KSP Team Intercept Games Posted January 12 KSP Team Share Posted January 12 Heya Kerbonauts, Welcome back to another K.E.R.B. report - our first of 2024! We've processed A TON of bug reports from you all from over the holidays and, as you'll see, the top issues have changed dramatically. Some of these were on our radar already prior to the break so the team was quick to jump into working towards some (New Year) resolutions to these issues, while also investigating causes for issues found by you all! v0.2.1.0 is still coming together and we just want to warn that it's possible that some fixes mentioned here may not arrive in time - so they'd slip to v0.2.2.0+. We'll share an ETA with you all once we finalize the release. As always, thank you all for submitting your bug reports - and a massive shoutout to our Bug Hunters as well! KSP Team Community's Current Top Issues: # Bug Status 1 No trajectory lines in map view Partial fix being tested 2 Stage activation requires a double-click / double-spacebar pressing Fix implemented and verified 3 Incorrect "landed" status while in orbit causes trajectory to disappear in Map View Reproducible 4 Parts inside fairing heating up Fix in progress 5 Rovers are hitting a physics glitch every 1000m from the Location of Rover Being Loaded into the Game with Disastrous Results Improved, investigating long-term solutions 6 "Experiment" button shows available experiments even though the experiments have been done before Fix implemented and verified 7 Signals go through planets and moons (CommNet/Antennas not affected by occlusion) The current behavior is how it was designed. We will consider the feedback. 8 Upper atmospheres heat up and destroy parts far too quickly Tuning being tested 9 Landing gear blocked when it is not [also happens with other deployable parts] Unable to reliably reproduce 10 Illuminators (lights) do not function [Flicker/Blink for a second and turn off] Fix implemented and verified 11 SAS does not hold orientation during time warp Reproducible, investigating alternative solutions 12 Timewarp limit is too restrictive on some non-atmospheric planets (Gilly, Bop, Minmus...) Reproducible 13 Struts in higher symmetry than the parts they are attached to causes issues Investigating 14 Control Surface Oscillation in Atmosphere Reproducible 15 Parachutes didn't deploy Need more information 16 For the difficulty of the LIL CHONKER mission, 35 Science as a reward is too low Fix in progress 17 Inconsistent Framerate During Launch [Edit: The Video Shows a Gradual FPS drop as the Launch Continues] Need more information 18 Resource Manager (RM) disallows re-placement of a resource in the Transfer list of the RM, creating duplicates in the parts list of the RM Investigating 19 A Kerbal on EVA Exerts a Force upon the Vessel Reproducible 20 Orbit decay still happening [Landing legs or certain parts interacting can cause it] Fix implemented and verified Note: this report is not fully representative of the work our team is focused on. This is just to provide insight into our progress on the most concerning issues to our community. Additionally, the lack of a status update does not imply a lack of importance or general progress - we just do not have anything to share at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Dakota Posted January 12 Community Manager Share Posted January 12 omg wow look at that header. new year new kerb!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzysztof Jaromir Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 That header looks nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaRaptorTV Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 There is also an issue with fairings in the VAB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk9sp Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Awesome!!! Always love to see a new KERB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayel Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 like the new header, already has 140 views on imgur wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaypeg Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 ORBITAL DECAY FIXED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephensan Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) Signals go through planets and moons (CommNet/Antennas not affected by occlusion) the community just wants ComNet just like ksp 1, and if you want to make it more complex if you like.. non kerbal controlled builds are far far to easy, and it will slowly boil down to the features and mindset like Ksp 1 Comnet. Also, just like Surface Scanning to find the POI's without needing to use other people question to find it.. something like Orbital Survey, By Falki works just fine right now. just make it find POI's aswell. this includes what they just posted 2 hours ago.. its shockingly already exists in the game as a mod. i only somewhat dislike it uses parts vanilla but as a mod its perfectly ok.. its something sorely missing right now in ksp 2. i don't mind if its almost a drop in as of right now, but much prefer a actual new model(s) Edited January 13 by Stephensan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little 908 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jaypeg said: ORBITAL DECAY FIXED! I hope so, that has been bothering me a lot. Also, I'm not sure what the "Reproducible" status means on #12, but I hope it means its in progress. Thanks for the kerb. Edited January 13 by Little 908 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallius Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Of all the bugs. Parachutes not opening is the one that's causing me the most trouble at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Dakota Posted January 13 Community Manager Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Stephensan said: the community just wants ComNet just like ksp 1, and if you want to make it more complex if you like.. I'll just echo what @Nertea has said in the Discord about this: Quote Lots of the depth people would want requires a set of supporting visual and planning tools that are a fair bit of work to design and build .... I think I could say with some confidence that increasing commnet complexity has to come with more viz and planning tools and @Nate Simpson: Quote A lot of us like all the detailed line of sight/relay features in Commnet and it's definitely a thing we want to revisit, but as always we're having to balance multiple priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DibzNr Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Great work as always! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDCWolf Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Some good work in there. Just now, Little 908 said: I hope so, that has been bothering me a lot. Also, I'm not sure what the "Reproducible" status means on #12, but I hope it means its in progress. Thanks for the kerb. Means they've been able to reproduce the bug consistently in internal testing, which is kinda the first step to get it fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regex Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 34 minutes ago, Intercept Games said: 5 Rovers are hitting a physics glitch every 1000m from the Location of Rover Being Loaded into the Game with Disastrous Results Improved, investigating long-term solutions "Improved"? I think y'all really need to invest in that new terrain engine, especially if this is going to continue being "a thing". How about more torque (or torque parts) so we can build proper rock hounds too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandoesstuff Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 LETS GO THESE ARE SICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaypeg Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, regex said: "Improved"? I think y'all really need to invest in that new terrain engine, especially if this is going to continue being "a thing". How about more torque (or torque parts) so we can build proper rock hounds too? it seems to be caused by like 7 different things. Most likely means they fixed like 3-4 causes of it but some remain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradientOGames Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, regex said: I think y'all really need to invest in that new terrain engine, especially if this is going to continue being "a thing". It's likely to do with floating point imprecision with the wheel physics 3rd-party addon the devs are using. A good long term solution would simply be creating their own wheel system that is compatible with their terrain system's floating point origin shifts within local space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARL_Mk1 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dakota said: I'll just echo what @Nertea has said in the Discord about this: and @Nate Simpson: Just wanna say that remarks like these are appreciated Dakota. Some people don't go around Discord and the likes often and voicing dev's responses to doubts and questions over on the forums when people ask is valuable. Keep it up Edited January 13 by MARL_Mk1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Space Peacock Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 a KERB friday is always a good friday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aziz Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 39 minutes ago, Intercept Games said: 12 Timewarp limit is too restrictive on some non-atmospheric planets (Gilly, Bop, Minmus...) Too bad it only now got attention when I posted the very thing in Suggestions forum back in June. As for the parachutes not opening, probably needs more than one on the returning vessel, and I would guess as another step, be some stage switching mid-flight. Also, I would put the docking and loading issues a bit higher as these look a bit more severe and annoying (one requires save editing, the other is nearly a Kerbal killer) than, say, 35 points for a secondary mission. yes I read the red text this time, I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaypeg Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 22 minutes ago, The Aziz said: Too bad it only now got attention when I posted the very thing in Suggestions forum back in June. As for the parachutes not opening, probably needs more than one on the returning vessel, and I would guess as another step, be some stage switching mid-flight. Also, I would put the docking and loading issues a bit higher as these look a bit more severe and annoying (one requires save editing, the other is nearly a Kerbal killer) than, say, 35 points for a secondary mission. yes I read the red text this time, I know. community voting, i guess lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aziz Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) Aaaaalso 48 minutes ago, Dakota said: I think I could say with some confidence that increasing commnet complexity has to come with more viz and planning tools Quoting a quote didn't work but anyway - I'd say that the whole game needs some better visualization and planning tools (well seen in the latest weekly challenge - aside from active missions or leaving vessels on the surface next to the discoverables, there's no way to reliably find them other than eyeballing, which is a) tedious, and b) on larger bodies, pretty much impossible. I only found a discoverable on Gilly by accident, because I was orbiting slow and the structure-to-body size ratio made it easy. And I still only saw few darker pixels from orbit. At this point I don't know where the Kapy rock or Mun arch are even though I visited them, as they can't be tracked after mission completion or marked in any other way) Edited January 13 by The Aziz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaypeg Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, The Aziz said: Aaaaalso Quoting a quote didn't work but anyway - I'd say that the whole game needs some better visualization and planning tools (well seen in the latest weekly challenge - aside from active missions or leaving vessels on the surface next to the discoverables, there's no way to reliably find them other than eyeballing, which is a) tedious, and b) on larger bodies, pretty much impossible. I only found a discoverable on Gilly by accident, because I was orbiting slow and the structure-to-body size ratio made it easy. And I still only saw few darker pixels from orbit. At this point I don't know where the Kapy rock or Mun arch are even though I visited them, as they can't be tracked after mission completion or marked in any other way) I'd really like a marking system. Would be useful in multiplayer, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushylog Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Dakota said: omg wow look at that header. new year new kerb!! it's yellow I like yellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisShourai Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Dakota said: I'll just echo what @Nertea has said in the Discord about this: and @Nate Simpson: Personally I find it hilarious that a space sim game (it’s not just a rocket sim or you wouldn’t have a literal star system, and more coming up, AND colonies etc) that’s supposed to be an analogue of the physics of reality doesn’t want to design a basic system that the first game had and was loved by most of the community. By all means make it less complicated but of ALL the features to lament you lament the one thing that most of us keep asking for and are frustrated about and that’s some decent (at the most basic level) UI for us to understand exactly what is going on with all aspects of our ships. How do you possibly expect us to plan out an interstellar mission if you don’t want to bother spending time on UI development? If you’re dumbing it down so much by interstellar that I don’t have to actually plan a trip from the bottom up to hope to be successful in going to another system, let alone the edge of the Kerbolar system, and all I have to do is press a few buttons to ensure my engine starts and my landing legs deploy in 200 years, I’m gonna uninstall KSP2 and go play KSP1 with mods for the rest of my life (dramatic, I know, but I think it emphasized the point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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