Mr. Kerbin Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 i got a 502 but I read loaded the page and it was gone @Lisias 175601072025 New page! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Mr. Kerbin said: i got a 502 but I read loaded the page and it was gone @Lisias Yep, I got one yesterday too. Apparently, some not exactly friendly 3rd parties are catching up with Forum's new bandwidth. Overall, however, things are still very positive, look: This is the event map for the last week of the December (less colored points is better, none is optimal!) And this is the one for the first week of January (essentially, until yesterday): See how they are slowly coming back to hammer Forum? On a side note, yesterday my site was hammered by one of these <piiiii>. I wonder if they are the same ones hammering Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 1/7/2025 at 2:39 AM, Superfluous J said: It implies it, but remember the forum software is apparently registered by the year/month and it's only renewed until either March or September 2025, depending on if you only believe the forum post, or trust hearsay (not throwing shade just using the term as its defined) from a trusted source. The licence is currently valid until 2 April 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Kerman Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 That was me, sorry I have been quite busy lately and I made a mistake. The forum software was only renewed for 6 months as mentioned in this thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkageless Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 11 hours ago, Deddly said: The licence is currently valid until 2 April 2025. 8 hours ago, James Kerman said: The forum software was only renewed for 6 months as mentioned in this thread: Thanks for the clarifications. I welcome our new overlords and hope they see the value in extending the licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Kerbin Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 hours ago, James Kerman said: That was me, sorry I have been quite busy lately and I made a mistake. The forum software was only renewed for 6 months as mentioned in this thread: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AKSKSKSKSKSKMDMCMMDKWKWOOWKWKSKKS,SD(mental breakdown) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow71 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 1/8/2025 at 2:19 AM, James Kerman said: That was me, sorry I have been quite busy lately and I made a mistake. The forum software was only renewed for 6 months as mentioned in this thread: And this is why I trust posts and not someone saying they got a PM. Nothing against James here - who is a wonderful mod/person, by the way - but Vanamonde's post was the truth of the whole thing. Which now leaves us less than 3 months until D-Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) On 1/8/2025 at 3:52 PM, Linkageless said: I welcome our new overlords and hope they see the value in extending the licence On a side note, failing to renew the license will not be the demise of Forum, the software will still be running - but without support or updates. Not exactly a wise move on the long run, but still not a death sentence. I remember some clauses about reacquiring the license, there's grace period before completely loosing the license and be forced to acquire a new one from scratch, etc. Edited January 10 by Lisias Hate typing on mobile phones. Fixing the mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Kerman Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) Looks like there is some news about the buyout of Private Division: https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/private-divisions-games-and-franchises-including-kerbal-space-program-are-reportedly-being-taken-over-by-former-annapurna-interactive-employees/ Edit: I'm behind the times, discussion here: Edited January 10 by James Kerman Added link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkageless Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 10 hours ago, Lisias said: On a side note, failing to renew the license will not be the demise of Forum, the software will still be running - but without support or updates. Makes sense. The licencing can be renewed at any time and why would essentially a new company want to spend out for longer while it's still establishing itself? Of course, it's going to be a significant cost but not the only one and they have those other operating costs to attend to. It's likely that the forum runs from a few app frontends and a DB cluster, probably all AWS EC2 and RDS instances, all hidden behind CloudFront. I'm further speculating that limiting/scaling back of that way have been part of the cause of the issues recently. (ie - There may have been an unwelcome increase in load, for all I know.) Perhaps this was not helped by a transfer of ownership in progress, meaning the right people had yet to be assigned to get to grips with the situation. I'm glad they got there and things are running well again. To me this shows they (the new owners, as an organisation) not only care but are capable and are attending to it. I have full confidence that this means they will continue to maintain these forums as long as there's an enthusiastic community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 17 hours ago, Lisias said: On a side note, failing to renew the license will not be the demise of Forum, the software will still be running - but without support or updates. Are you sure of that? In my experience, you stop paying the license for licensed software, you stop being able to use that software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow71 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, Superfluous J said: Are you sure of that? In my experience, you stop paying the license for licensed software, you stop being able to use that software. See, I think the thing here is that the license may have just been for support and/or updates to the Invision software, and not necessarily the continued use of Invision. I could be wrong, but that's how I'm reading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, Superfluous J said: Are you sure of that? In my experience, you stop paying the license for licensed software, you stop being able to use that software. Yes. https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/468402-renew-expired-license/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Kerbin Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 1/7/2025 at 5:57 PM, Mr. Kerbin said: i got a 502 but I read loaded the page and it was gone @Lisias 175601072025 New page! Reporting another 502 right now 193510012025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Mr. Kerbin said: Reporting another 502 right now I didn't caught this one on my logs. The last one I have registered is: 2025-01-09T23:25:07Z 502 Bad Gateway But, yeah, the problems are gradually scaling up again. I have some hunches about this subject, however. My personal site was badly hammered this week, and since I'm a maniac archivist, I have detailed logs for all the events (and found some more in the past, now that I know what to look). Let's see if I manage to catch someone's attention without spooking the brats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkageless Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Yes, I had a few 502s an hour or so ago also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDCWolf Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Linkageless said: Yes, I had a few 502s an hour or so ago also. Just experienced a somewhat extended no-response period as well now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Kerbin Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Another one, 12:24 53 to 12:29: 55 11012024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 hours ago, PDCWolf said: Just experienced a somewhat extended no-response period as well now. This one happened to me too. It evolved from 502 to 503, and then to 504 before coming back. On a side note, it looked as some service being rebooted or similar event. In a way or another, my monitoring caught this one. I will publish the charts after midnight Zulu time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTLparachute Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Roses are red Violets are blue I just got hit With a 502 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) Guys, I think Forum is suffering an Event: 2025-01-11T20:19:53Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:20:16Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:20:37Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:21:05Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:21:32Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:22:00Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:22:28Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:22:56Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:24:40Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:25:30Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:25:45Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:25:57Z 504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT 2025-01-11T20:27:24Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:28:06Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:28:36Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:29:03Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:19:30Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:20:07Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:20:34Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:21:01Z 504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT 2025-01-11T23:22:02Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:22:30Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:22:59Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:23:39Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:24:04Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:24:27Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:24:54Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:25:11Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:26:07Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:26:42Z 504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT The MO is some 502, then some 503, and finally a 504 when things get back to normal for some time. This almost surely means that we had exceeded that quota I mentioned before. Why this quota is being exceeded I can't tell - but I dare to guess that Forum is being increasingly hammered by less than friendly actors. === POST EDIT === Conspiracy Theory Mode On Spoiler And then I found this on Reddit: Oh, boy... These guys are not helping on my paranoia. Edited January 12 by Lisias Conspiracy Theory Mode On. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimera Industries Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 55 minutes ago, Lisias said: Guys, I think Forum is suffering an Event: 2025-01-11T20:19:53Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:20:16Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:20:37Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:21:05Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:21:32Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:22:00Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:22:28Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:22:56Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:24:40Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:25:30Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:25:45Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T20:25:57Z 504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT 2025-01-11T20:27:24Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:28:06Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:28:36Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T20:29:03Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:19:30Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:20:07Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:20:34Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:21:01Z 504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT 2025-01-11T23:22:02Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:22:30Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:22:59Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:23:39Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:24:04Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:24:27Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:24:54Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:25:11Z 503 Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity 2025-01-11T23:26:07Z 502 Bad Gateway 2025-01-11T23:26:42Z 504 GATEWAY_TIMEOUT The MO is some 502, then some 503, and finally a 504 when things get back to normal for some time. This almost surely means that we had exceeded that quota I mentioned before. Why this quota is being exceeded I can't tell - but I date to guess that Forum is being increasingly hammered by less than friendly actors. Good grief, if I ask ChatGPT for a Wrong Red Moon post it just might start quoting me word for word now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Slapper Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Lads we're so cooked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow71 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Been getting 502 and 503 errors since yesterday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoVampire Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 6 hours ago, Squirrel Slapper said: Lads we're so cooked Probably so yes. But a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001µm wide sliver of hope exists in the fact theres been movement on ip side of things in terms of we now know who has the ip rights and that the OG kerbal himself HarvesteR has reached out to them to try to start a dialogue. What comes next? No idea. But somethings coming. 140401132024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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