Alexoff Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 59 minutes ago, Snafu225 said: If I did everything right it should start at the KSP2 part. I do wonder when the embargo drops, Im hoping next monday, I could see it being next Thursday to cause algorithms to blow up the day before release though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephensan Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, Strawberry said: I do wonder when the embargo drops, Im hoping next monday, I could see it being next Thursday to cause algorithms to blow up the day before release though. embargos drop normally the day of release, if not on the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexoff Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 It seems that the developers also signed this embargo, they believe that they should not tell us anything about the current situation. Aren't bloggers forbidden to talk bad about the game? Well, you know - the first day patch will fix everything, it was not for nothing that they were taken to the space center and fed cookies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephensan Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, Alexoff said: It seems that the developers also signed this embargo, they believe that they should not tell us anything about the current situation. Aren't bloggers forbidden to talk bad about the game? Well, you know - the first day patch will fix everything, it was not for nothing that they were taken to the space center and fed cookies? no, bloggers can talk bad and good when the game releases, unless they are in a contract to make videos for money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Stephensan said: embargos drop normally the day of release, if not on the minute. Ghostii has said that content creators will be able to share content and reviews before release, we just dont know when Edited February 19, 2023 by Strawberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephensan Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, Strawberry said: Ghostii has said that content creators will be able to share content and reviews before release, we just dont know when can you link that please, wasn't aware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, Stephensan said: can you link that please, wasn't aware https://discord.com/channels/1039959585949237268/1039965578754007060/1073751404608507904 This one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwightLee Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Im glad someone said it, I have been tempted to from the beginning. Optimization is likely not complete, and the min specs will drop over time. This is often the case with early access. 10 hours ago, Kerbart said: NDA's are very effective. The reason we constantly have to look for excuses is because everyone is getting their underwear in a bunch over software they haven't seen in action. Those that are seen as "defenders" (I'm sure you'll see me as one of them) will be equally disappointed if the game disappoints. But to get an aneurysm over jumping to conclusions when there's nothing to be enraged over (yet?), is just plain silly. Yes there have been screenshots. 'What are you working on Joe?' 'Landing gear animations' 'Cool, can I get a shot?' 'Sure, here's a 5s screengrab' and before you know it, Joe's animation (and Joe is not) on the landscape team) gets ripped apart because it's not showing clouds or trees. I'm just amazed on how many people are obsessed with burning the game down before they have seen it. Don't be surprised when you don't get to see anything about the new features until they're released; this is why. The internet is made from torches and pitchforks, and millions of people jumping up and down on a greasy spot that used to be a horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
determinationmaster Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Bej Kerman said: Definitely. thank god. i expected this, but it's just nice to hear it from a dev lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxappeal89129 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, determinationmaster said: thank god. i expected this, but it's just nice to hear it from a dev lol Or a sales pitch... :-) 1 hour ago, Alexoff said: ROFLMAO this has got to be one of the best memes in history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 This sub has gotten weird in the last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSTO Crasher Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Well, here’s a bright side, those of use with potato PC’s and laptops will get more features at the immediate drop, like colonies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxappeal89129 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bej Kerman said: Ya mean they didn't optimise their code that was not yet suitable for optimisation???? Your idea of development is nothing short of confusing, in fact probably wrong. Sounds like someone being condescending about a problem they've never faced. Nope, just trying to point out processes in project management that I would think would be self evident in this case, which was the dev team being tone def regarding COVID-19 supply chain issues with hardware and how that correlates to their proclamation of delays on the software development side; in summary, being able to understand and accommodate your target audience. Sounds like you're a software guy? So you took my comments personally? Didn't mean it that way my friend... didn't even know you were/are a software guy. Edited February 19, 2023 by saxappeal89129 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missingno200 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) I saw someone in here earlier back when I was setting up my laptop who said that the 2060 was actually midranged and that people who had the 1600 series cards should just upgrade. To that, I have to say, no, the hardware does not make it midranged. It's the people who still use it that do. The Geforce 730 isn't even considered a factor, not because it's so outdated, but because no one uses the damn thing. If there were a billion people using the G730, you'd still see games targeting it, at least as a minimum requirement. Sure, it'd be considered low-end, but it would be a consideration none the less. Accordingly, the mid-range would also shift based on the fact that the G730 is now considered the common low end. Edited February 19, 2023 by Missingno200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, saxappeal89129 said: Nope, just trying to point out processes in project management that I would think would be self evident in this case, which was the dev team being tone def regarding COVID-19 supply chain issues with hardware and how that correlates to their proclamation of delays on the software development side; in summary, being able to understand and accommodate your target audience. Sounds like you're a software guy? So you took my comments personally? Didn't mean it that way my friend... didn't even know you were/are a software guy. I'm not a software guy. I'm not completely blind either, I have seen stuff being worked on before, and I do have an idea of what's going on BTS that isn't blind speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxappeal89129 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Missingno200 said: I saw someone in here earlier back when I was setting up my laptop who said that the 2060 was actually midranged and that people who had the 1600 series cards should just upgrade. To that, I have to say, no, the hardware does not make it midranged. It's the people who still use it that do. The Geforce 730 isn't even considered a factor, not because it's so outdated, but because no one uses the damn thing. If there were a billion people using the G730, you'd still see games targeting it, at least as a minimum requirement. A "market" based argument... couldn't agree with you more. 10 minutes ago, Bej Kerman said: I'm not a software guy. I'm not completely blind either, I have seen stuff being worked on before, and I do have an idea of what's going on BTS that isn't blind speculation So you are or aren't a software guy? Didn't you previously proclaim your vast knowledge in the development area? I'm confused... I'm actually partially blind, absolutely hate it, astigmatism sucks, causes halos around lights; don't be like me. :-) Regardless, I just think they're requirements were borderline outlandish, (I reread your post, so you're working behind the scenes with them on this?) Edited February 19, 2023 by saxappeal89129 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Alexoff said: Apparently, this agreement implies a prison sentence for any phrase about KSP2. I know bloggers who received last of us 2 with the same agreement and, although they did not reveal anything about the game, told the viewers that they would not like the plot of the game. Of course, no more games were sent to them for reviews, but no one filed a lawsuit either. It does not imply a prison sentence. It implies that you might get sued by the company you signed the NDA with, but most of the time companies send a cease and desist, then cut all ties with the person who broke the NDA. 4 hours ago, i dont know how to forum said: 1070ti, not 1070 Hmmm. If they are advertizing the 1070TI as an alternative min spec card, this has me wondering if KSP 2 will actually have Ray Tracing at start. The only reason to advertise a non-RT card would be for the fact that the RT card is needed for RT. An ray traced KSP 2 would probably look stunning. Edited February 19, 2023 by GoldForest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i dont know how to forum Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, GoldForest said: Hmmm. If they are advertizing the 1070TI as an alternative min spec card, this has me wondering if KSP 2 will actually have Ray Tracing at start. The only reason to advertise a non-RT card would be for the fact that the RT card is needed for RT. I think they just added it for clarification because people were wondering if RTX was required, there were a lot of people unsure if the 10 series would be supported at all or which 10 series cards would be supported. I don't think it implies anything about raytracing at all, if there was raytracing support we would have heard about it long before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, saxappeal89129 said: So you are or aren't a software guy? I'm not a software guy. I'm familiar with software. I've closely followed SpaceEngine's development, I do occasional research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARL_Mk1 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, GoldForest said: It does not imply a prison sentence. It implies that you might get sued by the company you signed the NDA with, but most of the time companies send a cease and desist, then cut all ties with the person who broke the NDA. Hmmm. If they are advertizing the 1070TI as an alternative min spec card, this has me wondering if KSP 2 will actually have Ray Tracing at start. The only reason to advertise a non-RT card would be for the fact that the RT card is needed for RT. An ray traced KSP 2 would probably look stunning. Ray Tracing would be the most useless feature they could add to a game like KSP. Being a inherently performance heavy game, who on Earth would like to lose 40 extra FPS in exchange of... ray traced reflections of... the darkness of space? I'll say it again (since it makes me feel good): I WANT them to implement FSR 2.0 on KSP2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, i dont know how to forum said: I think they just added it for clarification because people were wondering if RTX was required, there were a lot of people unsure if the 10 series would be supported at all or which 10 series cards would be supported. I don't think it implies anything about raytracing at all, if there was raytracing support we would have heard about it long before now. Not necessarily. They might want to keep the RT feature a secret for launch. Just now, MARL_Mk1 said: Ray Tracing would be the most useless feature they could add to a game like KSP. Being a inherently performance heavy game, who on Earth would like to lose 40 extra FPS in exchange of... ray traced reflections of... the darkness of space? I'll say it again (since it makes me feel good): I WANT them to implement FSR 2.0 on KSP2. RT would not be the most useless feature for those that care about graphics. Darkness of space? Did you forget we have TONS of new planets as well as all the old ones? Scattering powered by Ray Tracing would look stunning imo. And with DLSS, Ray tracing isn't that taxing as it once was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, MARL_Mk1 said: Ray Tracing would be the most useless feature they could add to a game like KSP. Being a inherently performance heavy game, who on Earth would like to lose 40 extra FPS in exchange of... ray traced reflections of... the darkness of space? Exactly my thoughts. Yeah, sure, it sometimes makes things look slightly better. But is it anything that can't be approximated by the shaders the devs already created? A ray traced reflection of a fuel tank on a visor isn't worth the demand. We've seen full ray-tracing demonstrated with Portal RTX, but that's a much lower step than having entire planets, dealing with terrain and vessels made of maybe thousands of parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 I can't believe it. In less than 7 hours, we will be 5 days away from the release of KSP 2. It has been a long time coming. Yes, there's been some bumps in the rails. Yes, some of those bumps could be considered controversial, and some others trivial problems that people have overblown because they're scared or worried. But none of that matters. KSP 2 is release, finally! After a 3 year delay and 5 to 7 (possibly 8) years of development, KSP 2 is here!.... well, here in early access, but still, it's here. I can't wait to get my hands on KSP 2 EA and see all the changes and improvements the team at Intercept has made. From the bottom of my heart, thank you @Intercept Games. Thank you all the devs, thank you @Nate Simpson and everyone else for keeping this game alive through the difficult times. Please, continue to improve this game. Make it the best space sim game it can be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xelo Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Ksp 2 is the only game that can overcome my procrastination at upgrading my computer from a laptop with a damaged keyboard to a proper workstation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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