Poodmund Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 12:03 AM, nestor said: We are currently taking a look. Expand It's almost as if the consumers are acting as the frontline QA Team a few days after a release is dropped. I hope that this does not set a precedent and this kind of thing is yet another strong argument for opt-in, public, pre-release versions that used to happen with Kerbal Space Program. It's always confused me as to why the decision was made to stop this way of letting the most involved community help SQUAD identify bugs so that the rest of the player base can have a smoother transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceemiller Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 We'll I for one am enjoying 1.5.... Fresh install and no mods it did seem like a performance drop however a quick defrag and optimise sorted that out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakthesystem Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 This is wonderful and I can't wait to try it out. One thing, do I see a strong planet shine in the promotional image? I assume that's not in the actual game graphics, even though I'd loooove if it were there :D~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassel Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 For me performance isn't worse... basically, the graphics card after few minutes of playing has a lower temperature than in 1.4.5, so something has been improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klgraham1013 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 7:24 AM, Cassel said: If I had to guess I would blame "While staying true to the game’s original essence, the geometry and texture maps of these parts were completely redone." Expand KSP doesn't use geometry to calculate drag. Each part is given a drag number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VITAS Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Shiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klgraham1013 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 7:30 AM, Poodmund said: I hope that this does not set a precedent... Expand You were here for 1.4. The precedent has already been set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lajoswinkler Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 9:06 AM, breakthesystem said: This is wonderful and I can't wait to try it out. One thing, do I see a strong planet shine in the promotional image? I assume that's not in the actual game graphics, even though I'd loooove if it were there :D~ Expand I wouldn't rely on promotional images at all. They're always made to look neat, and it's something that happens with almost all games. They even use mods to make the game look pretty, something I find controversial. I was playing it when the update notification came up so, after exiting, I quickly set the version to 1.4.5 and avoided the update. As much as I like the new look of some parts (new Mk1 is superb and is directly influenced by Porkjet's Part Overhaul, which engines I use instead of stock ones), I like playing it more, and I use quite a lot of plugins, so... I'll wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodriguez Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 @JPLRepo I'm having some issues after testing BDA with KSP 1.5 I have created a thread here. I would need someone from KSP dev team to take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 5:52 AM, Gaba_Kerman said: Why did they take out the uncovered 2.5 m tanks? Expand Not sure which parts you are talking about here? On 10/16/2018 at 11:15 AM, klgraham1013 said: KSP doesn't use geometry to calculate drag. Each part is given a drag number. Expand Partially incorrect Drag cubes are calculated off of the mesh. So a change in the mesh will result in a change to the drag cube. We override these in certain cases (like decouplers and other hollow parts), but the starting line is always the numbers generated off of the mesh itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafni Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 1:55 PM, RoverDude said: Partially incorrect Drag cubes are calculated off of the mesh. So a change in the mesh will result in a change to the drag cube. We override these in certain cases (like decouplers and other hollow parts), but the starting line is always the numbers generated off of the mesh itself. Expand That's interesting. Thanks for the insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowmage Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 9:06 AM, breakthesystem said: I assume that's not in the actual game graphics, even though I'd loooove if it were there :D~ Expand Apparently, no, the stock systems do not support flight-scene reflections. You can use TexturesUnlimited though for the reflections (when it is updated/released), which works with the stock shaders, and -does- have flight-scene reflections (dx9 still hates cubemap blurring however.... so there are issues unless you use openGL/dx11 -- I suspect this is why KSP currently does not support flight-scene reflections, as they use dx9 by default) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechBFP Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Well that certainly explains why my rockets were rotating randomly for no obvious reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrocutor Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) On 10/16/2018 at 7:14 AM, TriggerAu said: Glad your liking em, the art guys will be glad to hear it Expand Please let them know how much this is appreciated; I'm very glad to see the older parts getting some attention such that all the parts are now moving toward a common color and design theme. Edited October 16, 2018 by Electrocutor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snark Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 3:27 AM, 5thHorseman said: What trickery is this? My Steam KSP folder has these 2 EXEs: 07/21/2018 03:03 AM 23,488,000 KSP_x64.exe 10/15/2018 05:54 PM 23,488,000 Launcher.exe I can see maybe if they changed Steam to run "Launcher.exe" or something (or for all I know Steam's been running Launcher.exe all this time) but when I manually run ksp_x64.exe, it runs version 1.5. And when it's running with the 1.5 version in the lower right corner, taskmgr says I'm running ksp_x64.exe So either 1.5 has been ready since July or ... ? Expand Bear in mind that "KSP 1.5" is a whole lot more than just the actual executable itself. An awful lot of the guts of KSP are not in the .exe, but rather are in the "Assembly-CSharp.dll" that lives down in the "managed" folder. And of course, there are lots of "assets" under GameData/Squad, e.g. models, textures, config files, etc. None of that stuff is part of the .exe. It may very well be that changes to the executable itself might have been finished back in July, and what they were working on since then has been the other file assets (models, textures, config) and the code that lives in the DLL. No way to know for sure, of course, since we don't work at Squad and don't know their internal development processes, but that seems like a plausible guess to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleshJeb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 12:03 PM, klgraham1013 said: You were here for 1.4. The precedent has already been set. Expand I just installed 1.4.5 last week, so I could swap craft with a buddy. I was really looking forward to a solid QA job on this release, and was planning on finally purchasing MH to show support for the new and improved development process that's been showing in the weeklies. This morning, I'm sorely tempted to delete 1.4.5 and go back to my multiple 1.3.1 installs. In addition, I'm wondering how much money I have to bribe all the major modders with before I can get them to refuse to update mods beyond Last Known Good Version. If I quit smoking, that's $200/month. I'm taking a break from the forums, because that's irrational thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikki Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) I... I love KSP And SO SHINY! Edited October 16, 2018 by Mikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoToH Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 10:08 PM, Black-Two- said: As the creator of that thread, I don't have that problem anymore. It disappeared in either 1.4.4 or 1.4.5. Expand That's the info I wanted to read!!! Now I just have to wait for mods to update. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klgraham1013 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 4:04 PM, FleshJeb said: I'm wondering how much money I have to bribe all the major modders with before I can get them to refuse to update mods beyond Last Known Good Version. Expand I've seriously thought the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Define the "Last Known Good Version", different people have different views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catatau_27 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Honestly, the biggest problem is not getting a new version and damaging all users and forcing all mod makers to upgrade their projects, the real KSP problem is the lack of a definitive version of the game compared to Star Citizen, least we KSP players are at an advantage, but this is not so great. The question is: When will we have a definitive version of the game so that from it it is possible to create any mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klgraham1013 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 5:26 PM, linuxgurugamer said: Define the "Last Known Good Version", different people have different views Expand This is why I've been an advocate for Squad finishing the game. It gives all modders a solid, unchanging foundation to create from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 5:34 PM, Catatau_27 said: The question is: When will we have a definitive version of the game so that from it it is possible to create any mod? Expand Probably never. The development model used by KSP is more as Operating System than a shelve product. You can't have the cake and eat it too. You want a Star Citizens development model? It came with a Star Citizens pricing model attached. :-) What I do is to stick with a Version the most I can. I know people considering migrating from 1.3.1 just now. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klgraham1013 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 5:44 PM, Lisias said: The development model used by KSP is more as Operating System than a shelve product. Expand Windows doesn't break all my programs when it updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisias Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) On 10/16/2018 at 5:51 PM, klgraham1013 said: Windows doesn't break all my programs when it updates. Expand From which Galaxy are you from? https://www.easeus.com/data-recovery/restore-lost-documents-after-windows-10-forced-update.html Long time Windows user here. Every major Windows update broke half my productivity tools. I'm now (for while at least) a MacOS user. Let me tell you something: it's even worse. Edited October 16, 2018 by Lisias Whoopsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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