GoldForest Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Grimmas said: @GoldForest you could try to launch according to the contracts in the History of Spaceflight contract pack, there are lots of probe missions in there specifically for BDB (and I think ProbesPlus also, not sure) Playing Sandbox and not science/career mode tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stolas Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 JNSQ 1.11.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, Stolas said: JNSQ 1.11.2 I think that happens when you have multiple module manager versions installed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I love the modern Apollo paintscheme! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakuvendell Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 1:25 PM, Zorg said: Its too bright Slamek? Is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianDogmeat Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: I love the modern Apollo paintscheme! What in the- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacktical Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 13 hours ago, SpaceFace545 said: Could we also get a version of the Delta IV fairing without the payload adapter, the bare ring is nice for kit bashing. Yeah this would be very useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: I love the modern Apollo paintscheme! Finally, an Apollo we can shove on top of a Kistler K-1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPFlyer Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 13 hours ago, GoldForest said: Playing Sandbox and not science/career mode tho. You're missing out on a lot of fun blowing up/crashing/failing a bunch of early launches then. I'm working through my 4th attempt at it (Major BDB updates result in restarts) and I'm doing the same thing - only deorbiting stuff on the date they actually deorbit. As such, I've got (as of early 1966) ~90 satellites in orbit of Kerbin. I kinda wish there was an addon that would let me "auto terminate" a mission on a given date/time, but that's kinda esoteric, so I just put the deorbit date in the mission name and check the Tracking Station every month and make a note of when missions deorbited to make sure I don't pass up that date without removing the flight. One bit of warning though - You *will* get significant performance hits. Even with a really good computer, the way KSP runs even unloaded flights, you'll be running "yellow" once you get deep into the timeline like I am. Performance overall is still more than acceptable, but you'll definitely notice performance hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Drag issue on the jettison SLA has been fixed with a slightly modified custom cube and fixes to the B9 switcher that was preventing it from taking. Here a base engine config Saturn IB launching to equitorial 110x110 in KSRRS 2.5x with about 200m/s spare in the S4B With the upgraded 1973 engines can make 180x180 at 50 degrees launching from Kennedy in KSRSS (Skylab orbit scaled to KSRSS). 0.4 deg/s pitch rate and 100m/s pitch start is essential though. Edited May 10, 2022 by Zorg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyJ576 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Zorg said: Drag issue on the jettison SLA has been fixed with a slightly modified custom cube and fixes to the B9 switcher that was preventing it from taking. Here a base engine config Saturn IB launching to equitorial 110x110 in KSRRS 2.5x with about 200m/s spare in the S4B With the upgraded 1973 engines can make 180x180 at 50 degrees launching from Kennedy in KSRSS (Skylab orbit scaled to KSRSS). 4 deg/s pitch rate and 100m/s pitch start is essential though. @Zorg, thank you for sticking with this extremely vexing problem. I am not a coder, but having taken a look at a few .cfg files I have an appreciation for what a pain in the neck this must have been. You and the entire dev team have my thanks for enabling my enjoyment of this sim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam-Kerman Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Zorg said: With the upgraded 1973 engines can make 180x180 at 50 degrees launching from Kennedy in KSRSS (Skylab orbit scaled to KSRSS). So how calculate orbits scaled to 2.5x KSRSS from real world? curious Edited May 8, 2022 by Adam-Kerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Adam-Kerman said: So how calculate orbits scales to 2.5x KSRSS from real world? curious Despite 2.5x KSRSS and JNSQ being roughly 1/4 the size of our solar system, the atmosphere height is roughly the same (90 and 85km respectively vs 100km Karman line on our Earth). The orbital altitudes on the other hand are scaled directly to system scale, GEO in these KSP systems is roughly 1/4 of the IRL GEO. So basically this formula will give you a decent approximation to scale IRL orbits to KSP (RealOrbit_km - 90km) * 0.25 + 90km = KSP equivalent orbit in terms of relative performance. Edited May 8, 2022 by Zorg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 16 hours ago, SpaceFace545 said: Could we also get a version of the Delta IV fairing without the payload adapter, the bare ring is nice for kit bashing. Just added this. Idk why I didn't together with the other variants, no changes to the model were needed, only the config . The top attach node is now moved to the same position as the bottom (but facing up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam-Kerman Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Zorg said: Despite 2.5x KSRSS and JNSQ being roughly 1/4 the size of our solar system, the atmosphere height is roughly the same (90 and 85km respectively vs 100km Karman line on our Earth). The orbital altitudes on the other hand are scaled directly to system scale, GEO in these KSP systems is roughly 1/4 of the IRL GEO. So basically this formula will give you a decent approximation to scale IRL orbits to KSP (RealOrbit_km - 90km) * 0.25 + 90km = KSP equivalent orbit in terms of relative performance. Does this work for moon also or all planets/moons? guess just checking Edited May 8, 2022 by Adam-Kerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Adam-Kerman said: Does this work for moon also or all planets/moons? Its really meant for Earth/Kerbin and for relatively low orbits below GEO lets say. Once the orbit starts getting too high that atmosphere factor matters less and less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudgemountain Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) While waiting for a Phobos and Deimos lander to arrive on Mars, I saw that I had a launch window for Jupiter and decided to launch a probe to complete the Jupiter Flyby contract. Now I think of it I may have given it too much Delta V ^^;. Edited May 8, 2022 by Pudgemountain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotmachine Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 @Zorg@MashAndBangers@GoldForest Just letting you know that I just released KSPCommunityFixes 1.12.2, which should correctly handle the "Hokulani OCO-RT90 Truss Structure" skylab truss robotic part (as well as potentially other modded robotic parts). Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks all for reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gotmachine said: @Zorg@MashAndBangers@GoldForest Just letting you know that I just released KSPCommunityFixes 1.12.2, which should correctly handle the "Hokulani OCO-RT90 Truss Structure" skylab truss robotic part (as well as potentially other modded robotic parts). Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks all for reporting. Thanks! That was quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 37 minutes ago, Gotmachine said: @Zorg@MashAndBangers@GoldForest Just letting you know that I just released KSPCommunityFixes 1.12.2, which should correctly handle the "Hokulani OCO-RT90 Truss Structure" skylab truss robotic part (as well as potentially other modded robotic parts). Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks all for reporting. No, thank you for the fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I haven't had the BDB CD part since its introduction. Finally trying to figure out why. This info is after syncing with Github just now, including the new B9. My log file is in here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1gcxZbAhvv9m-KYKAkzQfDbELFThSQDqA?usp=sharing Here's all the mentions of the part extracted from the log file. Spoiler [LOG 10:00:17.345] Config(PART:NEEDS[ConformalDecals]) Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal/bluedog_conformalDecal [LOG 09:18:42.441] Applying update SigmaDimensions/Configs/ReDimension/rescaleAntennas/@PART:FOR[SigDim2] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:42.906] Applying update SigmaDimensions/Configs/ReDimension/rescaleSCANsat/@PART:FOR[SigDim2] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:51.027] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/Rescale/BlueSmurff/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:FOR[zzzBluedog_DB_1] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:53.271] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/B9PartSwitch/B9PartSwitchTanks/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]]:FOR[zzzBluedog_DB_9] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:53.455] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/Rescale/BlueSmurff/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:FOR[zzzBluedog_DB_9] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:53.976] Applying update B9PartSwitch/PartInfo/@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]]:FOR[zzzzzz-B9PartSwitch] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:54.202] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/RemoveRealNamesExtraFields/@PART[bluedog*]:LAST[Bluedog_DB] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:54.338] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/B9PartSwitch/UI_Groups/@PART[bluedog*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]]:Last[Bluedog_DB] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:54.563] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Patches/mass_patch/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:HAS[~PhysicsSignificance[1],#mass[<0.03]]:LAST[Bluedog_DB] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 10:00:55.664] PartLoader: Compiling Part 'Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal/bluedog_conformalDecal' [LOG 10:00:55.691] PartLoader: Part 'Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal/bluedog_conformalDecal' has no database record. Creating. Any help would be appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, OrbitalManeuvers said: I haven't had the BDB CD part since its introduction. Finally trying to figure out why. This info is after syncing with Github just now, including the new B9. My log file is in here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1gcxZbAhvv9m-KYKAkzQfDbELFThSQDqA?usp=sharing Here's all the mentions of the part extracted from the log file. Reveal hidden contents [LOG 10:00:17.345] Config(PART:NEEDS[ConformalDecals]) Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal/bluedog_conformalDecal [LOG 09:18:42.441] Applying update SigmaDimensions/Configs/ReDimension/rescaleAntennas/@PART:FOR[SigDim2] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:42.906] Applying update SigmaDimensions/Configs/ReDimension/rescaleSCANsat/@PART:FOR[SigDim2] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:51.027] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/Rescale/BlueSmurff/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:FOR[zzzBluedog_DB_1] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:53.271] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/B9PartSwitch/B9PartSwitchTanks/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]]:FOR[zzzBluedog_DB_9] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:53.455] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/Rescale/BlueSmurff/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:FOR[zzzBluedog_DB_9] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:53.976] Applying update B9PartSwitch/PartInfo/@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]]:FOR[zzzzzz-B9PartSwitch] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:54.202] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/RemoveRealNamesExtraFields/@PART[bluedog*]:LAST[Bluedog_DB] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:54.338] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/B9PartSwitch/UI_Groups/@PART[bluedog*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]]:Last[Bluedog_DB] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:54.563] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Patches/mass_patch/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:HAS[~PhysicsSignificance[1],#mass[<0.03]]:LAST[Bluedog_DB] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 10:00:55.664] PartLoader: Compiling Part 'Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal/bluedog_conformalDecal' [LOG 10:00:55.691] PartLoader: Part 'Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal/bluedog_conformalDecal' has no database record. Creating. Any help would be appreciated! They might not have the "decal" tag applied to them, but they show up when I search for "saturn". Try that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, GoldForest said: They might not have the "decal" tag applied to them, but they show up when I search for "saturn". Try that? The tags are in the cfg for the part. They are "bdb decal conformal saturn sarnus" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Just now, OrbitalManeuvers said: The tags are in the cfg for the part. They are "bdb decal conformal saturn sarnus" Hmmm. Strange, because I have them. How old is your CD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorg Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 hour ago, OrbitalManeuvers said: I haven't had the BDB CD part since its introduction. Finally trying to figure out why. This info is after syncing with Github just now, including the new B9. My log file is in here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1gcxZbAhvv9m-KYKAkzQfDbELFThSQDqA?usp=sharing Here's all the mentions of the part extracted from the log file. Reveal hidden contents [LOG 10:00:17.345] Config(PART:NEEDS[ConformalDecals]) Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal/bluedog_conformalDecal [LOG 09:18:42.441] Applying update SigmaDimensions/Configs/ReDimension/rescaleAntennas/@PART:FOR[SigDim2] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:42.906] Applying update SigmaDimensions/Configs/ReDimension/rescaleSCANsat/@PART:FOR[SigDim2] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:51.027] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/Rescale/BlueSmurff/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:FOR[zzzBluedog_DB_1] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:53.271] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/B9PartSwitch/B9PartSwitchTanks/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]]:FOR[zzzBluedog_DB_9] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:53.455] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/Rescale/BlueSmurff/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:FOR[zzzBluedog_DB_9] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:53.976] Applying update B9PartSwitch/PartInfo/@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]]:FOR[zzzzzz-B9PartSwitch] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:54.202] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/RemoveRealNamesExtraFields/@PART[bluedog*]:LAST[Bluedog_DB] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:54.338] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/B9PartSwitch/UI_Groups/@PART[bluedog*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleB9PartSwitch]]:Last[Bluedog_DB] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 09:18:54.563] Applying update Bluedog_DB/Patches/mass_patch/@PART[bluedog*,Bluedog*]:HAS[~PhysicsSignificance[1],#mass[<0.03]]:LAST[Bluedog_DB] to Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal.cfg/PART[bluedog_conformalDecal] [LOG 10:00:55.664] PartLoader: Compiling Part 'Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal/bluedog_conformalDecal' [LOG 10:00:55.691] PartLoader: Part 'Bluedog_DB/Compatibility/ConformalDecals/bluedog_conformalDecal/bluedog_conformalDecal' has no database record. Creating. Any help would be appreciated! I think it's probably because its missing a TechRequired field. Fixing that now (I guess it wasn't loading in career and or science) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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