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So I've gotten myself some light (no) holiday reading. Alexander Svechin is an Interbellum military theorist and WWI military practitioner presently in the vogue, and his own biographic work about his time with the 6th Finland Rifles puts Hašek to shame.

The PDF I'm reading from is really copy-paste unfriendly, so I'll do the cliffnotes version. One truly ridiculous moment is him praising his machine gun (i.e. tachanka) company ensign for keeping him, the regiment's commander, forever in the dark about the number of machine guns on hand. This appeared to help with increasing their number from 4 (all captured ones) to 32.

The real hoot, though, was Svechin's description of the same division's 7th Regiment. Its first commander was the Chief Gastronomist of the General Staff (was that even an official posting!?) who died to an Austrian shell while having dinner, and the head of the regiment's officers' assembly was the owner of the prestigious Aquarium restaurant in St Petersburg. Accordingly, 7th Regiment, with its, quote, "culinary connections", would always be posted in the rear and conveniently close to Vladimir von Notbeck's divisional HQ, and only committed to fighting in the most desperate of times, at which point it would, quote, "demonstrate considerable skill at marching in place".

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1 hour ago, magnemoe said:

Also why the small low driver compartment?  As you say cool but impractical. Is the engine in the rotating part? 

I think the engine is that luggage rack looking thingy over the wheels. Gas engines are notoriously smaller than piston ones, and that air intakes must be there for a reason...

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16 minutes ago, Lisias said:

I think the engine is that luggage rack looking thingy over the wheels. Gas engines are notoriously smaller than piston ones, and that air intakes must be there for a reason...

Think that is the connecting to trailer part who would rotate too, the box on top has air intakes, that is why I was thinking engine, but that would rotate it with the trailer who is a problem. 
So I guess below between the wheels as you say engine is small. 

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I don't know what it is. Looks like a plane, and apparently it flies. :)

 

 

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Forum is weird today...
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13 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

The "stretch limousines"

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When you are just stacking same parts together, and adding as many wheels as you need.

Best use with FreeIVA.

Are the helicopter for then your not on highways? That think would make an semi truck easy to drive. 
Has seen it before else I would guessed AI art :) 
Still not sure if an real car as in you can drive it on roads. And if you can drive it on road its oversize so it need an escort. 

 

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Oukey, this is really starting to get out of handl! :)

These two, in special, looks incredibly like something made on the SPH with clipped lifting surfaces!

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I thought the drop off at the end of the runway in KSP2 was because this must be a real world mechanic.

Most of my larger planes took advantage of that precarious space between the runway and water to gain flight. .. 

I'm pretty sure I remember Jeb saying somewhere it wouldn't fly without it.

On 8/24/2018 at 5:55 AM, Lisias said:

I once mentioned how my KSP designs are similar to some soviet ones.

And today I came to this: :D (Forum safe this time! :)

 

I can't remember a cargo plane of mine that didn't take off after the runway ending… :P 

Do you know of any more Real Life Kerbalism? Please share!

Regarding first post. I was bored and finally started at the front

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1 hour ago, Fizzlebop Smith said:

I thought the drop off at the end of the runway in KSP2 was because this must be a real world mechanic.

Most of my larger planes took advantage of that precarious space between the runway and water to gain flight. .. 

I'm pretty sure I remember Jeb saying somewhere it wouldn't fly without it.

Regarding first post. I was bored and finally started at the front

Many runways have an drop of at the end, if its end in the sea its always the case and you don't want an cliff there anyway. KSP 1 also has this, in KSP 2 I believe the runway is so long planetary diameter is an important factor. 

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2 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

Not such long, but two of them were actively running in our city for several years.

Two of these long limousines? How did it handle turns in city roads?  Even if you could rotate around the center wheels the rear would come out. 
If its some hidden articulation behind the center wheels yes that would work. 

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5 hours ago, magnemoe said:

Two of these long limousines?

Shorter.

Like this one, and a similar based on jeep.

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These ones weren't having problems, but that monster probably would need multi-lane streets only.

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"I did not know marches can have sick drops..."

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Max Popenker has shared his puzzlement over Soviet photos from 1940 that claim to depict a paratrooper corps' marching band set to drop in full kit

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5 hours ago, DDE said:

"I did not know marches can have sick drops..."

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Max Popenker has shared his puzzlement over Soviet photos from 1940 that claim to depict a paratrooper corps' marching band set to drop in full kit

Someone who don't realize how much downtime soldiers have even in an war and how much weird stuff they do. 
The band was stuck on the airbase for days and got bored. 

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14 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

Shorter.

Like this one, and a similar based on jeep.

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These ones weren't having problems, but that monster probably would need multi-lane streets only.

This is buss sized and busses works in traffic. 
And yes multi lane streets only for it so not practical even if you can drive it.

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When your craft's parts just blow up out of the blue at launch...

F-117 Nighthawk or Stealth Fighter

 

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When, damned autocomplete, WHEN - not what. Crap.
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On 6/22/2024 at 5:00 AM, DDE said:

Max Popenker has shared his puzzlement over Soviet photos from 1940 that claim to depict a paratrooper corps' marching band set to drop in full kit

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a real thing they trained to do. I recall seeing a member of the Matrix Games forum with a quote from some US Army document consisting of interviews of German officers on what to expect when fighting the Soviets.

This is a paraphrase, but some German officer basically said some Soviet unit had a hard time trying to cross a river during the day due to the weather. They tried again at night, and the German scouts observing it reported hearing marching music playing as the enemy attempted to ford the obstacle.

It's not much, but I myself can attest to the power of a good march. During 2018 when I was going through a mental crisis, the marching renditions of "We need a victory" and "Upon a nameless hill" immensely helped me slog through the day. I still hum marches when the going gets tough fighting Leopard 1s in the T-62 in War Thunder lol.

Only the Soviet stuff though. I never found American, British, or Japanese marches particularly inspiring on a human level, although they are still decent tunes.

EDIT- Oh, and "Sluzhit' rossii", that's a good one too.

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26 minutes ago, SunlitZelkova said:

This is a paraphrase, but some German officer basically said some Soviet unit had a hard time trying to cross a river during the day due to the weather. They tried again at night, and the German scouts observing it reported hearing marching music playing as the enemy attempted to ford the obstacle.

When you are in the POW camp, you can tell any tale for double meat in the soup.
 

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Music, indeed.


Btw, about the von Brown's "A9/A10/A11/A12", never existed documentally before his capture.

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12 hours ago, SunlitZelkova said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a real thing they trained to do. I recall seeing a member of the Matrix Games forum with a quote from some US Army document consisting of interviews of German officers on what to expect when fighting the Soviets.

This is a paraphrase, but some German officer basically said some Soviet unit had a hard time trying to cross a river during the day due to the weather. They tried again at night, and the German scouts observing it reported hearing marching music playing as the enemy attempted to ford the obstacle.

It's not much, but I myself can attest to the power of a good march. During 2018 when I was going through a mental crisis, the marching renditions of "We need a victory" and "Upon a nameless hill" immensely helped me slog through the day. I still hum marches when the going gets tough fighting Leopard 1s in the T-62 in War Thunder lol.

I'm continuing to read Svechin - see other thread - and I've promptly stumbled upon a good example from WWI. His 6th Finland Regiment was acting as a rear guard in Northern Poland facing a good chunk of the German army with barely any support, already pretty down on men and having had a good quarter detached to a different sectir. He decided his situation was hairy enough and beat a retreat after his own rear guard (5th Company) traded fire with a German cavalry screen. The situation got pretty messy - while Svechin rode out to corral 5th Company, his deputy decided that their main withdrawal route was already taken by German outriders, and instead almost led the regiment into a full German cavalry division; sorting out this mess cost valuable time, and so the regiment rushed down a semi-random forest road, forced-march at about 8 km/h, 5th Company at the rear constantly firing at the scattered Germans hot on their heels and yelling for everyone to go even faster.

Svechin realized two things were about to happen. One, his soldiers were about to start discarding their equipment and weapons and the worst conscripts might just keel over from the exertion. Two, soon afterwards, the entire regiment would likely all surrender to the first lone German they see. So he screamed at the oldest feldfebehl to start a cadence, and then screamed at 5th Company that he's going to order a 10-minute rest if they so much as try rush everyone again.

So the regiment slowed down to about 3 km/h, but the shooting mostly stopped - partly because 5th Company stopped seeing the ghosts of riders behind every tree, and partly because the sparse Germans immediately lost all interest in a force they couldn't take through sheer panache.

The flipside of this was that when 5th Regiment saw 6th Regiment parade towards theor positions, they proved extremely difficult to convince that the Germans were hot on their heels.

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15 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

When you are in the POW camp, you can tell any tale for double meat in the soup.

You see, sometimes these stunts stick.

On WW2, the Brazilian Expeditionary Force arrived on Italy in the winter. They entered the Theater of War, and by night, to the horror of the American Brass, they lighted campfires for the night on an open field.

"They are dead", the "Gringos" said to each other seeing that stupidity from their observation points. "They are so dead..."

Nope. The Germans were convinced that that was a trap, and didn't bit the "bait".

By the morning, the Brazilians - well fed and well rested on warmed sleeping bags - charged and pushed away tired, sleepy, hungry and freezing to death "Tedescos".

Fortune favors the bold - and the stupid. :P

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Entertaining grammars made slightely less entertaining...
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