiloid said: What' the problem? There is no water on Venus. This guy would manage to find the sole puddle of water in Atacama, and still suffer a swimming accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, Minmus Taster said: Perhaps we should be reflecting a little before the sequel eh? titanic 3: melting flesh. "titanic 2: the hull is fi*squish*" kind of bombed at the box office. couldn't get james cameron to direct. Edited August 1, 2023 by Nuke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunlitZelkova Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 ^ these memes are the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) On 8/1/2023 at 8:05 PM, tater said: featuring 2 kinds of tape! and presumably controled with an nes controller. Edited August 3, 2023 by Nuke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, Nuke said: featuring 2 kinds of tape! and presumably controled with an nes controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 hours ago, TheSaint said: meh, both use the same shift register. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 It's been awhile but I figure this is worth sharing, the US Coast Guard has recovered the remaining debris from the titan; I'm going to discuss the more grim things found in the spoiler section, if your sensitive to what I'm alluding to then you may want to skip it. Spoiler They've also recovered more "presumed" remains, probably just more human jam : ( I also hear a company is producing a movie based off the accident, can't remember most of the details but it's a bit early for monetization isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Minmus Taster said: It's been awhile but I figure this is worth sharing, the US Coast Guard has recovered the remaining debris from the titan; I'm going to discuss the more grim things found in the spoiler section, if your sensitive to what I'm alluding to then you may want to skip it. Hide contents They've also recovered more "presumed" remains, probably just more human jam : ( I also hear a company is producing a movie based off the accident, can't remember most of the details but it's a bit early for monetization isn't it? Compressing gas heat it so probably. Interestingly liquids are treated as non compressible but at this pressures they are and its increase the destructive force significantly over that military submarines has to handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoCalories Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Has anyone else seen that Real Engineering video on the OceanGate sub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 In the American Gods s01e06 the Vulcan smelter was not the safest place to work. Possy Poseidon also wants his share. To make the play fair, it didn't sink every time, it was giving a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 11:57 PM, TwoCalories said: Has anyone else seen that Real Engineering video on the OceanGate sub? Yes and he makes perfect sense. Carbon fiber is great for expanding forces. Decent at sideways one like wings but on the compressive side they don't help that much. But wings only have to handle some g. You cross that limit and you have to do an serious inspection of the craft. That rules exist from personal planes to F-35 but it much stricter enforced on passenger planes. On the other hand military submarines are as removed from the deep diving subs as aircraft's is from spacecrafts. All military subs uses air to control buoyancy, so far down this don't work so you drop ballast. Also divers working at 200 meter down for the oil industry said it was much more like an space walk than scuba as you had an control room reading your medicals. And the diving bell was designed as an life boat for the divers if ship would sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/14/2023 at 12:57 AM, TwoCalories said: Has anyone else seen that Real Engineering video on the OceanGate sub? It never fails to amaze me how "innovators" love to grasp at something that works somewhere, and then apply it to qualitatively and quantitatively different conditions as if they cannot into basic math... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meecrob Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) On 10/17/2023 at 5:07 PM, DDE said: It never fails to amaze me how "innovators" love to grasp at something that works somewhere, and then apply it to qualitatively and quantitatively different conditions as if they cannot into basic math... Yeah, I saw an interview with the guy who designed it, and he basically said that his earlier model worked, so he just scaled it up. It struck me as the same line of thinking as if you knew a Cessna 152 works, you can just scale it up to airliner size without any modifications. What could possibly go wrong? Edited October 19, 2023 by Meecrob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 14 hours ago, Meecrob said: Yeah, I saw an interview with the guy who designed it, and he basically said that his earlier model worked, so he just scaled it up. It struck me as the same line of thinking as if you knew a Cessna 152 works, you can just scale it up to airliner size without any modifications. What could possibly go wrong? I'm more thinking about the people who keep promising water from open-air dehumidifiers. *angry Thundef00t noises* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) i remember when my grandma (who lives in phoenix) would use the runoff from her 1950s original equipment swamp cooler to water her lawn. its a literal piece of garbage, once its over 105 outside the inside gets pretty miserable. i hope they enjoyed the record heat this year. it will help acclimatize them to where they are headed. i don't talk to that half of the family anymore so idk if they upgraded to something that meats modern standards. probibly not with how stubborn granny is. Edited October 19, 2023 by Nuke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) It's more than an year, but this subject never leave my mind, and now I saw this: Manley had similar (but not identical) conclusions as me at that time, but he have now way more information to work with - what at that time was a Thesis for me, now it's an Evidence. What I inferred right: the glue is the most probable cause of failure, probably due unattended stress by being subject to thermal compression and decompression. What I inferred wrong: I thought the point of failure was the rear dome. Perhaps my source of information, that had affirmed that there was no human remains on the rear dome and only on the front one, was wrong. Or perhaps I need to better understand how fluids behave under that circumstances - right now, I don't see how the... (sigh) pulverized human remains (sigh) would be ejected trough the front dome without leaving traces on the back one if the collapse started there. Spoiler And for the people that blatantly yelled at anyone who said that the problem wasn't the carbon fiber hull, all I can say is that "Truth has no answer - It is difficult to argue against facts, we cannot refute what is true. " Making bold statements without knowing the respective facts is, essentially, what's dooming our current civilization. I'm losing respect for some people that I used to admire in the past due what was said about this terrible accident (like some famous filmmakers). That said, it's still possible (perhaps probable) that Titan was a death trap, an accident waiting to happen. We just don't have enough information. What I'm saying is that we lost time making unfunded claims that didn't helped at all to diagnose the problem, and such unfunded claims will make difficult - due the now lack of confidence on the sources - to detect any still uncovered inherent flaw on the system. Edited September 20 by Lisias Better phrasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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