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  1. I thought that the general consensus was that unmanned tech and exploration should come before sending kerbals out, like in real life, but I think we need a poll. I also added a question about the progression for aircraft and rocketry. All these are very important for the incentives structure of the game for the Science mode update. It's a major game design decision to make the player explore by sending probes first like in real like or limiting utility of probes because of lack of control. Especially because there is the lack of limitations imposed by life support, which would have made progression more natural by incentivising unmanned missions. Also I reached the limit for the number of questions, but do you think tech progression should unlock the smallest rocket diameter first or should miniaturization come later in the tree?
  2. I started building a Mun station, where I had a core module and a lander I had a two-stage ship ready to dock to the "MSS" Fuel (to my lander after landing on the Mun) Probe launcher (lander and orbiter) The original idea was to send my orbital probe in an escape trajectory of Kerbin, using the Mun to slingshot the probe and then slow down to match the orbit of the MSS, launch the lander probe (to land on the Mun) and then dock with the station to provide fuel in the future. I however had two issues: I chose XS docking port instead of a S port for my vessel My probe lander docking port decided to disappear, when I launched my orbiter probe I launched the orbital probe successfully, but at the cost of a docking port disappearing for my lander (which could now not be undocked) Then I realised my mistake of attaching the incorrect docking port, as I approached the Mun station Then after some issues with time warp, I decided to scrap this ship. So I separated the 2 probes to do some scouting instead The probe launcher part (with the stuck lander) was sent to Duna as I had plenty of fuel to land there The fuel part was sent to Minmus, where I landed at the north pole: Eventually I did a separate mission where I added more docking ports (both XS and S) to the Mun station and I think the final product looks very cool! The orbiter probe and Minmus landing are featured in two of my bug reports that include videos if you're interested to see them
  3. Video below shows engineless probe with crazy orbit changes. Timewarp seems to also have an effect
  4. I would like to see these parts below in addition to ones that were already existing on KSP1. Science A telescope with a variety of wavelengths would be great. So we could earn the science point and also earn the images of the astro-areas which indicated by the navball. Visible light telescopes (Hubble-like) X-ray telescope (like XRISM or ASTRO-D) Infrared telescopes (like JWST) We need an exoplanet search telescope like Kepler or TESS! This would combine the main elements of the traditional KSP and 2. Exoplanet search telescope A sample catcher (a device that would allow a probe to collect surface samples of a planet. As a probe fanatic, I would like to see a method that does not rely on Kerbals! I would like to see it implemented by choosing from the corer method used in MMX or the gas vacuum cleaner method used in Osiris Rex. There should be a greater gap on earning science points between Recover and Transmission to emphasis the features of the sample return.) Landing technology Airbags (traditional EDL technology used on Opportunity & Spirit, Luna 9, and more recently OMOTENASHI (sorry it didn't work out). This technology is not suitable for large spacecraft. It should be made to break under large weight.) Power+α The new retractable paddles were great, but we need a wider variety of solar panels. Cross paddles like PHYCHE and JUICE. Vertical medium sized paddles like MMX and World View 3.(We also need a mechanism to fix the angle of the paddles.) And at last, we need a solar-powered sail like the IKAROS or OKEANOS! A solar-powered sail will receive sunlight and generate huge amounts of power while producing a small (but tremendous) amount of delta-v! This is a technology that could be used for interstellar flight. Please let me know what parts you guys want too.
  5. Crimson Vanguard Mission. Objective: taking screenshots of Duna. Crimson Vanguard is a probe desined to serve a communication relay above Duna for future mission on the surface of Duna or Ike. It is launched on a Krocket III rocket. On the pad: Somewhere above the ocean Somewhere very high above the ocean. Or was it above a continent? Transfer to duna (requires a mid-course correction of achieve target's interception.) Into the interplanetary space! Duna is visible. Closing in! Above duna. End orbit AP-130KM / PE-69KM. No fuel left.
  6. ProbiTronics (PT) ProbiTronics is all about specialized probes and parts that help with reusability of rocket stages. For Kerbal Space Program. This add-on adds eighteen (18) probe and reusability focused parts to the KSP game. By zer0Kerbal, originally by @tdubic adopted with express permission and brought to you by KerbSimpleCo Part Catalog SP-1 - reusable sample probe for bringing samples back to Kerbin. LA-1m and LA-2m - Leg Adapter give you ability to use stock legs on longer engines. RB-721 - more than just a rover body Service Modules Mk0 0.625m Command Pod Mk I MkI 1.25m MkII 2.5m Command pod MK1-3 MkIII 3.75m thermometer sensor barameter sensor Probe Reusability Stack 0.3125m, 0.625m 1.25m, 2.5m, 3.75m probe, decoupler and parachute compartment in one With these parts you can make your rocket much more reusable Ball Probe small probe for taking data from planets atmosphere Science: Barometer sensor Advanced Atmospheric Research (AAR): custom science experiment Put ball probe parachute on top, and heat shield on bottom G-probe probe Science: measuring gravitational and magnetic fields Magnetic Field Scanner (MFS) Includes communication antenna (Jeb insisted) SAS Xenon Gas tank Automatic Transport Vehicle (ATV)) is used for transporting resources and supplies (like: food, oxygen, fuel and other stuff) to space Don't forget to attach some engine, thrusters, and solar panels. See More Discussions and news on this mod: See Discussions or KSP Forums Changelog Summary for more details of changes : See ChangeLog Known Issues for more details of feature requests and known issues : See Known Issues GitHub Pages : See Pages Help Wanted Localization Installation Directions 1 Use CurseForge/OverWolf App (currently does not install dependencies) or Dependencies Kerbal Space Program 2 Supports Either 3 Module Manager Module Manager /L On Demand Fuel Cells (ODFC) 3 GPO (Goo Pumps & Oils') Speed Pump (GPO) red box below is a link to forum post on how to get support Be Kind: Lithobrake, not jakebrake! Keep your Module Manager up to date Credits and Special Thanks @tdubic for creating this glorious parts addon! see Attribution.md for more comprehensive list Legal Mumbo Jumbo (License provenance) How to support this and other great mods by zer0Kerbal Footnotes this isn't a mod. ;P ↩ may work on other versions (YMMV) ↩ Be Kind: Lithobrake, not jakebrake! Keep your Module Manager up to date! ↩ ↩2
  7. [This challenge can be completed in stock I believe. I've never tried, not good enough XD, also good if you are using an interstellar mod as well.] Here at Sloth Exploration Technologies, we believe that we could do with expanding our sphere of influence across the system. We have a large challenge, but nothing you shouldn't be able to handle! We want you to set up full colonies on every body in the Kerbol System, so we can expand beyond! Objectives: Fully Colonise Kerbin: Put 5 relay probes into Kerbin orbit. Build a space station in Kerbin Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Kerbin's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise The Mun: Put 5 relay probes into Munar orbit. Build a space station in Munar Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on The Mun's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Minnmus: Put 5 relay probes into Minnmus orbit. Build a space station in Minnmus Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on The Minnmus's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise The Sun: Put 5 relay probes into Solar orbit. Build a space station in Solar Orbit. Fully Colonise Moho: Put 5 relay probes into Moho orbit. Build a space station in Moho Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Moho's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Eve: Put 5 relay probes into Eve orbit. Build a space station in Eve Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Eve's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Gilly: Put 5 relay probes into Gilly orbit. Build a space station in Gilly Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Gilly's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Duna: Put 5 relay probes into Duna orbit. Build a space station in Duna Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Duna's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Ike: Put 5 relay probes into Ike orbit. Build a space station in Ike Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Ike's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Dres: Put 5 relay probes into Dres orbit. Build a space station in Dres Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Dres's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Jool: Put 5 relay probes into Jool orbit. Build 2 space stations in Jool Orbit. Fully Colonise Laythe: Put 5 relay probes into Laythe orbit. Build a space station in Laythe Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Laythe's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Vall: Put 5 relay probes into Vall orbit. Build a space station in Vall Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Vall's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Tylo: Put 5 relay probes into Tylo orbit. Build a space station in Tylo Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Tylo's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Bop: Put 5 relay probes into Bop orbit. Build a space station in Bop Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Bop's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Pol: Put 5 relay probes into Pol orbit. Build a space station in Pol Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Pol's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface. Fully Colonise Eeloo: Put 5 relay probes into Eeloo orbit. Build a space station in Eeloo Orbit. Build 3 EVA experiments on Eeloo's Surface Build and launch 3 ground bases for landing on the surface.
  8. Hello, its my debute in this community! When i started playing KSP (1.3.1) I found some strange thing. Mk-1 Cockpit have a Gyrodine but we need to unlock it before launching any Sattelite. This means that we need to launch human in space in order to get science to unlock it before your "Sputnik" Which is seems stupid. That CAN be solved by modifications of the game but its boring yeah? When first playing i made this challenge to myself and couldn't do it because of some problems I didn't know about LV-T45 "Swivel" But in Official Missions for Making History I found myself in the same trap and when i attached RCI I thought why not to offer this Challenge for you? I think you are capable enough of this! Rules: Pardon for any mistakes i make - English isn't my first launguage Have Fun!
  9. Having played with KSP on hard mode, I found it quite annoying that you don't get full CommNet coverage of Kerbin when you are in orbit unless you are very high. I kept losing control of vessels with only probe cores when I was launching or attempting to do a re-entry burns, so I thought that I'd create a map so I could see the altitude you need to have CommNet a signal when in hard mode (or when you've set the Occlusion Modifier to 1.0). I ended up creating two, one for orbital heights (75km to 250km) and one for surface heights (10m to 60km). Each colour patch indicates where there is no CommNet signal at a given altitude. The most interesting bit is that there is a large CommNet blackspot East of the KSC, just about the place that you might be attempting to circularise and it goes very high, this means that launching a vessel with just probe cores onboard really needs a relay satellite to be in place first. Looking at the map, it looks like an initial relay satellite might be best launched into a polar orbit giving you much more time (via North Station One) to circularise before you lose connection. I've done a bit of testing and it does seem to match the reality of the game. Hopefully these will be helpful to people Orbital Heights Large (4096 x 2048) and Small (1024 x 512) Surface Heights Large (4096 x 2048) and Small (1024 x 512)
  10. I had a rocket set up for a duna mission but forgot to get a good transfer window, so I went to jool! I've barely done a manned Mun landing and am already getting to Jool. I'm freaking out right now. I don't do manned missions outside of Kerbin orbit, so this is unmanned, but I still feel really proud.
  11. Почитал ветку Понял что нужны ретрансляторы, ок. Вытащил в космос бпла с возможностью удаленного управления Горизонд ГЕКС2, навесил на него ретранслятор HG-5 Вытащив космос кабину Mk3-9, есть "точка удаленного управления", посадил туда двух пилотов. К ней тоже прицепил ретранслятор HG-5. Навел ретрансляторы друг на друга. (set terget в меню ретранслятора) Используется мод RemoteTech, появилсь коричневая линия связи. Увел оба корабля в зону невидимую для KSC. Линк меду ними, вроде, есть, но управления БПЛА нет. Что я не доделал? Картинка
  12. I am trying to control a probe core with a pilot in a nearby lander can. It appears that my understanding of the mechanics of remote probe control is not even remotely accurate. Here's the components I tried at first, which didn't work: Mk2 Lander Can, with a 5-star Pilot. No antenna. Second crew member is an Engineer. RC-001S Probe Core (1.25 m flat one..), no antenna. Neither vessel is in range of Kerbin, which is why I'm trying remote probe control. Neither vessel has an antenna, because I assumed the internal antennas would work at close range. The range is very short, the vessels will be within 1 km of each other when I need to remotely control the probe. I had assumed that a Pilot in a nearby capsule (within antenna range) could control a probe core remotely. I think I'm missing something, but not sure what.
  13. I took a little Inspiration by the projected Sample Return Purpose of the new Mars Rover and made something of that kind in KSP
  14. Hello fellow KSP folks! I'm hoping the kind souls in this community can help me avoid actual maths as I plan to launch a mega-relay network in the Kerbol system. Here is my (probably well-overbuilt) CommNet relay / direct communications probe: My main question: How much signal power will I realistically be getting? Can I guess-timate this without actually doing the math work here or here. Specs: 9x RA-100 = 100G x 9 = 900G 4x Communotron 88-88 (Tweakscaled to 220% because, aesthetics) = 484G x 4 = 1,936G 1x RC-01S = 5K My goal is to have six of these orbiting around Kerbol at a decent distance to cover the entire solar system. I'm playing with the Outer Planets mod, so I've got to get signal all the way out to Neidon and maybe even Plock. Appreciate all your help! (Also moderators, please if this question/topic is not in the correct forum, please go ahead and put this in the right place.)
  15. The steep learning curve of KSP means that most players never make it to orbit, and that only a tiny fraction of people who download the game ever make it out of Kerbin's gravity field. People need help! So I made this tutorial is about how to send a probe to the surface of Eve. Here are the required skills: Be able to use these instructions to download this craft from KerbalX. Be able to open the craft in the VAB and click launch (not right away, though). Pretty much nothing else. Here is a list of key bindings if you get yourself confused. The helpful controls are in Flight Controls. You don't have to use the NavBall; you don't have to use WASDQE at all; you don't have to make maneuver nodes; and you don't have to design a super complicated rocket. I don't even say the word "transfer window". Perfect for brand new players! Following are the instructions. Important parts are bolded for extra emphasis.
  16. Sending a probe to Laythe. server discord: https://discord.gg/EJmz3kE
  17. Hello all Kerbonauts, Would you like the chance of flying a REAL satellite around Kerbin? Do you want to simulate a true to life satellite constellation that (in real life) images at 1 metre resolution? Then look no further Surrey Satellite Technology Limited (SSTL) has teamed up with Coatl Aerospace to deliver a KSP version of SSTL's very own 300S1 satellite! SSTL satellite constellations provide daily orbital multi-spectral images to aid in mapping of environmental changes, vital for agriculture, disaster response and research. This download includes the 300S1 satellite and its payload adaptor. The KSP version of this capable satellite is a self-contained satellite part, equipped with all the subsystems required to keep it operational. The KSP satellite includes a representative imager, communication system, power generation and storage system, propulsion system and AOCS with representative dynamics. The satellite is available in career mode from the Advanced Exploration node, and includes Module Manager config files supporting for the following mods: DMagic Orbital Science Remote Tech SCANsat Textures Unlimited Download Spacedock - Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd. - Satellite Pack Curseforge - Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd. - Satellite Pack SSTL and Coatl Aerospace hope you enjoy playing with their creation and we can’t wait to see how you use this in your Kerbal Universe! Please post images below of your SSTL 300S1 satellites in space! Future plans SSTL and Coatl Aerospace are planning on expanding the range of SSTL satellite platforms within this satellite pack. So keep an eye out for future updates and make sure you follow this thread! Challenges Check out the Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd. - Constellation Forming Challenges to find interesting ways of using our parts in your game. Start Your Career in Outer Space If you want to take a leap from the digital world and build satellites for real, you should check out the SSTL Careers page. About SSTL Surrey Satellite Technology Limited (SSTL) is the world's leading small satellite company, delivering operational space missions for a range of applications including Earth observation, science, communications, navigation, in-orbit servicing and beyond Earth infrastructure. The company designs, manufactures and operates high performance satellites and ground systems for a fraction of the price normally associated with space missions, with 500 staff working on turnkey satellite platforms, space-proven satellite subsystems and optical instruments. Since 1981, SSTL has built and launched more than 50 satellites for 20 international customers – as well as providing training and development programmes, consultancy services, and mission studies for ESA, NASA, international governments and commercial customers, with an innovative approach that is changing the economics of space. Headquartered in Guildford, UK, SSTL is part of Airbus. www.sstl.co.uk About Coatl Aerospace: Coatl Aerospace is a proud supporter of unmanned exploration. Check out ProbesPlus! for more satellite and science parts to add to your KSP collection! License: This mod is shared under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International (CC BY-NC-ND 4.0) licence.
  18. KSP.AI(All Unmanned, All the Time) Probes only... No Squishy Pilots... Carrier Mode... Table of Contents: KSP.AI.Mission(1, “Escape the Atmosphere”); KSP.AI.Mission(2, “To Orbit!”); The Kerbin-Science-mk1 & code KSP.AI.Mission(3, “To Da Mun!”); KSP.AI.Mission(4, “Sat Delivery”); KSP.AI.Mission(5, “Munar Science Run”); KSP.AI.Mission(6, “Munar Station Assembly”); KSP.AI.Mission(7, “Munar Base”);
  19. The Bahamuto Science Drill certainly is a very handy Part for Probes. Unfortunately that Thing is MASSIVE and doesn't really fit onto most Probe Cores; not to mention the RoveMate Rover Body (I like Rovers). It can't be scaled down by TweakScale either, what would make Sense in my Opinion since a lot of Probes carry Experiments like that-just reasonably sized. I know that the Interstellar Mod includes this Drill in a tweakable and rerunnable Version but I am a bit reluctant to install Interstellar now because it wrecks the Dawn Engine which I am using in some Probes that would the become useless. So I've been trying a bit to either way make the "stock" Bahamuto Drill tweakable or "extract" it from Interstellar. None of that really worked. I then came up with the Idea to add this Sample Extraction Function to the Drill-O-Matic (Junior of course) stock Parts instead. So here is my Question: Can I just copy the "Science Module"-Section from the Bahamuto to the Stock Drills .cfg-Files or is there anything else I have to keep in Mind? I did some minor Tweaks to the Game Files before, like increasing the Stress Tolerance of Wheels after they kept mysteriously breaking evenwithout much Stress on Eve, un-hiding the Mk 1-2 Pod from the Tech Tree or increasing the Mass of some OP lightweight Parts (Big Khleb...). But I wasn't succesful at adding "new" functions to Parts, as said above.
  20. Probe: 3 OCTOs, 4 com-16 (3 functional) Relay satellite: 3 OCTOs, 3 RA-2 antenna level 3 tracking station The crafts are well within range of eachother. the relay sat has 100% connection to KSC. The probe just lost connection to the KSC minutes ago. It refuses to connect to the relay satellite. I'm getting really sick and tired of my crafts specifically interplanetary probes refusing to connect to relay satellites for absolutely no reason whatsoever, someone PLEASE TELL ME WHY IT IS NOT CONNECTING TO THE DAMN RELAY.
  21. In 2017, the competition for New Frontiers missions for launch in 2021 begins. New Frontiers missions have a cost cap of $1 Billion, and are used for medium class missions larger than discovery, but smaller than Flagship. Keep in mind that we know little about the design of these probes themselves, so this thread is more about where you would launch a mission. Missions may use an RTG or Ion Drive. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Frontiers_program There are 6 Mission proposals being considered currently: Titan/Enceledus Mission: NASA recently sent out a call for New Frontiers proposals to study Titan and/or Enceladus. Currently, little is known about what such a mission would look like. It could do multiple flybys of Titan and Enceladus (like Europa Clipper, though radiation is not an issue at Saturn), orbit either Titan or Enceladus, or land on Titan. Pros: - Both moons could harbour life, and are considered excellent scientific destinations. - Would be great for NASA publicity- almost as much as New Horizons. - A multi-flyby probe could help replace the lost science capability once Cassini ends its mission. - A RTG-powered probe would likely be able to launch on a smaller Falcon Heavy via a Jupiter flyby, but would have a more expensive probe, while a solar-powered probe (like Juno, but at Saturn) would require a Jupiter Flyby, and a SLS- but the probe would likely be cheaper. Both assume we use a direct trajectory to the outer planets, and not something like VEEGA, which would increase the transit time A LOT. Cons: - Probably better to reserve for a Flagship mission, as it has a higher of going over-budget and being cancelled than the other missions, due to the distance to Saturn (something none of us would want). - Would either need giant Solar panels or RTGs, due to the distance to Saturn. - An SLS, though it would not be included in the project costs (launch costs are not included in Discovery, Explorer, and New Frontiers missions), but would still cost an arm and a leg. So would an RTG. And a VEEGA-like trajectory would give us less science data due to the lower lifetime from having to linger around the inner solar system. - We know nothing about this mission proposal (so DON'T blindly choose this one!) Saturn Atmospheric Entry Probe: A Galileo-style entry probe carrying a carrier/relay spacecraft, which would carry the entry probe, and send data back to Earth. It would give scientists critical data about Saturn's atmosphere, including isotopic ratios, and noble gas abundances, which they apparently really want. The entry probe would survive to at least five bar, but would continue to operate until it is crushed by the atmosphere. Pros: - Highly important science data will be collected. Cons: - Mission will likely not generate any publicity. - Mission would last for very little time despite the approx. 7 year transit time to Saturn. (4 years transit for SLS) - Faces the same power problems as the Enceladus/Titan Mission, but with the added twist of needing a high-G entry probe- something that might be too much for the limited New Frontiers budget. Venus In-Situ Explorer: Similar to a comet probe-less VEGA, or a extended VERITAS also designed to land on Venus, Venus In-Situ Explorer would send a lander, and possibly an aero-bot or another kind of probe, to study Venus's entire atmosphere, especially of trace and noble gases. It would also study the crust and lower atmosphere in detail, something impossible from orbit. It would also obtain surface samples for study. Pros: - Would retrieve very high-importance science data. - Would have less of a chance of breaking the budget due to Venus being closer. - Venus In-Situ Explorer would make a great follow-up to VEGA. - We need to study Venus more. Cons: - It would likely be a relatively short mission-perhaps 2 days in length. - Power is likely limited to how much you can carry in your batteries. Trojan Tour and Rendezvous: The Trojan Tour and Rendezvous mission would likely be similar to an extended version of the proposed LUCY, and would study a completely new kind of object- a Jupiter Trojan. It would flyby two or more Trojan asteroids, then settle in orbit around one of them. Pros: - It would provide good scientific data on a completely unknown category of asteroids- Trojan Asteroids are thought to be very different than the ones closer into the solar system. - It might provide a SLS mission for the empty SLS launch manifest. - It would study multiple objects in the Trojans, getting more science data on a variety of objects there. Cons: - If Juno https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_(spacecraft) is any indication, such a asteroid mission would need an SLS Block I or an RTG to reach the Jupiter Trojans, both which cost an arm and a leg. - Transit time is surprisingly 10 years, no matter if you launch on SLS or Atlas V + VEEGA. SLS would provide 6x the payload capacity, though. Comet Surface Sample Return: A Comet Surface Sample Return Mission would acquire and return to Earth a small amount of cometary material from the nucleus (by landing) of a comet in a way that preserves organic compounds in the sample. It may also get a sample from multiple locations on the comet, though obviously this increases cost. It would get important data on the condition and constituents of the early Solar System, especially water and organics. It has also been suggested such a mission land near an active cometary jet. This mission would also study the comet's structure, composition, age, texture, structure, regolith, and evolution as it passes close to the Sun. Pros: - Good Science data can be obtained from this mission. - Depending on the comet, and intercept location, can have less or greater risk of breaking the budget. - Can be a good follow-up to the Rosetta/Philae mission. - Gets cometary material not able to be obtained by the Stardust mission. Cons: - It might be better to wait until the next New Frontiers mission, where a Lunar space station, or Orion can retrieve the capsule- this will increase the sample size enormously, as it can ride on a much larger capsule, and reduce the mass of the spacecraft for moar! boosters!. A Lunar Space station would be especially advantageous, as it could be incorporated into the crew's mission without having to send a dedicated, expensive mission to retrieve it. Lunar South Pole - Aitken Basin Sample Return: A Lunar South Pole Sample Return Mission would return samples of the early Moon's deep crust(the Aitken Basin is an enormous, deep impact crater) - something the region targeted is thought to contain. It would also obtain previously unobtainable surface samples not biased by Near-side Impact basin formation at the South Pole of the Moon. Most of the science objectives, however, such as trying to understand Lunar thermal evolution, would be accomplished via the returned samples. Pros: - Good science data can be obtained from this mission. - The first lunar dust samples from the poles (and partially far side) of the Moon can finally be obtained- giving scientists an idea of what a human mission to the Moon might get at the poles/far side. - Probably less likely to break the budget. - Would test a NASA heavy lander (like Morpheus) that would help in building a manned lunar lander- it would launch on an Atlas 431. Cons: - Possibly better to wait until a Lunar Space Station (which is likely, due to the new deep space HAB work going on in NASA)+Orion can pick up the samples for Earth Return, which would increase the payload/ regolith the mission would return to Earth. An Io Orbiter and Lunar Geophysical Network are proposed for a later New Frontiers mission, and are not in this New Frontiers mission contest. Information on these can be found here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Frontiers_program#Io_Volcano_Observer So, which New Frontiers Mission would you choose for launch in 2021?
  22. I've recently begun considering launching a flyby probe to the sun, making a quick pass just below 16 km to grab science, then transmitting it back to Kerbin once at a safe distance. However, I'm struggling with actually finding a way to get there. The intended payload: 1 x HECS core 1 x thermometer 1 x barometer 3 x Z-200 battery 2 x DTS-1 antenna (Antenna Helper says this gives 18% coverage at Moho for DSN level 2, so I'm hoping it's just enough to reach the sun) 2 x Solar panel 1x6 (retractable) 4 x Thermal Control System (small) 1 x Heat shield (1.25m) at the very front, to be pointed radial-in during final approach Strapping this payload to an FL-T800 tank with a Spark gives about 4100 m/s; however, the maneuver node says (and the community dV map concurs) I need nearly double that amount to reach the target periapse. I am not trying to achieve orbit, just a close flyby. How do I get it, without nukes or ions?
  23. I think that sometimes too much emphasis is placed on Manned Space flight and not enough on Unmanned. Indeed I would go so far s to say that unmanned space flight has been severely neglected. For example, I would like to have some changes made to the avionics hub that would make me want to use it more. I could make a more compact (shorter) and part-friendly craft if the CH-j3 had the functions of the small SAS built in. It would be perfect if it could also carry 5 units of mollyprop (Mono-propellant.) Currently once I have the tech to get a probe core with Targeting ability I rarely, if ever, use the CH-J3. If the developers gave some thought to probes and automated landers then perhaps we would get some RCS tanks that were about the size of the Place-Anywhere RCS Thruster. And some Place anywhere thrusters that were about 30% of that size with power reductions to match. I am aware that some of you feel that the CH-J3 is already overpowered and can make the need for pilots superfluous. However I do not see this as a fault of the CH-J3 more of the lack of abilities assigned to a pilot. For example if pilots were able to land a craft autonomously and the distance to target and success of the landing was governed by the pilots ability then the ace-pilot would be much in demand. (I know that there are those of you who feel that if a player can not land his own vehicle then he should be playing something else.) Rendezvous with target could be addressed in the same way. Pilots doing.. you know.. pilot-y (pilot-ish?) things. I digress.. This post is not about making pilots more like pilots (Still a good idea though) it's bout the functionality of the CH-j3. I have well over 5000 hours in game. Pinpoint landings and Rendezvous are all very routine for me. Many new players who love the idea of the game do struggle with things that many other veterans and I, find simple. So please try to keep in mind that all I am asking for is that the CH-j3 be made more useful. Regards. D.
  24. Now I got the understanding that with commnet, one can control an unmanned probe if the command module/probe core have "probe control point". However, the next sticking point is: Suppose Vessel A, B, C are not connected to KSC. Vessel A is a Lander Can Mk2 (aside from MEM and Mk1-3, it also have Probe Control point), with 1 Pilot and 1 Kerbalnaut. vessel B has an advanced probe core and a Cabin, containing a non pilot kerbalnaut Vessel C is an unmanned probe. Based on my understanding, A can control C, and B can also control C, right? If B cannot, would (B') where the kerbalnaut is a pilot allow (B') to control C? EDIT: Thank you. so in my case, Vessel B' will suffice.
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