Alexoff Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Wow, incredible, we will be able to look through the glass at the kerbals?! Yes, it's just like in KSP1! Breathtaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Alexoff said: Wow, incredible, we will be able to look through the glass at the kerbals?! Yes, it's just like in KSP1! Breathtaking! "just like in KSP1" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aziz Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Alexoff said: Wow, incredible, we will be able to look through the glass at the kerbals?! Yes, it's just like in KSP1! Breathtaking! Oh yes, very much like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razark Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, PD_Dakota said: c'mon they're not terrified, they're having a blast! "Having a blast" is what they're terrified of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu225 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, The Aziz said: Oh yes, very much like it Wow, looking at this @Alexoffis absolutely right. No idea why they even bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephensan Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, dok_377 said: Finally, something that actually looks like a game. Still don't feel great about old parts without revamps from the first game, but hey, at least it's something. the most important part is not really the exterior, they are pretty good, its the IVA that can/could come.. a remaster of that completely changes how the game plays/feels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dok_377 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Stephensan said: the most important part is not really the exterior, they are pretty good, its the IVA that can/could come.. a remaster of that completely changes how the game plays/feels. I wasn't necessarily talking about the capsule, but yeah. The best thing here is the interior and exterior being one seamless part and not a weird transparent overlay from the first game. That alone, even without an interior revamp, is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexoff Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Aziz said: Oh yes, very much like it Yes, I'm wrong, in fact, in my video from 2017, a fake and a provocation Edited February 9, 2023 by Alexoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astr0Guy5 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 59 minutes ago, PD_Dakota said: That. is. gorgeous. This is the perfect blend of what we've seen so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbart Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, razark said: "Having a blast" is what they're terrified of. "Jeb, what goes trough your mind at launch?" "Hopefully not the T-800 fuel tank" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aziz Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, Alexoff said: Yes, I'm wrong, in fact, in my video from 2017, a fake and a provocation Oh yes because it's the default setting (as you show 5 seconds later) and works only for windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 57 minutes ago, Alexoff said: Yes, I'm wrong, in fact, in my video from 2017, a fake and a provocation This was a feature tacked on late into the game's development, and removes the glass instead of giving it transparency and interesting visual properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXIndestructibleEVAXx Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bej Kerman said: This was a feature tacked on late into the game's development, and removes the glass instead of giving it transparency and interesting visual properties. Not to mention it also makes cutaways in areas other than windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, xXIndestructibleEVAXx said: Not to mention it also makes cutaways in areas other than windows Oh yeah. I know but I wasn't confident enough in my memory to make that call. Windows don't let light pass through bits of your house that don't have windows, so again, "just like KSP 1" as they said earlier is a fallacious claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i dont know how to forum Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Alexoff said: Yes, I'm wrong, in fact, in my video from 2017, a fake and a provocation In addition to what was already mentioned, KSP1's interior overlay is a very hacky solution. It's literally an overlay, the "windows" render on top of everything else. You can have a bunch of parts in front of the window and the interior will still render over all of it. This also means you can't look in one window and back out another. It was a fun little hacky thing built on top of the existing parts; in KSP2 it's modeled into the parts themselves. Consider also the following (timestamped): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexoff Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, The Aziz said: Oh yes because it's the default setting (as you show 5 seconds later) and works only for windows What an incredible leap forward! How little people need to be happy! 41 minutes ago, i dont know how to forum said: In addition to what was already mentioned, KSP1's interior overlay is a very hacky solution. And in KSP2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bej Kerman Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alexoff said: 1 hour ago, The Aziz said: Oh yes because it's the default setting (as you show 5 seconds later) and works only for windows What an incredible leap forward! How little people need to be happy! Not to mention in KSP 1 being able to see through a window that's behind a fuel tank. Yes, we like our games to not look terrible. The physically impossible windows you use happily look terrible. 3 minutes ago, Alexoff said: 48 minutes ago, i dont know how to forum said: In addition to what was already mentioned, KSP1's interior overlay is a very hacky solution. And in KSP2? And in KSP 2 it's a not-so-hacky solution that doesn't punch holes in your fuel tank so you can see the Kerbals behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i dont know how to forum Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alexoff said: And in KSP2? As I said, in KSP2 it's built into the parts themselves. The issues I mentioned with KSP1's interior overlay no longer exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cytauri Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Alexoff said: Is it high resolution, new screenshot and new build? The screenshot looks so perfect, like it's not KSP2, but at least KSP12! Please nerf it, otherwise my 3070 won't be able to work! You can see a noticeable progress compared to the pre-alpha, right, guys? Not meaning to be a stickler, but in the Pre-Alpha Capture, you can see PBR and some nice scatter. Now, as Ghostii has said in the discord, the Beta image is most likely a picture that one of the devs had on hand from a test and decided to post it. I do hope the Beta image is on a low setting though. Great job on the image of the rocket and clouds Dakota! The Kerbals look so excited and in horror at the same time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1mo98 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 17 hours ago, i dont know how to forum said: In addition to what was already mentioned, KSP1's interior overlay is a very hacky solution. It's literally an overlay, the "windows" render on top of everything else. You can have a bunch of parts in front of the window and the interior will still render over all of it. This also means you can't look in one window and back out another. It was a fun little hacky thing built on top of the existing parts; in KSP2 it's modeled into the parts themselves. Consider also the following (timestamped): Wow, I haven't seen this clip before. That looks amazing! Seeing their little (big) heads bob around like that is going to be so much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargamel Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Some posts have been removed. Let’s not get personal folks. If you have an issue with a post, report it, let the mods handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snkiz Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 19 hours ago, The Aziz said: Oh yes, very much like it There's a button to turn the windows transparent. The issue then was what that does is render the IVA through cutouts in the model. This is why it made sense to make that optional. That's a whole other model and textures to load, that you aren't even looking at a lot of the time. The new windows look great, but if I need those 10fps that costs then I'd like the option to turn it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aziz Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, snkiz said: The new windows look great, but if I need those 10fps that costs then I'd like the option to turn it off. I highly doubt the transparent windows have any effect on performance. It's not 2011 anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snkiz Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 hence the word IF. it's all speculation at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicTech Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 20 hours ago, Stephensan said: *monkey and ape getting riled up with screaming* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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