Jso Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, JoeSheridan said: nice, now i have a reason to check the patch out, now that i can use it to check out the performance of the upcomming new parts. Some things we already know: Saturn IB Apollo is still a dog. Saturn INT-21 puts about 63 tons to LEO, and Saturn V can send 35 tons on TLI, both with comfortable margins. Relative to the rest of the mod those numbers are balanced. Apollo (including the petal adapter and LES) weighs 23 tons, so that mission is a bit OP. I'm not sure what if anything we may do about that, since making Apollo heavier will hurt the Saturn IB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlecat Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Zorg said: v1.8.0 "Мороз" New Content and features Hoot! Hoot! Potatoes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappystein Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 15 hours ago, CollectingSP said: Awesome! I am planning on building an ISS with Atlas, Delta, and falcon at the moment, using Orion service modules as tugs. Good to see that someone else is using expendable launchers to do it. *AHEM* Non-expendable... but yeah IRL they would be expendable... I have three Rocket trains (and maybe about to add Angara from EStreetRockets to the mix.) Titan (III/IV derived) Titan V (aka LDC and I am running that with various engine/booster combos) And Delta IIH with a HOSS upper-stage subbed in for the Delta P/K The Titan V has flown for me in this Build with RL20, LR129 (how can it be experimental if it is in production?!) LR87 Hydrolox (Both SL and Vacuum) J2S-SL + LR87 VAC all Hydrolox and STME + LR87 VAC Hydrolox... STME being the first CH4 engine I have actually flown more than once. Engines I have yet to fly in this buildup... from BDB 1.8.0? Just the M1 family. RS30 has figured on a few of my Single engine Centaur launches... It didn't quite fit on HOSS (And admittedly I was looking for CHEAP with that rocket) 2 hours ago, Jso said: Some things we already know: Saturn IB Apollo is still a dog. Saturn INT-21 puts about 63 tons to LEO, and Saturn V can send 35 tons on TLI, both with comfortable margins. Relative to the rest of the mod those numbers are balanced. Apollo (including the petal adapter and LES) weighs 23 tons, so that mission is a bit OP. I'm not sure what if anything we may do about that, since making Apollo heavier will hurt the Saturn IB. Jso brings up several good points here... I would add, I get around the Saturn IB being a Dog by instead flying the Saturn IB as it was envisioned... 4x E-1s in the first stage for the win (replace all 8 H-1s!) It isn't Historically accurate as flown, but it IS historically accurate as designed/conceptualized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmateurAstronaut1969 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Jso said: Saturn V can send 35 tons on TLI, both with comfortable margins. Relative to the rest of the mod those numbers are balanced. Apollo (including the petal adapter and LES) weighs 23 tons, so that mission is a bit OP. I'm not sure what if anything we may do about that, since making Apollo heavier will hurt the Saturn IB. Well the Saturn V did have a little extra margin in sending things to the moon, so I’d say possibly leave it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberro+ Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Sweet stuff as always. Can't wait for the Apollo revamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyJ576 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 I just downloaded the new update and so far everything is working great. Thanks for the hard work on it! Back in March someone asked a question about the Gemini spacecraft floating very high in the water, actually on the very tip of the heatshield. Has this ever been addressed with a fix or adjustment? I just ran a mission today and it is still floating like that. Also, is there a tweak to get it to float on its side, or do I just tip it over post-landing with SAS? I am currently running 1.10. Thank you! What could have been if Apollo had flown much earlier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sampa Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, DaveyJ576 said: I just downloaded the new update and so far everything is working great. Thanks for the hard work on it! Back in March someone asked a question about the Gemini spacecraft floating very high in the water, actually on the very tip of the heatshield. Has this ever been addressed with a fix or adjustment? I just ran a mission today and it is still floating like that. Also, is there a tweak to get it to float on its side, or do I just tip it over post-landing with SAS? I am currently running 1.10. Thank you! What could have been if Apollo had flown much earlier... and that, kids, is how I met your mother! XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceFace545 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, alberro+ said: your tufx config is kinda sexy nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSS_Snag Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, alberro+ said: Where is that lander can from? Planetside exploration tech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, Aussie Toad Stool said: Planetside exploration tech? It's the planetside one yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmateurAstronaut1969 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Just some Titan IV goodness for my Screenshot tax! Oh my, it appears a random Skylab has Appeared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 11 hours ago, DaveyJ576 said: I just downloaded the new update and so far everything is working great. Thanks for the hard work on it! Back in March someone asked a question about the Gemini spacecraft floating very high in the water, actually on the very tip of the heatshield. Has this ever been addressed with a fix or adjustment? I just ran a mission today and it is still floating like that. Also, is there a tweak to get it to float on its side, or do I just tip it over post-landing with SAS? I am currently running 1.10. Thank you! What could have been if Apollo had flown much earlier... Doesnt it tip over if you keep SAS off? I thought it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1904 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) I don't understand the apollo update fully. We do have the majority of new parts in the current release or not? Sorry my memory is awful. I can't remember what parts looked like years back Edited May 31, 2021 by dave1904 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, dave1904 said: I don't understand the apollo update fully. We do have the majority of new parts in the current release or not? Sorry my memory is awful. I can't remember what parts looked like years back I'm in the process of remaking all the Apollo parts, but none of the new ones are in game yet. Still a lot of work to do before getting there. Speaking of which... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok6 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Is the X-20 DynaSoar included in this mod or is it a seperate mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vostok6 said: Is the X-20 DynaSoar included in this mod or is it a seperate mod? Its a separate mod. Though we highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1904 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: I'm in the process of remaking all the Apollo parts, but none of the new ones are in game yet. Still a lot of work to do before getting there. Speaking of which... Oh nice but also a bit sad. The old parts must have been loads of work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok6 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Zorg said: Its a separate mod. Though we highly recommend it. Thank you! And great job with this mod, keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Another update on Skylab. Mostly finished Airlock Module. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochies Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) Why is this release "Мороз"? Why was the previous one "Огромный"? Какого черта?! (I apologize if the answer was published - throw a link at me.) Edited May 31, 2021 by Cochies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 53 minutes ago, Cochies said: Why is this release "Мороз"? Why was the previous one "Огромный"? Какого черта?! (I apologize if the answer was published - throw a link at me.) The in game "lore" is that BDB is a Soviet style design bureau making US rockets as a counterpart to Tantares which is a US style private company making Soviet rockets. Its just a bit of odd fun. Those names specifically because the previous update was the largest ever for BDB in terms of number of parts and this new one because it has cryogenic engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochies Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Zorg said: The in game "lore" is that BDB is a Soviet style design bureau making US rockets as a counterpart to Tantares which is a US style private company making Soviet rockets. Its just a bit of odd fun. Those names specifically because the previous update was the largest ever for BDB in terms of number of parts and this new one because it has cryogenic engines. (Long laughter and rolling on the floor) It's an absolutely wonderful story))))) I hope Beale knows what he really does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDSlice Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cochies said: (Long laughter and rolling on the floor) It's an absolutely wonderful story))))) I hope Beale knows what he really does? Beale is in on the joke as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Alright, I've just completed recreating the Early Lunar Access mission from 1993 - the thing took more than two days between irl things and the rendezvouz/dockings which I hate that the mission required, so enjoy! For those unaware, ELA was the "cheaper-faster-better" approach applied to go back to the moon, using the Shuttle and the Titan IV (or the Ariane-5 to include the ESA) to assembly a lunar lander and the Centaur, this way: Spoiler Because of how long and complicated this mission was I've made almost 250 screenshot of it to get a few decent ones to post here, which I've decided to split into groups to avoid cluttering the thread. Launch of the shuttle, deploying the lander and the capsule: Quote Liftoff from Cape Canaveral, 1 March 2002 Booster separation Jettison of the external tank Payload bay opening, revealing the lander Jeb inspecting the payload Release of the lander body Release of the crewed pod First orbital assembly complete! Shuttle beginning the reentry manuevres Reentry and landing Launch of the Centaur upper stage on a Titan IV: Quote Liftoff on 2 march 2002 Booster separation First stage separation Centaur release, if you look closely that small dot in the middle of the pic is the lander Assembly of the transit vehicle and TLI: Quote Rendezvouz of the two spacecrafts Final approach Docking! This was probably the most rewarding part of the mission, I spent something like two hours to get this right have another screenshot Trans Lunar InjectionCentaur separation Lunar landing: Quote Approaching the moonLowering the landing gear Final burnLanding! Departure and return to Earth Quote DepartureReturn into Earth SOICapsule separation Docking port separationSplashdown! I hope you liked it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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