Gargamel Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, NovaRaptorTV said: How much would it cost to set up a new forum page? Or try to move everything to a community ran discord so mods don't get lost forever? Please see this thread for this discussion: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BechMeister Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 22 hours ago, DeadJohn said: A forum was the best (only?) way for the modding community to thrive. Sure.. but fx my alliance in eve ditched their forum and uses discords archive function. Its just not the same though.. 17 hours ago, ColdJ said: There are mods out there to change all of that. Thats odd i heard people say that the only thing you could not fix on ksp1 is the UI 14 hours ago, xD-FireStriker said: You should really get KSP1, its a feature complate version of KSP2. Runs better, so many mods to enhance the experience. Yeah i know... this might sound a bit weird.. but i think the fact that KSP2 launched feature barren was what allowed me to get into it. I have tried KSP1 earlier... but I was a bit overwhelmed by all the options and pathways you can take. But I think im good enough in KSP2 now that KSP1 would not be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superzpmax Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 On 7/7/2024 at 6:18 PM, dandoesstuff said: AS IF IT COULDNT GET ANY WORSE NOOOOO!!!! we need to archive the forums, fast, or create some sort of new one run by the community, doesn't matter yeah, if the forums get lost KSP is most likely gonna get forgotten in the next few years, so yeah I'm pretty sure its gonna be hard to archive it, probably creating a new forum will be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoCalories Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, superzpmax said: I'm pretty sure its gonna be hard to archive it, probably creating a new forum will be better? But there's so much Forum history... We just got 5000 floors on Really, Really, Really Tall Building... I hope there is some kind of alternative to the forums created. It's a difficult task for sure, but at least there'll be an alternative that the future of isn't just up in the air because of uncaring corporate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargamel Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 3 hours ago, Gargamel said: Please see this thread for this discussion: It’s like 4 posts up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodmund Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Seeing the start of the forum reorder was a very pleasant surprise today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylsh Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, Poodmund said: Seeing the start of the forum reorder was a very pleasant surprise today! I saw that too. I immediately felt it was a sign of good things. But I remain skeptical. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wreckreation Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 On 7/7/2024 at 2:58 PM, dprostock said: T2 had too much patience with all the failures. To be fair, T2 stipulated conditions that made it very difficult for the development team to succeed. Not saying the dev team is entirely blameless, but T2 did put them in a bind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagnus1 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, wreckreation said: To be fair, T2 stipulated conditions that made it very difficult for the development team to succeed. Not saying the dev team is entirely blameless, but T2 did put them in a bind. IMO Paradox would have been a FAR better publisher for KSP2 than T2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izny Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, almagnus1 said: IMO Paradox would have been a FAR better publisher for KSP2 than T2 Jester points for you . We'd be looking at paid DLC for the parts that were ready at launch, which would have been dripfed over a couple years. I'll chip in too: Bethesda should have made ksp2! And Electronic Arts should have published it, as an Epic store exclusive Edited July 11 by Izny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Let's not get too far off topic now, lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebel-1 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Here, a completely different kind of forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandoesstuff Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 15 hours ago, superzpmax said: I'm pretty sure its gonna be hard to archive it, probably creating a new forum will be better? a new forum would be better but archiving the old one would be nice, just so we can download some mods that arent on spacedock and stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garwel Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 7 hours ago, almagnus1 said: IMO Paradox would have been a FAR better publisher for KSP2 than T2 I actually first heard of KSP about a decade ago from one Paradox dev quipping on their forum that he would make KSP better. That said, PDS develops very good grand strategies, but their titles developed by other companies... let's say they are not all created equal. So I'm not sure they'd handle a unique game like KSP well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenartia Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 8 minutes ago, garwel said: I actually first heard of KSP about a decade ago from one Paradox dev quipping on their forum that he would make KSP better. That said, PDS develops very good grand strategies, but their titles developed by other companies... let's say they are not all created equal. So I'm not sure they'd handle a unique game like KSP well. I think the implication was more "PDX should've bought Squad instead of T2" instead of "PDX should've bought the IP from T2". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzlebop Smith Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 10 hours ago, wreckreation said: To be fair, T2 stipulated conditions that made it very difficult for the development team to succeed. Not saying the dev team is entirely blameless, but T2 did put them in a bind. I'm assuming this comes from Take Two canceling the KSP2 contract with star theory & outright hiring developers from start theory. While it makes sense from a corporate espionage perspective, I am wondering where evidence of this mandate was presented. I am not disputing it, just would like to see more than shadowzone claiming there a Restriction & HarvestR confirming that no one reached out. I do feel those immersion element removed were likely due to focus groups wanting to make the game more viable to the general masses. I just want to know if commnet was a hardware limitation due to physics load of relay networks or a conscious choice to "dumb down" the game. Why not make this an option that is toggleable? I (like everyone) just yearn for more info to consume on the matter... but all I can find is regurgitation of old news. Like the mysterious cancelled game that take two will be remaking. Aside from a half hearted mention in one of the gamerant articles I cannot find much. A single line or two at most. Damn stock fluctuations messing with information flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargamel Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 This thread is about the forums, take other discussions elsewhere please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 On 7/10/2024 at 2:33 AM, RocketPilot573 said: I used to be part of a SimCity 4 forum called Simtropolis. I still support them about once a quarter. I am thinking about sharing my SC4 city there, too. They even have a Cities: Skylines subforum now. Ideally, if the community were to do something like this for KSP, it is the model that needs to be followed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cydonian Monk Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 I feel for you lot. Moderating a forum like this is no easy feat, especially when you have no idea if it'll be around tomorrow. Y'all have done a great job over the years keeping it going. Thanks for all the years of dedication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacke Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 On 7/8/2024 at 9:13 AM, Vexillar said: In case the Forum does disappear without warning, we'll need a way to get news out to all the folk on here about any attempts to regroup. The obvious route for that (just to say it our loud) is for the well-known YouTubers to put out the details. (Apologies for volunteering you guys, so I won't name-check anyone in particular ) I agree that a traditional web forum is best for KSP and its many discussions, mods, and challenges. There can be a lot of arguments made one way or another about why TTI will keep this forum or why TTI will shut this forum down. I note that is very similar to discussion that happened earlier about KSP2--and we all know what happened there. We can't guarantee this forum will continue. But if this forum still exists, it complicates things for any new KSP Community forum. (Although if it is started, I'll make an account there.) But if this forum goes away without warning, we will want a KSP Community forum to replace it. That means there's a bit of a dilemma. I suggest the following as the solution. If these forums are shut down without warning, I would suggest checking KSP oriented Discords and the KSP subreddit for information on a KSP Community driven replacement forum. There are people in the KSP community who will do that. And we'll all move there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaffre Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Well this is infuriating. I'm glad to see that some efforts at preservation and community fallbacks are being made courtesy of the other thread. I hope this place gets to stick around, I had to live with the practical death of the Minecraft forums and that was difficult on myself personally and watching the splintering effect it had on the community. Reddit and Discord are no places to have sustained discussion or community in the way that forums can. It's already been said but I'll second props to the forum staff here, some of you have stuck around for a long time and not getting paid for dealing with drama and laying out the rules is going to grind on you at least a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheehaw Kerman Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 On 7/8/2024 at 1:41 AM, Brotoro said: @Ultimate Steve My mission report site is just something I made with basic HTML and posted on whatever server I had access to at the time, posting mission reports in parallel with posting them on the KSP Forums. The content has been moved to a couple different servers over the years and is currently on my brotoro.com/ksp website. I'll be sad if the KSP Forums disappear, since not everything I posted is on my site (only the mission reports). I haven't been playing KSP for several years now, but I still hang out in the Science & Spaceflight forum here. In case the Forums do vanish, I would just like to say that it has been a pleasure posting with all you fine people. Per aspera ad astra! I’d like to say thanks for your Long Term Laythe series. I enjoyed it immensely, learned a ton from it, and have revisited it several times over the years. Great stuff. Hopefully the forums will be here for a while yet, but in the event that they do disappear, to the mods and everyone, so long, and thanks for all the fish. It’s been a real pleasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HebaruSan Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 5 minutes ago, Wheehaw Kerman said: I’d like to say thanks for your Long Term Laythe series. I enjoyed it immensely, learned a ton from it, and have revisited it several times over the years. Great stuff. Same. To this day, I am following @Brotoroon the forum on the off chance that that series starts up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izny Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Organization: Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Street: 110 W 44th St. City: New York State: NY Postal Code: 10036 Country: US Phone: +1.6465362842 Fax: +1.6465362926 Maybe we should just call em and ask? All of us. every day. all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonelykermit Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 6 hours ago, Izny said: Organization: Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Street: 110 W 44th St. City: New York State: NY Postal Code: 10036 Country: US Phone: +1.6465362842 Fax: +1.6465362926 Maybe we should just call em and ask? All of us. every day. all day. Honestly I just think this will make our community look really bad to them/their investors. At that point they may actually shut down the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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