[1.12.5] Bluedog Design Bureau - Stockalike Saturn, Apollo, and more! (v1.14.0 "металл" 30/Sep/2024)

[Taco Salad]

Since we have the F1-B, will we be getting the J2-X? Or along those lines, a BDB version of the RS-25. Maybe even some shuttle era parts like the SRBs. Not a full orbiter as SOCK and the like has that covered, but stuff such as an adapter for Shuttle to Skylab, or maybe even some more exotic concepts, such as shuttle external tank wetlabs. 

(Also A plain-white variant of the skylab/wetlab parts that blend in with the standard S-IVB tanks would be dope)

[Beccab]

43 minutes ago, Taco Salad said:

Since we have the F1-B, will we be getting the J2-X? Or along those lines, a BDB version of the RS-25. Maybe even some shuttle era parts like the SRBs. Not a full orbiter as SOCK and the like has that covered, but stuff such as an adapter for Shuttle to Skylab, or maybe even some more exotic concepts, such as shuttle external tank wetlabs. 

(Also A plain-white variant of the skylab/wetlab parts that blend in with the standard S-IVB tanks would be dope)

Despite the name, the J-2X has next to nothing in common with the J-2

Edited February 8, 2022 by Beccab

[Starhelperdude]

51 minutes ago, Taco Salad said:

Since we have the F1-B, will we be getting the J2-X? Or along those lines, a BDB version of the RS-25. Maybe even some shuttle era parts like the SRBs. Not a full orbiter as SOCK and the like has that covered, but stuff such as an adapter for Shuttle to Skylab, or maybe even some more exotic concepts, such as shuttle external tank wetlabs. 

(Also A plain-white variant of the skylab/wetlab parts that blend in with the standard S-IVB tanks would be dope)

RS-25 is already covered (or will be covered) by Rocket Motor Menagerie. The boosters are already covered by Photon corp. ET wetlabs are IMO unlikely since most shuttle stuff isn't really in BDB territory

[Zorg]

52 minutes ago, Taco Salad said:

Since we have the F1-B, will we be getting the J2-X? Or along those lines, a BDB version of the RS-25. Maybe even some shuttle era parts like the SRBs. Not a full orbiter as SOCK and the like has that covered, but stuff such as an adapter for Shuttle to Skylab, or maybe even some more exotic concepts, such as shuttle external tank wetlabs. 

(Also A plain-white variant of the skylab/wetlab parts that blend in with the standard S-IVB tanks would be dope)

We have no interest in shuttle derived parts as there are plenty of other mods that take care of this stuff brilliantly. 

Cobalt only did the F1B since its a direct derivative of an existing thing we have and he was able to reuse most of the powerhead. As mentioned above the J2X (constellation era) is a brand new engine that has little in common with the original J2.

For Rs25 you should look at what @EStreetRockets is doing with RMM

 

For shuttle to skylab adapter yes that indeed is planned for the next phase. We have benjees APAS 89/95 model and Invader is working on APAS 75 so you have a choice of docking port. The adapter will be coming along with the 25kw Power Module parts. So the extension to the MDA that you see there will be made with the power tower.

 

 

re: white skylab im not planning on that presently. Perhaps someone might do a variant eventually.

[Invaderchaos]

APAS 75 is fully modelled and textured. Just need to get it working.

[Invaderchaos]

Ok, an ALPHA version of the APAS 75 docking port is on github. Might be pretty buggy so use at your own risk. I have yet to finish the Soyuz specific variant for Tantares.

[Taaaa]

Hi! I want to see H-IIA and H-IIB! There are MOD for H-II, the ancestor of H-IIAB, but there are no good H-IIA, B ...
This isn't an American rocket but it would be very cool.

 

[Starhelperdude]

5 minutes ago, Taaaa said:

Hi! I want to see H-IIA and H-IIB! There are MOD for H-II, the ancestor of H-IIAB, but there are no good H-IIA, B ...
This isn't an American rocket but it would be very cool.

 

Japanese launchers aren't really in BDB territory

[Taaaa]

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10 minutes ago, Starhelperdude said:

Japanese launchers aren't really in BDB territory

 

The N-I, N-II, and H-I rockets, the predecessors of the H-II rocket, are based on the Delta rocket, so they are a little related.

[Starhelperdude]

11 minutes ago, Taaaa said:

The N-I, N-II, and H-I rockets, the predecessors of the H-II rocket, are based on the Delta rocket, so they are a little related.

I'm actually currently working on the 2nd stage engine for N-I, can't tell you the release date but work is beeing done

[Taaaa]

3 minutes ago, Starhelperdude said:

I'm actually currently working on the 2nd stage engine for N-I, can't tell you the release date but work is beeing done

Wow that's cool! can't wait for the release!

[GoldForest]

1 hour ago, Taaaa said:

Hi! I want to see H-IIA and H-IIB! There are MOD for H-II, the ancestor of H-IIAB, but there are no good H-IIA, B ...
This isn't an American rocket but it would be very cool.

You should look at @Beale 's mod. It adds the H-II and with BDB you can Jerry rig an A and B

[Cheesecake]

59 minutes ago, Taaaa said:

Hi! I want to see H-IIA and H-IIB! There are MOD for H-II, the ancestor of H-IIAB, but there are no good H-IIA, B ...
This isn't an American rocket but it would be very cool.

In Fuji-thread is a kitbash from @Zorg explained at page 1/2.

 

[Galileo chiu]

20 minutes ago, Cheesecake said:

In Fuji-thread is a kitbash from @Zorg explained at page 1/2.

 

Contares is way too out of date on the texture front

[Cheesecake]

22 minutes ago, Galileo chiu said:

Contares is way too out of date on the texture front

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But yes, it don`t fit in line of BDB, visually and size.

[Taaaa]

21 minutes ago, Galileo chiu said:

Contares is way too out of date on the texture front

This is why I asked here... 

There is no H-IIAB mod at good texture in KSP so far.

[Ares27]

On 2/6/2022 at 10:37 AM, Beccab said:

The Integrated Program Plan (1969)
Manned martian landing, part one


The IPP, and in particular Grenning's Maximum Program which this recreation follows, was a grandiose plan laid out by NASA as a follow up to Apollo spanning over 14 years; it includes, but isn't limited to, earth-to-orbit shuttles, nuclear shuttles, space bases with a crew of 50 people, permanent lunar outposts, 41 INT-21 launches and finally with humanity setting foot on mars as early as 1982 on which this post focuses on.

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This post focuses on the buildup to the mission, which sees involved two mars transfer vehicles, an earth-to-orbit shuttle, six nuclear shuttles and various INT-21 and space tugs (plus fuel depots and the space base) and covers everything up until TMI. The next post instead will cover the various phases between TMI and landing and the return to Earth

The first launch is the one of the Shuttle, for which I chose the Starclipper since at the time it was the prevalent design apparently (like the one below) and appears in most official IPP artworks. However, if congress really proceeded with the funding requested for these plans NASA probably would have gone with one of the many fully reusable shuttle designs that were being made, for obvious reasons.


 

The Earth-to-orbit Shuttle now approact to the space base. It is a very large space station with a permanent crew between 50 and 100, constructed in three INT-21 launches during the late 70s with S-II sized modules plus various shuttles and includes a workshop to repair satellites, both space-facing and earth-facing instruments and artificial gravity. It is based on Robert Gilruth's "million pound" space station design of 1968 shown below
 

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Here is a showcase of the artificial gravity, since I have no idea how to embed a gif or mp4
https://i.imgur.com/X9ViDGV.mp4

Docking:

Now it's time for the launch of the Planetary Mission Module and the Mars Excursion Module combined on an uprated INT-21, as well as the various probes used in the mission. The launch also reaches the space base for checkouts and crew transfer from the Starclipper shuttle

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and Space Tug-assisted docking next to the Starclipper of both this spacecraft and an identical one launched soon after

Time for the Reusable Nuclear Shuttle!

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Of the various designs that were studied by Rockwell I went for the hybrid configuration with the tank launched upside down and the NERVA launched on the Shuttle separately, partially because that seems to be the configuration that appears most frequently on IPP drawings from the 70s

Due to weight constrains, the RNS is launched with tanks only half filled; not even the power of an INT-21 could lift it to orbit otherwise. Because of this, its next step is making a tug-assisted docking at one of the many fuel depots in LEO; for this I took a Douglas concept that is a little older and updated it to be more realistic with radiators, solar panels and coolant. This one also features what was supposed to be the main role of the Shuttle at the time, which is to transport fuel to orbital stations and hydrolox space tugs.

The second part, instead, shows the NERVA engine that was carried to orbit on a Shuttle being mated to its tank to complete the RNS assembly

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It's time for the final assembly: the interplanetary spacecrafts undocks from the space base together with a space tug and meets with three RNS each; two of those were launched specifically for this mission, while the other 4 were already in orbit for transportation to lunar orbit and to the GEO space station.

Now that that the twin spacecrafts have been assembled and the final checkouts completed, the clock has started: the two lateral NERVA engines ignite at the same time, launching 12 brave people on a trans-martian injection, and...

Well, you'll see next week!

That's one of the coolest things I've ever seen on this forum, you got a new follower 

Erm...Can you share your modlist and the starclipper .craft file?

 

[Galileo chiu]

21 minutes ago, Taaaa said:

This is why I asked here... 

There is no H-IIAB mod at good texture in KSP so far.

yeah someone needs to make one, and I'm not that someone, I don't know how to mod.

[Cdodders]

8 hours ago, Zorg said:

We have no interest in shuttle derived parts as there are plenty of other mods that take care of this stuff brilliantly. 

Cobalt only did the F1B since its a direct derivative of an existing thing we have and he was able to reuse most of the powerhead. As mentioned above the J2X (constellation era) is a brand new engine that has little in common with the original J2.

For Rs25 you should look at what @EStreetRockets is doing with RMM

 

For shuttle to skylab adapter yes that indeed is planned for the next phase. We have benjees APAS 89/95 model and Invader is working on APAS 75 so you have a choice of docking port. The adapter will be coming along with the 25kw Power Module parts. So the extension to the MDA that you see there will be made with the power tower.

 

 

re: white skylab im not planning on that presently. Perhaps someone might do a variant eventually.

What about a Saturn-Shuttle adaptor section, or at least Saturn-EFT adaptor?

 

[GoldForest]

1 hour ago, Taaaa said:

This is why I asked here... 

There is no H-IIAB mod at good texture in KSP so far.

GemstoneLV by Beale is pretty good.

[Starhelperdude]

Just now, GoldForest said:

GemstoneLV by Beale is pretty good.

it covers H-II, not H-IIA/B

but let's not get off-topic

[Nobumon]

When I launch a probe that has solar panels on it the electric charge goes to 0. A quick google search found this when but I have no idea what this means. githubDOTcom/sswelm/KSP-Interstellar-Extended/issues/547

[OrbitalManeuvers]

Couple questions:

1. In light of the J2/J2X discussion, what is the "Sarnus-HE2JX-447 Dnoces-X" aiming for?

2. Is anyone using the CoM offset feature of the Apollo CM? Idk how well KSP allows something like this to work, but are you guys messing with your EDL trajectory using this? If so, when?

[Galileo chiu]

7 minutes ago, OrbitalManeuvers said:

Couple questions:

1. In light of the J2/J2X discussion, what is the "Sarnus-HE2JX-447 Dnoces-X" aiming for?

2. Is anyone using the CoM offset feature of the Apollo CM? Idk how well KSP allows something like this to work, but are you guys messing with your EDL trajectory using this? If so, when?

1: it's the J2X

2: Yes, it's used during reentry to gain a bit of lift/drag

[KeaKaka]

1 hour ago, OrbitalManeuvers said:

1. In light of the J2/J2X discussion, what is the "Sarnus-HE2JX-447 Dnoces-X" aiming for?

On 11/9/2021 at 11:24 AM, Pappystein said:

J-2X "Airmat"  What is in BDB a flexible curtain that could fold up and would expand when the turbopump exhaust was ejected into it.