CobaltWolf

It's English text transliterated to Cyrillic. I kinda prefer that it's gibberish.

Yeah, I'm still not that interested in Delta IV, but someone was working on a Delta 3 DCSS for me. It's not going to be here any time soon, but if it ever does get added it'll be harder to justify not just finishing the darn family. For the record, the CBC cores should be 3.125m in game. Finally finished Metro Exodus (review below in the spoiler) so development should be resuming shortly.

As far as I'm concerned the only thing needed for HOSS would be a bespoke tank - and even that can maybe be cobbled together from Long Tank Thor's model and textures. The RL10 has a fairing switcher these days for 1.5m, I'm planning on doing some serious overhauling of the upper stage RCS (more variants, better attachment control, more agnostic so that they can be used nicely with any small upper stage) so that takes care of that, etc. Should be easy to implement and covers one of the few unflown Delta concepts I've ever come across. Speaking of which, I was thinking last night about how easy the geometry for a double barrel Delta adapter would be...

Hmm, alright. Yeah I'm not sure how much it would affect gameplay but it would certainly be interesting, and maybe something of a history lesson. In any case I'm not doing anything with the Centaur parts again any time soon... well, mayyybe the G/T tankage as part of the Titan update. Yeah, the two engine mounts are basically the same just with different nodes and slightly different RCS. I intended for people to use the old Centaur mount for a dual engine Atlas V Centaur. I want to remake the non-Atlas V Centaur parts but like I said the other day they're not an immediate priority, which is why I decided to put the evening or two into adding the built in RCS to the dual-engine mount. If anyone is wondering, since I don't think I elaborated on why we did that change, we kept running into issues between the colliders of the attachable Centaur RCS blocks and the interstages. I already know you want them Zero interest in doing the new Vulcan's Centaur. Hopefully @Superpenguin160's life settles down enough for him to finish his Vulcan mod. If I ever remake the Gemini parts, I feel a proper two-part SM would be more appropriate for BDB these days than it was back when the parts were originally made by Beale. I've never seen those statements on using the retro motors for the Gemini abort modes, are you sure? There was a Big G LES tower in @tg626's TRAILS fork, but I don't know if the quality is good enough to port it back to BDB. The N-I and N-II rockets are basically a Delta M and a Delta 1000-series, respectively. Various parts were replaced by domestically produced parts at different points, for example the N-I's LE-3 second stage engine. Pappy, you're getting ahead of yourself. We're not talking about the DCSS or the H-II upper stage, Kerbal01 was talking about the H-I upper stage which is similar. The document I linked describes things pretty clearly, and was pretty interesting to read. The HOSS is made out of Thor tank segments (the proposal predates Delta II by 20 years), with every component essentially being off the shelf or dead-simple integration work like the new structural interstage. They go through pains to point out that HOSS would have sacrificed efficiency at every opportunity in exchange for cost reductions, reliability, and being able to use off the shelf components. Despite this the payload numbers compare favorably to the much later Deltas, with larger/more solids, larger first stage, and a larger second stage. I'm sure if HOSS flew it would have been part of the incremental upgrade scheme that the Delta program has always favored, and thus they'd slowly improve the efficiency and performance losses caused by the relatively inefficient construction in the study. It's interesting that they didn't plan on giving it an 8ft fairing, considering the Delta 1000-series would soon fly with an 8ft fairing and encapsulated upper stage. They do mention using a 10ft Titan fairing, since that would be taken from something like a Titan 3D I imagine that would give it a look similar to the Delta 10ft metallic payload fairing (second from left below).

I'm currently unhappy with them but don't know when they'll get revamped. I would like to do it some day. Basically, any part that I already touched up but only wound up messing with the textures is on the list for eventual revamp because they really should have all been remade from scratch. Of course, the RL10s aren't up to snuff either but I really don't want to redo them considering I just put the effort into making 2 new ones in the last update... Out of curiosity, if we could figure out how to actually model the detachable insulation panels of the older Centaurs would people be interested, or is that too complicated? I always felt it was too complicated to be worth doing but given the more realistic/detailed direction of the mod these days...

If it makes you feel any better, I often lose track as well. I only just learned several days ago that the LR-87-AJ11 and LR-91-AJ11 didn't debut with the Titan IV...

Oh, if someone is wondering about that "Delta K" in the unflown Deltas page, I believe it is using the HOSS upper stage, which I plan on including in the eventual Thor revamp. https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19680024929.pdf

Are you connecting them via the right click menu? Been a while since I even opened this in game, I don't recall what the actual button label is. Basically you have to attach a power connector to each node, then right click one to start the 'pipe', then move to the other one and use its right click menu to finish the pipe.

The Skylab antenna are tricky to place. I place them in mirror symmetry (R in the VAB) with the mounts 'vertical', on the edge of the fairing 'start point' at the ends of the struts on either side of the airlock. Then I use the translation gizmo to move them slightly in and down. Yeah, plus we're holding off on doing wiki work for stuff that's planned to be redone... which is basically everything other than Atlas and the stuff in the most recent update Starting to feel the itch to work on BDB again and taper off my Metro playtime. It's so good tho... in the meantime, here's something I think people on this thread will enjoy. @TimothyC shared these amazing works from over on Shipbucket by user BB1987. You probably have to open them in a new tab to see the glory. Can't wait to see the Titan stuff he's working on, though I'm pretty sure, surprisingly, that will have the fewest variants out of all of these! Or perhaps not, since he seems to be accounting for minor differences in things like fairing height and paint scheme. I'd hazard to say something functionally equivalent to all the Atlas variants are buildable in BDB, the Thor/Delta stuff will have to wait until the next update, when I'm planning on redoing the Thor/Able/early Delta parts at a much higher level of detail and accuracy.

People really shouldn't be installing the extras folder unless they're willing to go through the configs and read them to understand what they're doing. It's not "BDB but more" it's "we're hosting personal configs that other people made so they don't get lost". As a veteran of the first two, this one is absolutely brutal in comparison. The start was a train wreck (no pun intended) as the game frantically tries to get to the status quo at the end of the third book but after that it gets a lot better. It's not perfect by any means, and still carries a lot of the flaws of its predecessors. But to me none of it is a deal breaker and when the game is good (and it often is), it's really really really good. This is the first game I've been excited to buy on release since Fallout 4 (which, some may remember, I rushed out the original BDB Atlas parts to get a release out so I could play... so... 3 1/2 years?) so its kind of a big deal for me. I'd estimate I'm... maybe halfway through what I know is in the game, based on the trailers etc. After that dev work will resume as normal.

That solar panel is so cool...

@Pappystein The ACS pack has a spherical tank under the housing, here's the model I sketched out a while back I was considering having the white conical exhaust tips on the AJ11's shrouded variant. More small progress, I'm warming up to the first stage tank a little more but I imagine there will still be dissent in the ranks. The second stage needs to be scrapped and remade, the interstage needs to be remodeled to correct the proportions (the struts between the holes are too big). Btw, there will probably be some level of hiatus after tonight seeing as Metro Exodus releases tomorrow and that's like, the only new game I am interested in for 2019.

You're way faster at making engines than me

There's going to be one engine to represent the AJ5/AJ7 together. It will just be a little detail. What ground lit AJ11s? The shrouded versions of the engines will have to include some sort of modified exhausts anyways. Ugh, now you've got me thinking about how I essentially have to create extra variants of each engine for the shrouded versions...

Thank you! Something I caught that I'd sort of been ignoring in launch photos, but the GLV exhaust pipes seem really short compared to the other reference I have. Maybe I'll make that part of the "shroudless" LR-87-AJ7 mesh (along with the air scoops) and then keep the longer ones for the shrouded Titan 3 version.

@damonvv made a Titan launch clamp for Tundra Space Center, which frankly you should be using ANYWAYS with BDB especially as he keeps making new pads (well, I think he's focusing on other stuff for the moment). His LC-19 (GLV pad) in particular is awesome! You can see the 4 brighter squares in the image I posted, I'm humming and hawing over how to do it. I really want the Titan 2 parts to be capable of representing both versions without needing a ton of switching, besides having GLV / full gray paint schemes for the first stage. The ACS packs are going to be shared with the Transtage. The 'stringer' construction looks awful right now, I wouldn't release them as they are. But I also haven't played with the tank textures much yet... I have plenty of SRMU reference, but thanks. Not quite worried about that yet. And, one of our researchers basically lives at the NMUSAF, so I can have all the Titan IV photos I want from there. The AJ3, AJ7, and AJ11 will all have their proper colored bells (though the AJ3 is basically white as well..?), I haven't made a decision on the -LH2 variants other than "I don't want to do a ton of extra work for them". With that said, the nozzles are probably the easiest parts to texture... I'm basically trying to get through all the 'base' variants of these and then I can see what sort of texture space I'm left with. Speaking of @damonvv... he was kind enough to make this. And @JadeOfMaar was kind enough to keep refining the custom plume for the LR-87 series (or at least, the AJ7 and AJ11).

Some small progress from last night - slight refinements to the first stage, and a draft of the second stage textures with probably the worst UV unwrap I've ever done, no seriously it's hideous I don't know what I was thinking. I am starting to hate the 'stringer' look that Titan has (and frankly, I can't see them at all in the majority of the GLV photos I have...) because it doesn't look... good. But I also haven't played with it too much past my first experiments with the first stage tank texture (which basically hasn't been touched since) so I'll see what I can do about it. Interstage model is obviously unfinished. I need to put some more effort into understanding the weird panel arrangement of the second stage, and pray my UVs don't preclude anything and make me start over... Sorry for not having a closer up picture of the second stage tank, I didn't think to take one last night. Want to call a little attention to some refinement I've done to the first stage as well. The 4 ribs (I believe they are the hold down points at the bottom, so it's a vertical reinforcement to transmit to load of the rocket into the pad until takeoff) are shaped much better now and capture the sort of 'flared' silhouette that I've noticed in a lot of images of the Titan 2. Additionally, I modeled in the air scoops on either side of the LR-87, which I noticed in a lot of the Titan GLV images. Like I said, the 'stringer' construction is hard to see or even absent from the GLV images I have... Well, hopefully I'll have plenty of time to keep playing with the tank textures tonight, maybe get the exterior of the interstage done. I can already see I need to extend the white part of the first stage a bit higher. Also, @Pappystein no I'm not removing the ablative part of the LR-91 bell it's pretty distinctive. Note the air scoops on either side, forgive the overdone hold down ribs (they protrude a bit less now than when I took this screenshot) and the weird normal artifacting on the stringers. For reference, a good 23G pic and a good GLV pic. They should be pretty high res if you follow the link. Note the hold down ribs and air scoops, respectively. Trying to make this simple stack visually interesting however I can.

I missed that this was the CADS port. I didn't make those parts - they were made by CXG before he left and then adapted (read: resized to 0.9375m) for BDB. But, I can't imagine it would be particularly difficult or troubling to model the colliders for the fins. I believe there was also a line in the cfg that made it try to automatically snap to certain angles (ie the magnetic pull also will try to align the petals at whatever increment they are rotationally)

Nice builds! And welcome to the forums @Machinique! Not sure what you're talking about, I assume you're referring to more than just the 'KSP joints are basically wet noodles unless you autostrut / use KJR' issue? F1 key drops a screenshot into the Screenshots folder of your KSP install, I just go in there, find the good ones (it's like real photography - just keep hammering the shutter and then find a couple really good ones later) and upload to Imgur to share. Finally feeling better! This week sounds like it might be pretty busy at work, but my SO also works every evening until my usual bedtime... hopefully I'll have energy to use that time on making progress. I'm feeling a little frustrated with the LR-91 (I made some small progress last night but nothing worth posting), it's not really feeling right yet. I think I might put some time into the tanks or something. Maybe once the second stage is coming together I'll have a better feel for it all.

Well, I'm not feeling all that better, but I crawled back to the office today... Might as well try and respond to some stuff between meetings. BDB is a living mod, so there's really no way I can promise that there won't be ongoing craft-breaking changes. We try to avoid them when we can, and hopefully the new stuff moving forward won't need to have any short of some fundamental change we are required to make to maintain compatibility or some such. However, I will chime in to say that, similar to how many people defer updating KSP to prevent their mods from breaking, there is nothing wrong with sticking with an old version of BDB until you are ready to update your crafts. I was curious, because I don't remember making changes to the Saturn parts this update, but I checked the Github history of the part and found the commit in question. I'm still a little out of it so I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what exactly the change was just by looking. Incidentally, we are getting a bit better at using Github and the v1.5.1 release was a nice little test run of how we will manage things moving forward. One side effect is we basically got a set of patch notes for free when I merged the dev branch into the main branch, so it'll be easier to prepare real change logs. They probably won't include every single change, but save breaking changes in particular will be easier to find and thus highlight in the change log. I know @Jso used to have one but I don't think they actually matched that well. Procedural Parts, while I understand its place, doesn't really lend itself to looking nice in the first place. As much as I'd like to have better organized VAB part lists, I don't want to go crazy with that sort of stuff unless there's precedent. We were eagerly looking forward to the integration of Gotmachine's fork of B9 Part Switch but as @Saltshaker said, he seems to have disappeared since October. I posted a gif he sent me a couple months ago, showing the SRMU parts condensed into a single part that was selectable. I don't want to go too crazy with that if it ever gets added, especially because I don't want to have too many things hidden, but I was looking forward to using it. A short list of a couple examples of what we wanted to be able to do with it, which for some reason skews towards SRBs: Condense the radial and inline variants of the Titan SRBs Maybe condense all the UA120X SRBs into a single part, which also would let us add more variants (like the missing 3,4, and 6 segment boosters, the last of which flew IRL) without feeling guilty about part list bloat Add the SR-118 variant of the Castor-120 (10-15% shorter, much higher thrust but less total impulse) Add a sea level variant of the SR-119 (for the Eaglet LV family proposed in the 90s I hesitate to go as far as to, say, condense an entire family of fuel tanks, or engines, into a single part like that. But it would theoretically be possible if those features ever finished getting integrated into B9. Great to see this updated! I still am hoping for the "we weren't obvious about having to include the Instrument Unit" solution because it means nothing is broken and needs fixing. So, I was feeling pretty crappy yesterday, but I did get to UV unwrap the LR-91-AJ5/7 and get a small start on texturing it - it's still very WIP, obviously. My understanding is that some of the AJ5/7s may have had the brown/orange looking bell extension, but I'm saving that for the AJ11 variants to help keep them distinct from the others. Apologies for the low res, I had to jump off in a hurry last night. Cleaning up all these engines and rigging them to get them in game is going to be a mess... I'm trying to not think about that too much for now - I am just trying to get all the models and textures put together, since some of the variants will have to be cobbled together from others. As you can see, the 'compact' variant of the LR-91 won't be all that compact. I had a general plan to have the single-bell variants of the LR-87 basically reuse the LR-91 model, just with the LR-87 thrust chamber. Anyone have feelings on that? The vernier will be removed as well, obviously.

I like to trust my players to not be dumb, but results can vary.

Incredibly exciting to see you return to this! We needed a new ISS mod.

Oops, didn't finish. My girlfriend passed on a stomach bug or flu or something, so that post was written over the course of like 4 hours with me alternately passing out and running to the bathroom.

Yeah, it didn't separate in real life. Shoot, thought I fixed that. I'm sure we could find something or other to replace it. So, uh, this has all been a big misunderstanding. I was under the impression that it would simply be represented in game as a higher thrust / lower ISP and vice versa. There is already a Titan separation motor in the mod. Not planning on doing more tiny solids, more adapters are necessary, I might redo Centaur at some point so I'll take care of the interstage then, I want to redo the Castor-1 Did you add the S-IVB Instrument Unit on top of the main workshop?

Ah, missed that. I was looking for something further down in the copy. I meant, wasn't being able to change the mixture ratio to get more efficiency later in the burn, when TWR wasn't as much a concern, the entire reason for having it adjustable in flight?