[KSP 1.6.1] "Streamline" Engines, Fueltanks and RCS

[Aerospacer]

@NESD

Excellent!

You are Great!

P.S. Especially cool using for intake (may be one day you try to make similar part with single built-in intake at the bottom... please... ).

Edited October 11, 2017 by Aerospacer

[Tyko]

Nice work! do you have a list of the various engine's specs? Thrust, ISP, weight...are they in line with stock engines?

[Aerospacer]

Science SSTO to-the-Minmus-and-Back  MSS-2A with "Streamline" parts:

Made for career, tech level=science160, just 1 Panther and full science equipment.

Launch mass = 20.96 t, dV=1763 m/s (LKO)

Other screens:

Spoiler

405 m/s remains on Minmus surface.

 

Edited October 14, 2017 by Aerospacer

[NESD]

@Tyko  sorry for delay, I be far from my home computer

 

Engines specs:

Solo       - 60kN        850kg    +  90-110 fuel      Gimbal 7 deg    (Advanced rocketry)

Duet       - 120kN      800kg    +  45-55 fuel        (General rocketry)

Trio        -  180kN     1050kg  + 22.5-27.5 fuel     (Advanced rocketry)

Quartet  -  240kN    1300kg     (Heavy rocketry)

Sextet    -  360kN    1800kg     (Heavier rocketry)

     ISP of all this engines 270-320      ( Reliant   -  240kN   1250kg    ISP 265-310  )

Sphere   - 30kN        200kg     ISP  260-305      (Advanced rocketry)    Gimbal  40 degrees

S-12  -  12kN   ISP 250-315

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RCS tailcone  ISP 245-275   8kN per nozzle

Ring and linear   ISP 240-280  4kN

All RCS also required electricity in addition to LF+Ox propellant

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All parts slightly heavier and cost bigger than stock ones,

but have much better aerodynamics and slightly better ISP and crush tolerance.

Also all of them required  higher science level to open

 

@Aerospacer   Another nice SSTO But what launch profile you a using?

I try copy it, but only can reach orbit with my common launch style

( to 250 - 300m/s on sea level then straight climb with plasma at 8000 -10000 m)

 

 

[Aerospacer]

@NESD, Optimal profiles for SSTO need a some personal experience. Shortly: accelerate in dry (to RW edge), wet mode, accel to 300+ m/s with min vert velocity (lower 1000-1500 m), some decreace attack angle after 330-340 m/s, ~500 m/s on 5000 m, ~750 m/s on 10km, after 11-12 km firing of teriers, after 14 km firing of sparks. Switch to orbital velocity (36+ km) with ~1600 m/s surface speed, decreace pitch angle to 10-12 degr, and slowly to 0 after 2100 m/s.

Luck in flight.

P.S. BTW, mass of DTE Streamline 1-60-S "Solo" LFE part need to decreace to ~0.55 (0.6) t, Sextet Imho better to move to "Heavy rocketry". Rest of engines have a good match with stock level.

And, I still wait of this...

On 11.10.2017 at 11:46 PM, NESD said:

Again - Thanks for your excellent mod.

Edited October 23, 2017 by Aerospacer

[NESD]

@Aerospacer  Weight of engines is a 300kg of tailcone + 250 per each nozzle (and you calculate it correct), but it have gimbal with additional 300kg weight

(difference between stock Swivel and Reliant 250kg but Swivel have only 3deg gimbal and lesser thrust)

On 24.10.2017 at 12:11 AM, Aerospacer said:

And, I still wait of this...

I'm waiting too . . .         but I still not update my Open Cockpit for 1.3.1 and work with some new parts

[GenjoKoan]

Shiny!  Your parts are works of art.  Eye candy!  Truly.  I like them lots and use them often.  Thank you for this good work.

[NESD]

@GenjoKoan  Always welcome

 

And yes, I'm still here and not sleeping (sometimes )

work continued, and I have many parts almost ready to release . . . to many . . .

maybe I split this mod into two parts:  engines, RCS and fuel to Propulsion (as exist)

and other things to Construction ( or Structures, or something else, don't chose final name)

 

So, what I have at this day . . .

Adapters

This is a final set, upper row (symmetrical) will be available immediately,

other parts (non symmetrical) also included in download, but you can unpack

it manually, and only parts that you actually needed

for most  stupid  kerbal style constructions

 

Set of self charging batteries with deployable solar panels

And streamlined crew tubes with decoupler, docking port, end cap and

smooth fairings to main diameters.

You even can fly on it

Clean an sleek, no more "dock on cargo bay" cheats

 

 

[GenjoKoan]

Wow seems inadequate.  Shiny!

PS: I really like the tandem open cockpit.  However, would prefer two cockpits, no guns as an option.  I can imagine contracts for taking tourists on open cockpit joy rides. 

[NESD]

@GenjoKoan  First cockpit on picture is already existing part, in work only rear gunner post.

For two seater just use two common cockpits (no dual cockpit in single part in my plan now)

[Aerospacer]

JESSY - lighter version of low-tech streamline-based SSTO

Initial mass 8.7 t, one-kerbal cockpit, use 3 Juno and 1 Duet engines. DeltaV on low orbit ~200 m/s.

[TheCardinal]

A superb addition to the game!

[funkcanna]

Hi, is this being maintained for 1.4?

[NESD]

@funkcanna  All parts compatible with KSP 142 and MH DLC, you can download and install it manually if they not shown in CKAN

 

development of this mod not stopped and I have some new parts

New 2.5m engines with 250-1500kn thrust and 2 types of central mount, flat and internal tube

2 central boosters (LF and MP) that can be used as a standalone 1.25 engines with or without covers

all engines suitable for landing legs attach. And new set of fuel tanks of course

 

So . . .  now I'm stuck, because it's a lot of parts (even for me) and I don't know how it can be better:

 

1 - Make it as a simle parts, compatible with 1.3.X and hide some parts so you can add it manually

        ( better compatibility with all game versions and future updates)

 

2 - Use limited 1.4.2 features and group some parts with similar paremeters ( 3 attach nodes adapters in one part, as example )

     ( no 1.3.X support and only slightly reduced part list, but full future game update support )

 

3 - Rework this mod for B9 switcher. Smallest part list, tanks fuel change and other features, but all 3rd party software problems with updates and compatibility

 

Please answer I need your opinion

[theJesuit]

My two cents and use the 1.4.2 features to group similiar models. B9 part switcher allows increase in mass, which stock switcher lacks but I do like the idea of maintaining onwards compatibility if B9 takes a long time to update in the future.

[Drew Kerman]

#2 seems best from a dev standpoint. I don’t really have any other opinion

[Ballistic Idiot]

I'm a big fan of simplicity, a collection of parts with MFT profiles makes me happier than anything else.

[Eskandare]

Looking forward to seeing more of your work, @NESD

[Beetlecat]

Totally forgot about these parts. Looking forward to it -- now that I have enough ram to use part packs in earnest.

 

Also voting "B."

Edited May 2, 2018 by Beetlecat

[Barar]

I like option 2. 

 

 

[Aceoaces]

On 4/22/2018 at 2:08 AM, NESD said:

 

I'm so excited for these new parts!  I'm building designs in my mind already.

[NESD]

Thanks all for answer, now start repack this for ksp 1.4 features

but many parts can't be packed in single instance with stock switcher

[JH4C]

Looking forward to the revised updated and modernised version! Don't worry about trying to optimise as many parts as possible into a single element, I think what you're showing there is the most sensible way of doing it - combining all the parts with the same number of nodes makes more sense and is easier to understand and find than if you had (for example) all parts sharing a common base, which could include anything from 1 to 7 attachment nodes in multiple various configurations. I know I'd just get frustrated at having to scroll through lots of irrelevant variations to reach the specific one I'm after.

[NESD]

Working, working working and almost ready. Now complete (possibly) list of new parts look like this

Big engines have 4 variants (cap or tube with or without clamps), small - 2 ,  adapters have 3-4 , tube attach fairing - 4, tanks also 4;

Clean, with clamps, label on top in vertical position (for rockets) and two labels on side horizontally (for aircrafts or airfield refuelers)

textures on end caps and labels still not finished 

 

All engines set, with central boosters can give thrust from 250 to 1750 kn with isp 260-330 (between Swivel and Skiff)

 

Fuel tanks have capacity from 800 to 6400 LF and 978 - 7822 OX, still don't know about monopropellant tanks, add only

one short, or full range 800-6400, because @Nertea have good tanks in NF pack

 

One of self charging batteries with vertical solar panel also available as drone core

with all abilities of RC 001S, but electric charge reduced to 500

 

Now Proton style rockets looks little more realistic

[theonegalen]

It all looks amazing - one thing I'm very interested is what looks like a wing piece with windows on it?