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[1.12.5] Bluedog Design Bureau - Stockalike Saturn, Apollo, and more! (v1.14.0 "металл" 30/Sep/2024)


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I installed this mod for the first time this weekend. Wow!!!! I can't believe I've never used this mod before - It's amazing!

I have a quick question though. Can someone post a picture or explanation of how the GS series parts go together? Is the RV1 return capsule supposed to go into the recess hole in the ASD truss segment. Its seems like it should. Speaking of the RV1, is the parts order like so: heat shield; capsule; parachute; retro pack?

 

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  On 3/27/2021 at 4:38 PM, rextable said:

I installed this mod for the first time this weekend. Wow!!!! I can't believe I've never used this mod before - It's amazing!

I have a quick question though. Can someone post a picture or explanation of how the GS series parts go together? Is the RV1 return capsule supposed to go into the recess hole in the ASD truss segment. Its seems like it should. Speaking of the RV1, is the parts order like so: heat shield; capsule; parachute; retro pack?

 

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See here https://github.com/friznit/Unofficial-BDB-Wiki/wiki/Keyhole

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Hey everyone.  I am having a problem with a science return mission and maybe someone can help.  I built the Mariner 2 probe for a science transmit mission in JNSQ.   All of the other science experiments will transmit back to Kerbal except for the Microwave Spectrum data from the Mariner 2 Radiometer.  I can transfer the data to a science storage container without any problems, but trying to transmit the data results in it never reaching Kerbal.  

I am going to just cheat the contract to completion but has anyone else run into this problem?

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  On 3/27/2021 at 6:51 PM, IM_AM_SVEN said:

Hey everyone.  I am having a problem with a science return mission and maybe someone can help.  I built the Mariner 2 probe for a science transmit mission in JNSQ.   All of the other science experiments will transmit back to Kerbal except for the Microwave Spectrum data from the Mariner 2 Radiometer.  I can transfer the data to a science storage container without any problems, but trying to transmit the data results in it never reaching Kerbal.  

I am going to just cheat the contract to completion but has anyone else run into this problem?

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Is it failing to transmit at all or are you running out of ECs to transmit?

 

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  On 3/27/2021 at 6:56 PM, Pappystein said:

Is it failing to transmit at all or are you running out of ECs to transmit?

 

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It is failing to transmit.  Electrical power never drops below 190/200 on the craft.  The status text in the upper left displays that the science has 100% transmitted with no success.  I have three different antennas on the craft and have attempted transmission from all three with zero success.  I cheated a new copy of the craft into orbit to try.  thinking it may have been something with that particular part when it was created with no luck.  Tried moving the science to a science container first and then transmit it with no luck.  

Each time I get a message saying it was 100% transmitted however running the experiment again shows it is still available.  With my current mod loadout all of the other science (magnetometer, ion trap,  dust collector, and ir radiation) has transmitted successfully. 

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  On 3/27/2021 at 10:41 PM, Ollz said:

I was looking back at some of the Saturn/Apollo update pics and remembered reading something about different types of LM’s. I saw a habitat version, but I was wondering if you are planning on making an LSAM lander, as in the new season of for all Mankind, we have very good pictures of the LSAM. 

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I believe cobalt said some pages down that it's not likely, but your question got me wondering if, like you said, there will be any LM variants or not. I'm guessing only color variants?

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  On 3/27/2021 at 10:41 PM, Ollz said:

I was looking back at some of the Saturn/Apollo update pics and remembered reading something about different types of LM’s. I saw a habitat version, but I was wondering if you are planning on making an LSAM lander, as in the new season of for all Mankind, we have very good pictures of the LSAM.

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  On 3/28/2021 at 4:03 PM, space_powder said:

I believe cobalt said some pages down that it's not likely, but your question got me wondering if, like you said, there will be any LM variants or not. I'm guessing only color variants?

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No plans to do LSAM. Yeah, as I said a couple pages back, I don't watch FAM and I don't know how plausible the designs of the LSAM and Jamestown are from a performance perspective.

I'd like to do some LM variants, but won't promise any for the first release here. The old LM parts had a lot of issues, and couldn't really be used as a basis for variants. I'm trying to avoid that issue this time around.

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  On 3/28/2021 at 7:00 PM, CobaltWolf said:

No plans to do LSAM. Yeah, as I said a couple pages back, I don't watch FAM and I don't know how plausible the designs of the LSAM and Jamestown are from a performance perspective.

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I mean, when the main characters land on the Moon, they use a J-Class LEM to land in Shackleton via going from Equatorial to Polar Orbit. Plus there's one scene at the end of the series that kind of ticked me off knowing how orbital mechanics work. 

Plus, the LSAM, not as many good shots as I was hoping for. The show does have some decent to cool moments, but it's just (IMHO) avg. 

PS: @CobaltWolf out of curiosity, in the next version will you guys have @Beale's new IVAs?

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Dumb question, but the SCAN-23 "VS-11" module... Is that meant to be a KH-11 KENNEN in effect? If so, I'm having trouble making it "fit" on the KH-9 base, it's too small... And CactEye isn't scratching my hubble-alike itch, it's *massive*, barely fits in the shuttle bay let alone on a 34D. :(

 

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  On 3/29/2021 at 2:51 AM, Hachiro said:

Dumb question, but the SCAN-23 "VS-11" module... Is that meant to be a KH-11 KENNEN in effect? If so, I'm having trouble making it "fit" on the KH-9 base, it's too small... And CactEye isn't scratching my hubble-alike itch, it's *massive*, barely fits in the shuttle bay let alone on a 34D. :(

 

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Try the spectrometer telescope from Nertea’s space dust mod. It looks exactly like Hubble’s lens

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  On 3/29/2021 at 2:27 AM, Kerbal01 said:

I might be stupid but is the Gemini lander docking port not actually supposed to hard dock?

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last I knew the Gemini Lander docking port was 180 degrees off rotation (it could have been fixed, I haven't played with the Langley lander in a while.)   So make certain you are rotated the correct way when docking or weirdness can happen.

 

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Gemini Lunar Flyby (Titan LDC)

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  On 3/29/2021 at 2:51 AM, Hachiro said:

Dumb question, but the SCAN-23 "VS-11" module... Is that meant to be a KH-11 KENNEN in effect? If so, I'm having trouble making it "fit" on the KH-9 base, it's too small... And CactEye isn't scratching my hubble-alike itch, it's *massive*, barely fits in the shuttle bay let alone on a 34D. :(

 

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You might get better luck with Nertea's other parts to make a KH-11 facsmile - here's something I knocked up using ScanSat and Near Future parts to launch on the BDB Delta IV (I'm in career mode and haven't unlocked the round probes cores yet but you get the idea..)

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BDB Screenshot tax:

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@CobaltWolf

I have a suggestion/idea for the Sarnus family

The  Saturn family had more Generations:

1st Generation consisted of the Saturn 1/1B, Saturn III/IV, and the Saturn V

2nd Generation consisted of the MLV Saturn III/IV, MLV Saturn V-1, and the MLV Saturn V-23-L

2.5nd Generation consisted of the MLV Saturn V-3, MLV Saturn V-24-L, and the MLV Saturn V-26-L

3rd Generation consisted of the MLV Saturn III/IV-5, MLV Saturn V-5, MLV Saturn V-25-L, MLV Saturn V-27-L, and the MLV Saturn V-29-L

Maybe you could add them into BDB

Here is a Fandom page for more  info: KatnisssSpaceProgram Wiki | Fandom

(P.S: I do not have the intention of you copying Katniss.)

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  On 3/28/2021 at 8:27 PM, davidy12 said:

I mean, when the main characters land on the Moon, they use a J-Class LEM to land in Shackleton via going from Equatorial to Polar Orbit. Plus there's one scene at the end of the series that kind of ticked me off knowing how orbital mechanics work. 

Plus, the LSAM, not as many good shots as I was hoping for. The show does have some decent to cool moments, but it's just (IMHO) avg. 

PS: @CobaltWolf out of curiosity, in the next version will you guys have @Beale's new IVAs?

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Yeah. If I'm honest, I'm more interested in stuff that's based on the actual LM descent stage and stuff? That LSAM thing wouldn't fit in an SLA for one thing...

...Crap we forgot the IVAs.

 

  On 3/29/2021 at 2:27 AM, Kerbal01 said:

I might be stupid but is the Gemini lander docking port not actually supposed to hard dock?

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  On 3/29/2021 at 3:53 AM, Pappystein said:

last I knew the Gemini Lander docking port was 180 degrees off rotation (it could have been fixed, I haven't played with the Langley lander in a while.)   So make certain you are rotated the correct way when docking or weirdness can happen.

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Does it not? :/

 

  On 3/29/2021 at 2:51 AM, Hachiro said:

Dumb question, but the SCAN-23 "VS-11" module... Is that meant to be a KH-11 KENNEN in effect? If so, I'm having trouble making it "fit" on the KH-9 base, it's too small... And CactEye isn't scratching my hubble-alike itch, it's *massive*, barely fits in the shuttle bay let alone on a 34D. :(

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Isn't that a 2.5m module? I wouldn't expect it to fit, yeah. I don't think Nertea's parts are meant to be scaled properly, they're usually just clearly visually inspired by stuff.

 

  On 3/29/2021 at 4:43 PM, Naeth Kerman said:

@CobaltWolf

I have a suggestion/idea for the Sarnus family

The  Saturn family had more Generations:

~snip~

Here is a Fandom page for more  info: KatnisssSpaceProgram Wiki | Fandom

(P.S: I do not have the intention of you copying Katniss.)

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I believe those are almost all original designs that Katniss created. :)

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  On 3/28/2021 at 7:00 PM, CobaltWolf said:

No plans to do LSAM. Yeah, as I said a couple pages back, I don't watch FAM and I don't know how plausible the designs of the LSAM and Jamestown are from a performance perspective.

I'd like to do some LM variants, but won't promise any for the first release here. The old LM parts had a lot of issues, and couldn't really be used as a basis for variants. I'm trying to avoid that issue this time around.

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In terms of simple texture switches, I am pretty sure at minimum a silver foil variant would be quite simple to do, as once the gold foil texture is figured out, it can easily be modified to be silver.  Beyond that though I can't think of many variants for the LM.

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  On 3/29/2021 at 5:50 PM, CobaltWolf said:

...Crap we forgot the IVAs.

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  On 3/28/2021 at 8:27 PM, davidy12 said:


PS: @CobaltWolf out of curiosity, in the next version will you guys have @Beale's new IVAs?

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I always assumed they wouldn't make the 1.7.2 release :) Will take a bit of time to populate the interiors with props, possibly make a few new props etc. But the good thing is hopefully our new workflow for git should allow us to release more frequently as important content is added instead of waiting for a single big annual update.

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  On 3/29/2021 at 7:02 PM, Invaderchaos said:

In terms of simple texture switches, I am pretty sure at minimum a silver foil variant would be quite simple to do, as once the gold foil texture is figured out, it can easily be modified to be silver. 

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Sorry I was thinking like, LM Taxi, LM Truck and LM Shelter.

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